Less weapon spawn + no starter weapon = GG

[herd 69]

I was watching lets plays on youtube prior to 1.7 and people were finding 1-2 weapons with ammo in every barn and just generally very much weapons in the game.

In 1.7.1.4 right now, after playing for two days I barely find a weapon, and If I find one - its without ammo.

Did Rocket secretly significantly reduce the spawn of weapons? Because nothing was said about it in the change logs.

So what do we have right now?

- less weapon spawn

- no weapon for new players

- very hard zombies that brake your legs and let you bleed on every hit

= unplayable.

[richard_b 15]

OH please get over it. Just grab a Lee Enfield form a barn. You don't need to take on every zombie in a city.

[Copgun 2]

Update 1.7.1.3

* [NEW] Significant loot rebalancing

I'm sure you've seen people say it a million times but... it's an alpha, I'm sure it'll be tweaked some more.

[herd 69]

OH please get over it. Just grab a Lee Enfield form a barn. You don't need to take on every zombie in a city.

There no weapons at the barn. Checked different barn like 5 times. Before you had like 2 weapons WITH ammo in barns.

[istari766 0]

Part of it is just experience. I died yesterday and spawned outside of Cherno. I've played enough to know my surroundings without needing a map, at least on the coast. So I headed to Balota Airfield, found a shotgun, with a little bit of ammo, almost got killed by zombies, but I managed to run and hide. Got away with 7k blood. Headed into Cherno, got food, drink, a sidearm, and some basic tools. I was sneaky most of the time, I managed to anger some zombies, but ran indoors and took out the ones that followed. I also was spooked by some survivors and shot and killed them because they were armed. After I got out of there I had about 5k blood, then I headed north off of the coast where the survival rate gets much much higher.

[deepfried 95]

OH please get over it. Just grab a Lee Enfield form a barn. You don't need to take on every zombie in a city.

There no weapons at the barn. Checked different barn like 5 times. Before you had like 2 weapons WITH ammo in barns.

Strange, I'm finding lots of weapons in barns, usually at least 1 gun, and in one crazy barn I found about 6 primary guns!

[herd 69]

Part of it is just experience. I died yesterday and spawned outside of Cherno. I've played enough to know my surroundings without needing a map' date=' at least on the coast. So I headed to Balota Airfield, found a shotgun, with a little bit of ammo, almost got killed by zombies, but I managed to run and hide. Got away with 7k blood. Headed into Cherno, got food, drink, a sidearm, and some basic tools. I was sneaky most of the time, I managed to anger some zombies, but ran indoors and took out the ones that followed. I also was spooked by some survivors and shot and killed them because they were armed. After I got out of there I had about 5k blood, then I headed north off of the coast where the survival rate gets much much higher.

[/quote']

Right, the skill argument. I am all for the realism , but there is the line where the game starts to become unplayable. And there is no realism in this game in a sense IRL there would be more possibilities to survive.

So since its still a game all I am asking to make it playable again. That incldues:

- remove legs braking from zombie attacks

- spawn more weapons

- make more loot places i.e. in front of every building

- Players should not die from 1-2 bullets

- Zombies should stop following you after some time

The argument i am a cod kiddy and should l2p doesnt work here, sorry.

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Strange' date=' I'm finding lots of weapons in barns, usually at least 1 gun, and in one crazy barn I found about 6 primary guns!

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Yes, it IS very strange. I purposely play on different servers.

[Rask 32]

For the record, some servers get cleaned out the second they restart, if you're not finding guns then just server hop, I've found it significantly EASIER to find military grade loot inside cities/towns and double barrel shotguns spawn in every other building.

[zeeb 6]

Agreed.

[Sarissofoi 40]

Nah.

I really like the new setup.

For me no starting gun(also it will be nice to remove starting backpack) and less weapons is good.

It make new finding a lot more exciting. Any upgrade more rewarding.

Just fix the zombies. Their movement. No more turbo sprinting no more zigzag no more warping.

They are strong? Ok.

They are hard to kill? Ok.

They hit like truck? Ok.

They can hear/see you from miles and run like little rocket?

No ty.

[bad_mojo (DayZ) 1204]

This is an observation/complaint, it does not belong in the suggestions section.

But, one reason you might be having trouble finding weapons, is that more people are taking them then before, especially around the spawn points.

And I think you meant the title to read "Less weapon spawn + no starter weapon = QQ"

[herd 69]

And I think you meant the title to read "Less weapon spawn + no starter weapon = QQ"

Ever thought you can still complain about game balance and propose better gameplay elements w/o QQing? Ever thought not only casual COD kiddies can complain about the game balance being broken? No? Too bad.

You are the worst kind of people on this forum. In your eyes you are either complain and are 13 y.o. COD noob OR you tell everyone that you enjoy the game the way it is even if its not. Very sad.

Right now the game makes little fun due to broken melee, broken zombies. Add less weapons spawn and very few spawn points overall and you ahve an enjoyable game. If you really like the way the game is right now I pity you.

[bad_mojo (DayZ) 1204]

HA! You are the one who used GG in your thread title.

GG = QQ

You are quitting because of something you disliked. That is the very definition of rage quitting.

I'm the kind of person this community should consist of. I'm extremely honest and have no problems giving my opinion on any subject, I'll admit when I'm wrong, I'll admit the things I dislike, hell I'll even continue to talk to people like you who call me names and make assumptions.

I freaking love how you and some others have this idea in your head that I and other "hardcore" members of this community are actually just putting on a show about how we want the game to be harder, while we secretly hate the difficulty and want things to be easier. What the fuck do you base that bullshit on? Because nobody could possibly want a game that difficult? Grow the fuck up and realize that not everyone in this world cares what others think of them. This is the fucking internet son, I don't ever have to interact with you if I don't want to, so why the fuck would I care what you think of me? I don't get my jollies off random strangers thinking i'm a hardcore motherfucker! And if I did get my jollies like that, a game?!?! A freaking video game is where I'd want to appear hardcore? Games are for kids, even the baddest motherfucker in a video game is nothing compared to say... a biker, or a gang member, a criminal or soldier. Those are the real bad asses in this world, not fucking gamers.

[sirfluffkillington 1]

I can't agree that it's unplayable. It's insanely hard when you start out, that is true. There's very little margin for error, but I much prefer this end of the spectrum to the other. Even running around like a numpty for a day with a crowbar because there was not a gun to be found. Either that or some bastard had nicked all the mags.

It can make you rage, but it pays off in adrenaline in the tough spots, and massive reward when you find something you really need.

As for broken this, broken that. It's to be expected - you report it and keep on keeping on. If you can't do that just cool your heels with something else for a while and come back fresh.

[SASQUATCH_OZ 0]

You ask for this kind of treatment when your OP sounded whiny. It was a bit constructive, but calling the game unplayable is a "bit" of an overstatement.

[herd 69]

Where did I say I am raging or qqing ? All I am saying - the mod in its current state (less weapon spawn, broken melee combat) is unenjoyable even for me. And I always thought I was a hardcore player, playing all games on hard and being familiar with OFP, ARMA1/2.

I cant find any weapon and its retarded. Right know I run across whole Cherno and didnt find any gun. Then I wall killed from my back from some retarded bandit. I even didnt have the chance to run away. It is supposed to be fun ? Its not.

What is the fun to run around w/o weapons for 1h looting all cherno and not finding any weapon only to be 2 shotted from the back by some idiot ? Is this the new definition of good game design ? Sorry, but its retarded.

Just look at Diablo 3 hardcore mechanic. Blizzard always said - players should NOT be punished immediately. If you get 1 or 2 shotted in the game - its a fail game design. And dont talk about realism. ARMA 2 isnt realistic, and nor is DayZ.

When will Rocket and "elitist hardcore" players realize, that making the game very hard, spawning almost no weapons tends to bandit playstyle. Right now everyone just shoots on sight, because weapons and other loot is very scarce. I thought It was obvious it would lead to even more PK.

All I want for the sake of gameplay is:

* more weapon spawn

* more _possible_ spawn points i.e. in from of every building

* no more broken legs from zombies

* nerfed bleeding. You should only bleed if you loose 3-4k blood.

* zombies should drop more loot.

* Players should NOT die from 1-2 shots.

Rocket should make so that regular servers have more blood for players, better loots etc and overall easier to survive. You still will die, but live longer.

All the "hardcore elitist" players would still play on their hardcore servers dying from the rain, I dont care.

[BwickFS39 9]

Just look at Diablo 3 hardcore mechanic. Blizzard always said - players should NOT be punished immediately. If you get 1 or 2 shotted in the game - its a fail game design. And dont talk about realism. ARMA 2 isnt realistic' date=' and nor is DayZ.

[/quote']

Arma 2 is actually very realistic its the most realistic game on the market, trust me on that one. As for what blizzard said that doesn't apply here Diablo 3 is a different game, they aimed for something different. as for getting shot twice and dying and calling it failed game design is false. If you want an example contact me we will go out to a field ill bring my .22 and i shoot you a couple and we will see what happens. If you run into a good shooter will be able to get a double tap in a tight grouping which will really fuck your day up

[herd 69]

Just look at Diablo 3 hardcore mechanic. Blizzard always said - players should NOT be punished immediately. If you get 1 or 2 shotted in the game - its a fail game design. And dont talk about realism. ARMA 2 isnt realistic' date=' and nor is DayZ.

[/quote']

Arma 2 is actually very realistic its the most realistic game on the market, trust me on that one. As for what blizzard said that doesn't apply here Diablo 3 is a different game, they aimed for something different. as for getting shot twice and dying and calling it failed game design is false. If you want an example contact me we will go out to a field ill bring my .22 and i shoot you a couple and we will see what happens. If you run into a good shooter will be able to get a double tap in a tight grouping which will really fuck your day up

*facepalm* about this game being realistic. You do realize its still a game? The only semi realistic part is the shooting mechanic. Everything else - a game. And it doesnt make sence in the sence of this mod.

And how is diablo hardcore mechanic doesnt apply? It applies to all hardcore games - players that have smth to loose after playing 1h-50h should not die from 1 shoot. As I said - make normal and hardcore servers. Go play on hardcore dying from 1 shoot after looting for 3 hours. If you dont have things to do IRL not my problem.

[generationvii 6]

OP this isn't the game for you, do yourself a favor and move on.

Most of the things you want changed are core elements of the game which aren't

going to change.

[herd 69]

OP this isn't the game for you' date=' do yourself a favor and move on.

Most of the things you want changed are core elements of the game which aren't

going to change.

[/quote']

LOL. Next.

[BwickFS39 9]

Just look at Diablo 3 hardcore mechanic. Blizzard always said - players should NOT be punished immediately. If you get 1 or 2 shotted in the game - its a fail game design. And dont talk about realism. ARMA 2 isnt realistic' date=' and nor is DayZ.

[/quote']

Arma 2 is actually very realistic its the most realistic game on the market, trust me on that one. As for what blizzard said that doesn't apply here Diablo 3 is a different game, they aimed for something different. as for getting shot twice and dying and calling it failed game design is false. If you want an example contact me we will go out to a field ill bring my .22 and i shoot you a couple and we will see what happens. If you run into a good shooter will be able to get a double tap in a tight grouping which will really fuck your day up

*facepalm* about this game being realistic. You do realize its still a game? The only semi realistic part is the shooting mechanic. Everything else - a game. And it doesnt make sence in the sence of this mod.

Yes I get that this is a game yes. I was simply stating the fact if you compare it to the other games in its genre it is the most realistic and that BI also Developed the VBS2 which much of this game is based on. And also Arma 2 is a Sim not a game

[herd 69]

Yes I get that this is a game yes. I was simply stating the fact if you compare it to the other games in its genre it is the most realistic and that BI also Developed the VBS2 which much of this game is based on.

Like I dont know that. For the third time - I played all the OFP/ARMA1/ARMA2 games and I love them.

And yea, btw, about VBS2. If someon is so pro hardcore realistic military sim - go play VBS2 and GTFO.

ARMA2 is being sold like a GAME, not a military simulator.

If this game is so ultra realistic why the fuck you can save your game in single player ? Because you should. Because its still a game to enjoy.

- How the fuck zombies break you LEGS ? In one hit ? Very realistic.

- I cant enter every building? Very realistic.

- I can die and respawn? WHAT ? Very realistic.

- I cant have my main weapon on my back while using melee weapons ? Very realistic.

- I am bleeding from one hit from the zombie to death ? Very realistic.

- There are no useable cars in the apocalypse ? Very realistic.

- There are no weapons in the whole cherno ? Very realistic.

- Zombies dont have any loot apart from b beans or coke? Very realistic.

- I can run for hours w/o being tired? Very realistic.

- Zombies dont die frmo hunger? Very realistic.

- People shooting everyone on sight? Very realistic.

Now come again any say its a realistic game and I have to L2P or leave. FFS is a damn game.

I know many thing are engine restrictions - thats why its still a game. So can we all agree that ARMA / DayZ doesnt try to be super realistic and compromises have to be made, its inevitable.

If you can loose everything after 3h of looting in 1 sec, then at least make the game easier.

ps. God, how I hate those elitist hardcore dipshit's telling me the game is not for me. This is what wrong with DayZ's community - arrogant hardcore idiots who dont know anything about game design and think everything is ok with DayZ's balance. Get a life.

[BwickFS39 9]

Like I dont know that. For the third time - I played all the OFP/ARMA1/ARMA2 games and I love them.

If this game is so ultra realistic why the fuck you can save your game in single player ? Because you should. Because its still a game to enjoy.

If you can loose everything after 3h of looting in 1 sec' date=' then at least make the game easier. God, how I hate those elitist hardcore dipshit's telling me the game is not for me. This is what wrong with DayZ's community - arrogant hardcore idiots.

[/quote']

Seriously adapt and overcome, learn from your mistakes. If I had my way I wouldn't make any more changes to make it easier or tougher. Right now its at a point where they need to balance the food loot a little more and it would be good. As for not finding a weapon, its still easy to get a gun your just not trying.

[mcslaughter 14]

Yes I get that this is a game yes. I was simply stating the fact if you compare it to the other games in its genre it is the most realistic and that BI also Developed the VBS2 which much of this game is based on.

Like I dont know that. For the third time - I played all the OFP/ARMA1/ARMA2 games and I love them.

If this game is so ultra realistic why the fuck you can save your game in single player ? Because you should. Because its still a game to enjoy.

- How the fuck zombies break you LEGS ? In one hit ? Very realistic.

- I cant have my main weapon on my back while using melee weapons ? Very realistic.

- I am bleeding from one hit from the zombie to death ? Very realistic.

- There are no useable cars in the apocalypse ? Very realistic.

- There are no weapons in the whole cherno ? Very realistic.

- Zombies dont have any loot apart from b beans or coke? Very realistic.

- I can run for hours w/o being tired? Very realistic.

- Zombies dont die frmo hunger? Very realistic.

- People shooting everyone on sight? Very realistic.

Now come again any say its a realistic game and I have to L2P or leave. FFS is a damn game.

If you can loose everything after 3h of looting in 1 sec' date=' then at least make the game easier.

ps. God, how I hate those elitist hardcore dipshit's telling me the game is not for me. This is what wrong with DayZ's community - arrogant hardcore idiots who dont know anything about game design and think everything is ok with DayZ's balance. Get a life.

[/quote']

Getting angry isn't going to make your opinions valid. In fact, it's just going to make you look like as much of a dickhead as the alleged "hardcore dipshits" you're so upset about.

P.S. "Get a life" isn't a very powerful stab from behind a computer screen. Tell me again, what is it that you're crying on your keyboard over? Oh yeah, "a damn game."

gg n00b go play Hello Kitty Island Adventure lololol

[herd 69]

All I am saying - the "this game is a realistic game" is not a valid argument.

Too hard to understand, right ?