My Kit: What can i improve on ?

[hitt0r 78]

I'm a n00b & only have 35hrs under my belt, i'm more accustomed to counter-strike fps games albeit I've never played arma type games.

 

below is my load-out and i was wondering if i should be searching for anything specific to improve what i currently have to maximise my current gear (until i get shot and die!)

 

majority of the load-out is pristine.

 

 

M4A1 - all pristine.

Suppressor 556

Atlas Bipod

m68 CompM2 Optical

M4 Buttstock

m4 Handguard MP

STANAG Coupled (60 rounds)

 

Body

Firefighter Axe

Ballistic Helmet

Military Boots

Brown Gloves

Shades

 

TTsKO Jacket

6 x Tins Tuna.

 

TTsKO Pants

3 x Beans

3 x Spaghetti

 

UK Assault Vest Olive

FNX45 + 15 Clip + 15 bullets

4 x Tuna

 

Green Mountain Backpack

Handcuffs

Keys

300 Ammo Box (full with M4 ammo)

1 x Rice

1 x Bloodbag IV o+ (my blood)

2 x Canteen 100%

1 x Bandages 100%

5 x Cans of Soda

1 x FNX clip 15 bullets loaded.

1 x ACOG Optics

1 x Can opener

 

 

i know i need some antibiotics but i can't think of anything else i actually need? any help from the experienced among you will help. What is the ideal loadout combination? obviously some foods provide more energy than others etc... wonder what the 'best' loadout is for survival!? any thoughts??

Edited January 13, 2014 by hitt0r

[Guest]

would work on getting a press vest or anti stab vest, has 6 slots instead of most 8 but it's worth it due to it's bullet impact

[GOD™ 2795]

More can openers.

[twingunz 308]

Normally after i gear up i start to gear down, start only carrying minimal supplies i always ditch military gear asap makes you the worlds largest KoS target i don't normally KoS but if you're in military gear i know you serious and i ain't risking that so i'ma shoot you down! but if you just hangin out in a flannel, tee or jumper i'll just stalk you for a bit :P 

But if you want all elite gear then you gotta get rid of the m4 buttstock for the magpul and get the rail handguard and attach a flashlight to fully deck you gun out.

Also press vest, stab proof vest and weapon holster are the best vests purely for badassery ;)

Edit: also eat all the food / sodas; i don't carry food on me ever i just have 1 water bottle and i've never starved or even been hungry / thirsty, eat and drink what you find at every town till you're full then move on to give yourself more inv space and it'll easily keep you in a healthy status.

Edited January 13, 2014 by twingunz

[Baarn 53]

- Eat everything you have, there is no reason to store it in your backpack unless you want to trade with other people. (drink Soda immediately, too)

- I'd put the ACOG on the M4A1

- Put the axe in your backpack, it will waste a bit of space but you can draw it with the same speed as from the back and it reduces your visibility.

[ModusNex 4]

eat all your food and soda. Just save the canteens and maybe the rice. See this video for how food works.

 

Basicly you have a giant internal inventory for food in form of energy. Its just wasting space in your inventory when you can store it by eating it untill you are full.

[hitt0r 78]

would work on getting a press vest or anti stab vest, has 6 slots instead of most 8 but it's worth it due to it's bullet impact

 

I've not seen any of these in the game , what are the exact names of these and locations?

 

More can openers.

 

Do they break?

 

Normally after i gear up i start to gear down, start only carrying minimal supplies i always ditch military gear asap makes you the worlds largest KoS target i don't normally KoS but if you're in military gear i know you serious and i ain't risking that so i'ma shoot you down! but if you just hangin out in a flannel, tee or jumper i'll just stalk you for a bit :P 

But if you want all elite gear then you gotta get rid of the m4 buttstock for the magpul and get the rail handguard and attach a flashlight to fully deck you gun out.

Also press vest, stab proof vest and weapon holster are the best vests purely for badassery ;)

Edit: also eat all the food / sodas; i don't carry food on me ever i just have 1 water bottle and i've never starved or even been hungry / thirsty, eat and drink what you find at every town till you're full then move on to give yourself more inv space and it'll easily keep you in a healthy status.

 

Some good advice around the KoS there dude - Cheers!

 

- Eat everything you have, there is no reason to store it in your backpack unless you want to trade with other people. (drink Soda immediately, too)

- I'd put the ACOG on the M4A1

- Put the axe in your backpack, it will waste a bit of space but you can draw it with the same speed as from the back and it reduces your visibility.

 

Yes i will eat everything til my stomach is full.

good advice on the axe in the backpack, can i also put my gun there?

 

eat all your food and soda. Just save the canteens and maybe the rice. See this video for how food works.

 

Basicly you have a giant internal inventory for food in form of energy. Its just wasting space in your inventory when you can store it by eating it untill you are full.

 

Just seen those videos on youtube i havent got 2hrs spare to watch the whole thing so i skimmed through and have a basic concept now, i should be a well fed william not a hungry hank.

[zhrike 264]

Nice kit, and good advice already. The only thing I'd add - if you're going for the full camo effect, replace that mountain backpack with a hunter's backpack, which has 5 fewer slots, but much better camo, and doesn't impede your vision when looking over your shoulder as much, and also creates less of a profile. I'm also trying to replace my m4 with a mosin, but haven't come across one in a while. The .357 also packs more of a punch than the fnx45, but you're set with ammo there already.

You are definitely a target, though. :-)

[matiman 166]

too much food,

not enough medic stuff (charcoal, alcohol, antibiotic, saline bag)

and a good old badass magnum with some ammo :)

[gungza 29]

If you want to engage over long range:  MP handguard, MP butstock, ACOG, bipod (only deploy bipod when prone)

 

If you want to fight close range:  CQB butstock, MP or RIS handguard (flashlight if you have RIS), Tn3 or M68 RDS, and no bipod.  The QCB gives you the fastest movement when when looking though your scope but really bad accuracy.  If you play with a group the CQ setup can work but you won't hit anything further away than 150 meters at most.

 

Other than that as already said don't carry food, you only really need one canteen if any.  Also an ammo box full of ammo is a waste of space.  Just rock 3x60 clips and four piles of ammo.  If you need more ammo than that to get the job done you'll be dead anyway.  Also you need a fully stocked med pack, throw everything out except the bandages and IV, put the bandages at the top of your inventory and fill the medpack with saline packs, iv's, charcoal tabs, antibiotics or alcohol.

 

Also a sidearm is kind of a waste, if you have to have one though make it a magnum.

Edited January 13, 2014 by GungZA

[hitt0r 78]

Nice kit, and good advice already. The only thing I'd add - if you're going for the full camo effect, replace that mountain backpack with a hunter's backpack, which has 5 fewer slots, but much better camo, and doesn't impede your vision when looking over your shoulder as much, and also creates less of a profile. I'm also trying to replace my m4 with a mosin, but haven't come across one in a while. The .357 also packs more of a punch than the fnx45, but you're set with ammo there already.

You are definitely a target, though. :-)

 

Good advice around the hunters backpack - i'm going to look for one now.

 

too much food,

not enough medic stuff (charcoal, alcohol, antibiotic, saline bag)

and a good old badass magnum with some ammo :)

 

For what reasons would i need charcoal ? i won't be eating any rotten food. Great shout with alcohol / AB's and Saline bags.

 

Here's my current load out after eating til my stomach is stuffed (still got loads more eating to do! - it's time consuming!) i've proioritised eating the lesser value/weight ratio foods i.e. kept rice/beans and tuna and ate sardines/soda etc... first 

 

Edited January 13, 2014 by hitt0r

[roanlamond@gmail.com 67]

drop the suppressor, It doesn't change the sound or zombie aggro range, but it is affecting your shooting.

[hitt0r 78]

If you want to engage over long range:  MP handguard, MP butstock, ACOG, bipod (only deploy bipod when prone)

 

If you want to fight close range:  CQB butstock, MP or RIS handguard (flashlight if you have RIS), Tn3 or M68 RDS, and no bipod.  The QCB gives you the fastest movement when when looking though your scope but really bad accuracy.  If you play with a group the CQ setup can work but you won't hit anything further away than 150 meters at most.

 

Other than that as already said don't carry food, you only really need one canteen if any.  Also an ammo box full of ammo is a waste of space.  Just rock 3x60 clips and four piles of ammo.  If you need more ammo than that to get the job done you'll be dead anyway.  Also you need a fully stocked med pack, throw everything out except the bandages and IV, put the bandages at the top of your inventory and fill the medpack with saline packs, iv's, charcoal tabs, antibiotics or alcohol.

 

Also a sidearm is kind of a waste, if you have to have one though make it a magnum.

 

Why only have bipod active when prone? does it reduce accuracy when standing? or is that rumours?

 

Also what does the flashlight do ? (apart from the obvious - ha!)

 

i mainly use it for close / mid range so i'll seek a CQB stock - thanks for the advice. great shout about the ammo box i think i'll get the hunter backpack or even consider none at all to reduce visibility.

 

i find that its pointless keeping medical supply's as 1 bullet usually results in a death in my experience and zombies dont stand a change with an Axe and i don't eat rotten food. the only way i seem to die is through falling through being a careless n00b or being shot! i might ditch the handgun, again i'll never use it.

 

i see there's a common theme here;

 

1. Don't look 'geared out' or if you do stay camouflaged as much as possible.

2. Dont carry food 'eat as you find' and only take 1 canteen.

3. don't hang about populated are'as unless you are part of a group.

 

thanks for all the advice guys, keep it coming! really helpful.

[hitt0r 78]

drop the suppressor, It doesn't change the sound or zombie aggro range, but it is affecting your shooting.

what should be in its place nothing ? 

[schmotto 32]

Find some medic Kits and use them to store stuff in, just keep one set of bandages handy.  Med kits use 4 spaces and hold 6 items.

You can also get those lock boxes which I assume will keep things dry if and when that becomes a problem in the game, I think they also hold 6 items and only use 4 slots?  can't remember.

[roanlamond@gmail.com 67]

what should be in its place nothing ? 

A bayonet, but It doesn't do anything yet. so having nothing is no different than a bayonet.

[hitt0r 78]

Find some medic Kits and use them to store stuff in, just keep one set of bandages handy.  Med kits use 4 spaces and hold 6 items.

You can also get those lock boxes which I assume will keep things dry if and when that becomes a problem in the game, I think they also hold 6 items and only use 4 slots?  can't remember.

 

yeah medikits will be great for AB's alcohol etc... 

 

A bayonet, but It doesn't do anything yet. so having nothing is no different than a bayonet.

 

Rodger.

[Baarn 53]

i find that its pointless keeping medical supply's as 1 bullet usually results in a death in my experience

 

Not in my experience.

 

Took a Mosin shot from 20 meters distance to my chest yesterday, was bleeding like a pig while I ran towards the guy and put two full 60 mags in the guys direction. Didn't kill him though, running and shooting from the chest with an M4A1 doesn't get you far, even close range. But I panicked as I wasn't expecting it at that moment, and he logged out anyway.

Today I took another one or two hits, probably from an M4, not sure, was a hell of a battle on top of a hill. 

I was really happy to have a bandage in my inventory, otherwise this character wouldn't be living since last friday or so…

 

And no, you can't put a rifle in your backpack. The only way you can carry two guns is to put one on your back and take the other in the hands. But that is painful as you have to drop the gun in your hand every time you want to do something else. (And you always risk losing the gun due to server restarts).

Edited January 13, 2014 by Baarn

[hitt0r 78]

Not in my experience.

 

Took a Mosin shot from 20 meters distance to my chest yesterday, was bleeding like a pig while I ran towards the guy and put two full 60 mags in the guys direction. Didn't kill him though, running and shooting from the chest with an M4A1 doesn't get you far, even close range. But I panicked as I wasn't expecting it at that moment, and he logged out anyway.

Today I took another one or two hits, probably from an M4, not sure, was a hell of a battle on top of a hill. 

I was really happy to have a bandage in my inventory, otherwise this character wouldn't be living since last friday or so…

 

And no, you can't put a rifle in your backpack. The only way you can carry two guns is to put one on your back and take the other in the hands. But that is painful as you have to drop the gun in your hand every time you want to do something else. (And you always risk losing the gun due to server restarts).

 

i must be very unlucky then! or they're using hitt0r seeking bullets! i have bandages at the ready always.

 

 

thanks for the advice dude.

Edited January 13, 2014 by hitt0r

[TerminusJuNN 5]

Great topic hitt0r! - I'm going to give you a different perspective and since I have only died a few times since DayZ was made available, perhaps you should give it some weight.

 

First. Don't ditch the extra ammo. Twingunz assumes you will die before using it. What if you run low? Back to highly dangerous airbases to get more? You only go to dangerous locations if you absolutely have to. I run with 2 ammo boxes, mostly 5.56, but plenty of 7.62, 45 cal, and 357 bullets. I don't feel good unless I have nearly 1500 rounds.

 

Second, people will KOS no matter what, camo clothing gives you the best chance if when you run into bandits or "KOSers" and you are near a forest. For city exploration, grey clothing gives you best chance to blend in. At night, black, navy blue, or gray clothing is best. Trust me there is room for everything I am talking about. (Yes those yellow protective cases, I carry 5 of them!) Keep in mind that changing clothing makes no noise and with practice can be done quickly and efficiently. (Once you hot key an item/weapon, it can be inside of the yellow case and it is still accessible!) Play with all these items and those cases and you will learn what many still don't know. I dare say I have the best kit of any player. I know what I say sounds arrogant, but if I was, would I be sharing the info? The Press vest is good, ( I wear mine) but hurts your camouflage in the front of your toon. But, the camper's backpack covers your back. When prone, you are still camo'd. I'm still looking for a ballistic vest, and doubt that it even spawns. never seen anti-stab vest, so don't have an opinion. I like the idea of storing the axe in inventory, and that's the only thing I learned on this thread.

 

Third. Keeping rice is not a bad idea and fill up with water from wells because rice uses lots of water and provides the most energy to add to your 20k pool. Drink water from wells until it says you are full, then maybe 5-7 more times. You are vulnerable when drinking and some players camp wells. Don't eat canned goods as you find them. Popping soda cans and eating makes a tremendous amount of noise. Gather the items, leave the urban area and eat away from populated areas. BTW, bayonets (for Mosin) do open cans if you don't have a can opener, but like other items, you lose a % of food. One can opener will always suffice, and even a ruined one still works in the alpha. Eating should be done in private if you are a lone wolf. Once hunting/cooking are working, the need for urban areas will diminish unless low on medical supplies, or ammo. Try to be with at least one other trusted player when in dangerous zones. The med advice you received was good, except you need a morphine hypo in case you break your legs. Unless you feel like crawling around looking for sticks to make a splint. Later, dirty or unsterile bandages/rags will carry a risk of infection, thus always have at least two 100% pristine bandages and hot key both of them.

 

The long range scope on the Mosin is vital until they add binoculars. On larger cities and bases patience will keep you alive, but on medium to high pop servers, players are spawning in and out, so no area is truly clear. For now switching back and forth between 1st and 3rd person perspective can help you survive, but 3rd person may be going away altogether, so I stay on 1st most of the time and don't allow 3rd to become a crutch. I'm not saying using 3rd person is wrong, and in fact it's smart while it's available, but 1st person is not that bad and on 3rd, your toon in itself is a distraction. Anytime you are fooling around with inventory for more than 30 seconds, in volatile zones, you risk getting killed. Do that type of stuff in the forest. You can carry the M4 and the Mosin, but be ready to lose either of them at any given point. Carry extra ACOG and long range scope so when you lose one, all you will need (mostly) is to get another rifle, restock on ammo when you have to be in those areas. again. Try to kill Zeds with axe when possible. Gunfire can draw bandits/KOS players, as well as additional Zeds. Keep the noise suppressor in storage until it's fixed. I have FN45 and Python. Why not? The 45s red dot sight is neat, but I almost got myself killed by server hoppers finding mine. There is no such thing as a perfect kit, and much of this has to do with your game style which is always evolving. (hopefully)

 

The greatest dangers to you/us are other players we do not know. Especially when we are playing alone. I don't preach to just stay in the woods. Most of the fun in this game is teaming up with other players, but all of us know that other players = eventual death. I'm still learning and try to read the forums and watch videos, but in the end, experience and building knowledge of the game increases survivability. There really is no right or wrong and we are going to see all kinds of problems over the next 2 years. I'm going to try and take those changes, problems, bugs in stride. I've been a gamer since 1972 and I am starting to think that DayZ is going to be the best game ever made. Our job as alpha players/ testers is to report problems to Rocket and his team of devs so they can use meaningful feedback and prioritize fixes and enhancements. Find me in Steam hitt0r and we can run together. Terminus-=JuNN=-

[fitzee 248]

Hi.

 

I didn't read the entire thread so I'm probably repeating stuff here.

 

Try to find a pristine acog for engaging targets at longer range. I'm not saying to replace the M68(its much better for close quarters), but swap them out as needed.

 

IMO you don't need to carry all that food, maybe 1-3 items just in case.

 

I would carry more than 1 bandage, or alternatively a stack of rags.

 

While the mountain backpack has the largest capacity, it stands out like a sore thumb. People will lie down somewhere thinking they are concealed, but the pack is usually in plain sight. Also the writing and stripes on the back practically glow in the dark. I personally would switch it out with a hunting pack.

 

An alternative would be to drop the pack if your about to go into battle(a good idea with any pack really), though its kind of risky since there isn't any warning message before server restarts.

 

Regards.

[Ineedscoffee 464]

Normally after i gear up i start to gear down, start only carrying minimal supplies i always ditch military gear asap makes you the worlds largest KoS target i don't normally KoS but if you're in military gear i know you serious and i ain't risking that so i'ma shoot you down! but if you just hangin out in a flannel, tee or jumper i'll just stalk you for a bit :P 

But if you want all elite gear then you gotta get rid of the m4 buttstock for the magpul and get the rail handguard and attach a flashlight to fully deck you gun out.

Also press vest, stab proof vest and weapon holster are the best vests purely for badassery ;)

Edit: also eat all the food / sodas; i don't carry food on me ever i just have 1 water bottle and i've never starved or even been hungry / thirsty, eat and drink what you find at every town till you're full then move on to give yourself more inv space and it'll easily keep you in a healthy status.

I agree with 100% with this. Ditch that damned military gear. Your a walking target. Looking like a barracks rat just attracts other military leg humpers.

Scale down that pack to a 25 slot run of the mill orange starter, grabs some autumn hunting pants, brown hoodie, ditch that damned vest for a holster. Hell, I'd even get rid if the m4 in favor of a mosin. Also that firefighter axe makes you a target, switch it for a wood chopping axe.

Your gonna be losing space here,but once your at a healthy status, you don't need to pack that much.

I run a orange 25slot pack, mosin with pu scope, white check shirt, autumn hunting pants. I have plenty of space for two rolls of bandages, compass, can opener, my full map, couple cans of beans, two canteens, two unopened boxes of mosin ammo, and three yellow water tight cases. One holds my pistol and two spare clips, one holds back up mosin ammo and a long scope, the third holds back up cans of beans. I keep those three in case some wise guy wings my pack. I still have room for extra. Top it off with hiking boots, brown work gloves, and a brown beenie.

[pteryx 14]

Ditch the handgun and use the space for something useful.

[djporternz 644]

Okay, but you're not going to like it!

 

Get rid of the guns and all that military gear. It's a crutch for the weak, and you're not weak, are you?

 

Grab some med kits and do something that's actually useful.

 

Hey, you asked!

[pteryx 14]

Don't worry about all the types here that want you to ditch the good gear so you won't be more of a "target".

 

Assume everyone is going to kill you anyway, and use your superior gear to kill them first.