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Let me preface this by saying no ghoster has ever killed me.. I'm not that stupid.. if I engage with another player and they combat log, I don't stay in the same area.

 

It is very sad to see the number of people who brag about server hopping and ghosting behind players to get kills.

This is an alpha phase of the game and using a known exploit over and over again just because it hasn't been removed yet is so juvenile.

It is very sad to see the lack of honor displayed by some.  It comes down to a mentality that it's ok to cheat if you don't get caught..

 

When players lack the skill required to play games, they rely on cheats and exploits to level the playing field.

 

Usually in most Alpha/Beta phases of game development and testing, if people continue to use exploits, they are banned...

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There are ways to stop this but everytime someone comes up with these ways alot of people cry about it, so i think these exploits will always be in the game while rocket listens to the vocal minority of Dayz fans..

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Let me preface this by saying no ghoster has ever killed me.. I'm not that stupid.. if I engage with another player and they combat log, I don't stay in the same area.

 

It is very sad to see the number of people who brag about server hopping and ghosting behind players to get kills.

This is an alpha phase of the game and using a known exploit over and over again just because it hasn't been removed yet is so juvenile.

It is very sad to see the lack of honor displayed by some.  It comes down to a mentality that it's ok to cheat if you don't get caught..

 

When players lack the skill required to play games, they rely on cheats and exploits to level the playing field.

 

Usually in most Alpha/Beta phases of game development and testing, if people continue to use exploits, they are banned...

Wow if only there was a built in function that this forum provided where users could search for similar posts.  Surely there haven't been around 1000 of threads with similar topics / ideas in mind. Surely the devs need another thread, just in case, about the same topic discussed over 1000 times. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Wow if only there was a built in function that this forum provided where users could search for similar posts.  Surely there haven't been around 1000 of threads with similar topics / ideas in mind. Surely the devs need another thread, just in case, about the same topic discussed over 1000 times. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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If only I cared...  owait i don't

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There are ways to stop this but everytime someone comes up with these ways alot of people cry about it, so i think these exploits will always be in the game while rocket listens to the vocal minority of Dayz fans..

Actually, i just thought of a rather simple script that could run in a public hive to stop ghosters.  Since the database knows your current location and you server (IP), there could be a script that if a player leaves one server and logs into another server.. moves a distance, them comes back to a previous server, the player could be rendered unconscious.

There could be a minimum distance a player would need to travel before it would be turned off.  Say like 1km.

Just an idea..

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Actually, i just thought of a rather simple script that could run in a public hive to stop ghosters.  Since the database knows your current location and you server (IP), there could be a script that if a player leaves one server and logs into another server.. moves a distance, them comes back to a previous server, the player could be rendered unconscious.

There could be a minimum distance a player would need to travel before it would be turned off.  Say like 1km.

Just an idea..

How about no. It would be better to use a log out timer (roughly 5-10seconds) and then if you join a new server then rejoin the old one you have an additional timer for maybe up to a few minutes for trying to server hop

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If only I cared...  owait i don't

You probably should care.  Read the forum rules and the several sticky posts on using the search function.  Instead we have fuckwits forum-noobs who create 1000s of useless threads that all have the same topic and discussion as the last 999 threads about the same thing.

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The only time i "server hop" (not sure if it would even technically be called that in the scenario im about to say) is when i have just joined a server and start taking fire before ive even had a chance to get my barrings. Then i exit out and join a different server. I.E. I decided to log off to go to work the other day and i logged off near the edge of the woods near the balota airfield.  The next time i logged on again and joined the server, within 10-15 seconds (i hadn't even moved yet since it takes awhile for the whole screen to be rendered and crap like that) i was already hearing gun shot sounds and started to see a few bullets hitting near my feet, so in that instance i just immediately jumped to a different server. Im all about actually fighting and if i do die then i die, thats dayz for you, but if i just relogged on and immediately begin taking fire thats not really fair. So in those cases i believe its okay to exit and jump to a different server.

 

But on the topic of server hopping to get geared out quickly/ghosting to an area to relog in and be better positioned to kill someone, yes thats ridiculous and i cant wait for them to implement something to stop that.

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Can we stop complaining about server hoppers? It's in Alpha, I can never even find loot, even the basic needs like water and food can never be found because everything is wiped clean. Half the time the only time to get loot or to even kit you HAVE to server hop. Do I like doing it? No. Will I KoS if I hop on and you are in the room? No. I'm a friendly.

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Can we stop complaining about server hoppers? It's in Alpha, I can never even find loot, even the basic needs like water and food can never be found because everything is wiped clean. Half the time the only time to get loot or to even kit you HAVE to server hop. Do I like doing it? No. Will I KoS if I hop on and you are in the room? No. I'm a friendly.

 

Those items are gone because they are taken by server hoppers. Hopping is the problem, not the solution. Hey, I just ran a mile to this new town, but all it's shit is gone because people are intermittently signing into the building where the Mosin spawns. What am I to do? Run to the next town and hope that a server hopper hasn't taken all the good stuff there? Nah, I think I'll just server hop. It really is ruining the game. 

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You probably should care.  Read the forum rules and the several sticky posts on using the search function.  Instead we have fuckwits forum-noobs who create 1000s of useless threads that all have the same topic and discussion as the last 999 threads about the same thing.

Then we have the thread nazi that come in and post off topic comments and pollute threads about the search function.  Maybe if there is 1000 threads about a topic, it might be something important.

Sorry if my thread offended you so much. 

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Can we stop complaining about server hoppers? It's in Alpha, I can never even find loot, even the basic needs like water and food can never be found because everything is wiped clean. Half the time the only time to get loot or to even kit you HAVE to server hop. Do I like doing it? No. Will I KoS if I hop on and you are in the room? No. I'm a friendly.

 

You should find some servers that restart more. I usually play on 3 different servers, 1 of them restarts every hour, 1 of them restarts every 2 hours, 1 of them restarts every 4 hours. No need to server hop if you play on  a server that restarts a decent amount so that the loot is refreshed.

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How about no. It would be better to use a log out timer (roughly 5-10seconds) and then if you join a new server then rejoin the old one you have an additional timer for maybe up to a few minutes for trying to server hop

That would work as well..

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You should find some servers that restart more. I usually play on 3 different servers, 1 of them restarts every hour, 1 of them restarts every 2 hours, 1 of them restarts every 4 hours. No need to server hop if you play on  a server that restarts a decent amount so that the loot is refreshed.

Last time server restarted, my character got wiped. :/

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No one but hackers should be getting banned at this point. With that said, I think server hopping/ghosting is ruining the game. The game was not meant to be played as if we are magical teleporting people jumping through alternate dimensions, trying to get into a good position to kill another jumper, or trying to get that loot before any other jumper does. DayZ is not supposed to be the movie Jumper

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