Western-feeling | Or: My 2 wishes: Hat & Leg Holster

[irishroy 1347]

 

 

 

 

I like the idea of a leg holster and tbh its such an obvious addition Im sure it will make an appearance. Good to hear :>

Also just FYI Chest holsters are often used by pilots etc or by anyone who works in confined spaces,

Wat r FYI-holsters? Even google can't help me with this one, so it must be a pretty dangerous secret /(°o°)\

 

 

Leg holster is a great idea. I was thinking about this aswell, it would be an attire slot or whatever that could be worn in addition to a vest.

Maybe it could take a belt-slot, if belt's will be implemented, i thought.

But: when the legholster accupies the belt-slot, i can't have a belt-western-holster.... Problems over Problems...

Edited January 19, 2014 by irishroy

[irishroy 1347]

Sorry for necromancy

 

what about

as an additional layer, like a poncho, raincoat, ghilliesuit (not sure about this one, tho)?

 

(SORRY for big pick, but i dunno, how to "Spoiler" )

 

 

 

during rain, etc.,

also used, when its hot, because long clothes work like an  "air condition" (the hot air circulates between the coat, clothes and skin)

Edited January 30, 2014 by irishroy

[fox0rz 56]

I would rock this look if it was possible:

[irishroy 1347]

who is it?

[Karond 0]

who is it?

 

Revolver Ocelot, a russian character from the videogames saga "Metal Gear Solid", one of the best villain of the last 20 years and a lovely character for the ones who love westerns.

Master of the fanning style of shooting and spinning techniques.

 

Sorry for necromancy

 

what about dusters as an additional layer, like a poncho, raincoat, ghilliesuit (not sure about this one, tho)?

 

during rain, etc.,

also used, when its hot, because long clothes work like an  "air condition" (the hot air circulates between the coat, clothes and skin)

 

Duster, like the name say, are for cover the user from dust, and are pretty much uncomfortable to wear, especially in a forest. Are heavy, encumber and slow your movement for the most.

Poncho are almost the same of Duster, not so easy to wear, slow your movement for taking things on your chest, there a reason if we don't use it anymore., like the cape or the mantle.

 

I agree with a lot of this. Except for the Hat... With Russia, it just don't fit. (maybe if a fancy dress shop is added to satisfy peoples quirky needs)

Because the pistol is a viable gun now, I do sometimes ignore the other weapons in favour of simplicity, being able to reach for my pistol in a second a copping off some shots, is very gunslinger-like. So right there and then I wanted to be a feared pistol user.

When I put it into context i realised 2 thing.

when you pull the pistol out of the holster, it's defaulted as a lowered weapon. Counter Intuitive. Even to avoid the KOS nature, the gun would already have been in the holster, which would be enough, I think.

I've never Ever seen a holster like that, Diagonal on the chest. It looks awful and feels awful. 

  

 

Is true, in europe even farmer use different hats, but personally, the hats is the last of the thing that trouble me in a game like DayZ, we have Payday2 masks -.-'

 

For being a gunslinger you need a lot and when I say a lot, i mean a damn lot of training. Shooting is not so easy like movies show you, and having a fast extractin skill, from every type of holsters, require experience, other than training and natural reflex. This aspect is worked really well on ArmA series, and on DayZ is even better, make you actually think if is better to put away your gun or have it ready to use even inside empty city.

 

For the lowered weapon, don't know if in DayZ is the same (never really checked) but in ArmA for raise your weapon you only have to type your fire button. If that don't work, is easy to put the button for raise it in a more convenient position, so that you can extract and be ready to aim in almost no time.

 

The chest holster born WW1-WW2 ERA, at the time no one use legs for bring thing in battle, and with the fact that they don't use gearvest, but for the most of the time bandoliers, explain why they bring it on the chest. (And for the chronicles, on my belief, is not uncomfortable in that position, the worst is the belt holster used by operative nowadays. Really uncomfortable.) By the way, for see different type of chest holsters, you only have to type on google "WW2 Chest holsters" or "Chest Holsters Vietnam Style"

 

The leg holster I also agree with, whole-heartedly.  Maybe not just for a sawn of shotgun, but for that or a pistol.  Possibly one that can be crafter/tradeskilled to differentiate between one for pistol and one for a 12 gauge shorty.

 

Leather holsters are not so hard to made (sure, an novice handmade leather holster will look like crap, but hey, better than nothing), you only need cleaned leather, hot water and a leather needle.

And at the contrary of the polymers holsters, they can fit different type of weapons inside, you only have to take the right measures. You can use them for a shotgun, to pistol, to an automatic pistol. Is only about taking the right shape and then apply pressure to fit the thing inside.

 

 

I'd like to see either the Single action army (for faster shooting), or the colt dragoon

 

Not for kill your enthusiasm, but a single action revolver will never be faster than a full automatic pistol, or a double action revolver.

I know the fanning style of shooting is all cool etc(I really like it too), but is not really fuctional nowadays. Other than that, fanning require years of trainings to acquire the dexterity, and is not really precise over very short distance, but hey, is a really quick way to try to shoot your foot!

In a world where you find limitated ammunations, where no place is safe, I don't really see a man wasting is ammo trying to training himself to shoot using this system.

Other than that, I will doubt the ArmA engine is capable of animate a fast extraction and fanning animation.

 

But seriosly, I will really like to see different type of holsters, so as to have different kind of clothing.

Maybe even some types of bandoliers WW2 style for the mosin/shotgun ammo, really cool to see.

And even a military poncho/raincoat is not a bad idea, maybe with a hood ... please, a need hoods, I can't watch my character head/neck again, that is driving me insane.

 

I would love even a bags system based on the modern M.O.L.L.E, this will be so perfect, to adapt your holster/gearvest on what you need, where you need.

 

Sorry for the grammar errors, not a native speaker and never really study it.

Edited February 4, 2014 by Karond

[irishroy 1347]

Revolver Ocelot, a russian character from the videogames saga "Metal Gear Solid", one of the best villain of the last 20 years and a lovely character for the ones who love westerns.

Master of the fanning style of shooting and spinning techniques.

I'll definitively have a closer look ;)

 

Duster, like the name say, are for cover the user from dust, and are pretty much uncomfortable to wear, especially in a forest. Are heavy, encumber and slow your movement for the most.

Poncho are almost the same of Duster, not so easy to wear, slow your movement for taking things on your chest, there a reason if we don't use it anymore., like the cape or the mantle.

Shoes like the leather-slippers etc. are also not the best thing to wear, but it's in the game.

The little schoolbackpack is rather impractical, but still it's in the game.

The chest-holster also isn't good at all. why take it, when an assault-vest can hold 2 guns or 8 batteries?

and still i love the leather-slippers and the chest holster.

I looks good, and because they don't have no real cons ( the leatherslipper have same durability as combat-boots), i'll wear them.

 

 

Is true, in europe even farmer use different hats, but personally, the hats is the last of the thing that trouble me in a game like DayZ, we have Payday2 masks -.-'

To be honest, somehow they fit in, a bit.

Not really, but well.

We need to deal with them/it.

 

For being a gunslinger you need a lot and when I say a lot, i mean a damn lot of training. Shooting is not so easy like movies show you, and having a fast extractin skill, from every type of holsters, require experience, other than training and natural reflex. This aspect is worked really well on ArmA series, and on DayZ is even better, make you actually think if is better to put away your gun or have it ready to use even inside empty city.

nono, i am not the "shoot 4 fun and waste-ammo-happytriggerfinger-guy". i rather sneak around, and when i see a player, most of the time i "just" avoid him.

for me, it's just about the fact, that i could, if i would want xDDDD

 

Leather holsters are not so hard to made (sure, an novice handmade leather holster will look like crap, but hey, better than nothing), you only need cleaned leather, hot water and a leather needle.

And at the contrary of the polymers holsters, they can fit different type of weapons inside, you only have to take the right measures. You can use them for a shotgun, to pistol, to an automatic pistol. Is only about taking the right shape and then apply pressure to fit the thing inside.

Hm, well.

Maybe we'll be able to "craft" things like that, when hunting/leather is being implemented.

 

 

In a world where you find limitated ammunations, where no place is safe, I don't really see a man wasting is ammo trying to training himself to shoot using this system.

that was just an idea, that came to my mind ;)

 

But seriosly, I will really like to see different type of holsters, so as to have different kind of clothing.

Maybe even some types of bandoliers WW2 style for the mosin/shotgun ammo, really cool to see.

And even a military poncho/raincoat is not a bad idea, maybe with a hood ... please, a need hoods, I can't watch my character head/neck again, that is driving me insane.

 

I would love even a bags system based on the modern M.O.L.L.E, this will be so perfect, to adapt your holster/gearvest on what you need, where you need.

what exactly is this molle?

As far as i know, people can adjust/attach lots of different things(holsters, pouches, etc.) to a "base-vest"?

Edited February 5, 2014 by irishroy

[Karond 0]

 

I'll definitively have a closer look ;)

If you love Colt SAA, fanning and spinning mixed with a modern western look(from MGS2 they put inside the mix even some russian style), he is on the ride for your favorite character, believe me. :P

 

Duster, like the name say, are for cover the user from dust, and are pretty much uncomfortable to wear, especially in a forest. Are heavy, encumber and slow your movement for the most.

Poncho are almost the same of Duster, not so easy to wear, slow your movement for taking things on your chest, there a reason if we don't use it anymore., like the cape or the mantle.

Shoes like the leather-slippers etc. are also not the best thing to wear, but it's in the game.

The little schoolbackpack is rather impractical, but still it's in the game.

The chest-holster also isn't good at all. why take it, when an assault-vest can hold 2 guns or 8 batteries?

and still i love the leather-slippers and the chest holster.

I looks good, and because they don't have no real cons ( the leatherslipper have same durability as combat-boots), i'll wear them.

 

Not saying that is pointless to wear them if you like the style, only in a modern world, into a zombie apocalypse, running into a forest, maybe you want something different on your shoulders.

But counting that DayZ is in a fictional world (and don't have some of the problems of real world, like stuck yourself in a branch/hedge), and having a wide selection of differents type of clothings is never a bad thing for variety of players you meet, would not be the hell on earth having a pair of duster inside.

Maybe different type, mixed from old leather ones, to modern waterproof ones. Different lenghs too will be a joy to the eyes.

The only problem is, I'm not sure if the ArmA engine is able to animate a long coat, never see something similar on this engine, hope they can work a way to it. (Hear they are working on a new physics system here on the forum)

Btw, the western style survivor, I see it better wearing "Wellies", the brown damaged ones look like leather and avoid the "middle age" man aspect. (Sorry, the leatherslipper was worn by my grandpa years ago, and I'm still laughing thinking of a survivor treating me with that shoes on.)

 

To be honest, somehow they fit in, a bit.

Not really, but well.

We need to deal with them/it.

 

No, on this one, no. The clown masks are not for this game, and I'm a backer of the burlap sack on your head with two holes for the eyes and a rope for close it, so I'm okay with the jokes, but the clown mask really don't fit inside the game.

 

nono, i am not the "shoot 4 fun and waste-ammo-happytriggerfinger-guy". i rather sneak around, and when i see a player, most of the time i "just" avoid him.

for me, it's just about the fact, that i could, if i would want xDDDD

 

Was only explaining to DaveZ that shooting in real life is not a easy thing, even harder being skilled. Most of the people, taking a gun in their hand for the first time are awkard. So is normal that our survivor is not a navy seal ready for duty, and honestly, I prefer this way.

 

Hm, well.

Maybe we'll be able to "craft" things like that, when hunting/leather is being implemented.

 

Hope so, will be a nice add.

that was just an idea, that came to my mind ;)

 

I understand you, I'm a SAA fan too, and love fanning. But, with sadness, I have to say, is a style of shooting good for impress, but against most of modern weapons, it lose entirely sense.

Is like going in a fight against a man with a rifle, armed with a butter knife.

 

what exactly is this molle?

As far as i know, people can adjust/attach lots of different things(holsters, pouches, etc.) to a "base-vest"?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xk-soKcFak&feature=player_detailpage#t=146

 

I'm sorry, with my poor english is for me impossible to explain the complexity of this system on words(is not so complex, is only that my english really sucks..), so I will put it with a video and an english speaker, a lot faster and you guys don't have to translate my hieroglyphs.

This video explain it pretty well, and stay pretty simple.

Now think of the video, but with every pouches you can need. There is magazine molle pouches, canteen molle pounches, Holsters (Even made of leather, you only have to use the main system with leather strips), utility pouches of vary dimension, even folding stretchers! (Yeah, little fanboy of this system..)

Edited February 5, 2014 by Karond

[DURRHUNTER 597]

FREAKING DUALWEILD

this^

[irishroy 1347]

 

The only problem is, I'm not sure if the ArmA engine is able to animate a long coat, never see something similar on this engine, hope they can work a way to it. (Hear they are working on a new physics system here on the forum)

Btw, the western style survivor, I see it better wearing "Wellies", the brown damaged ones look like leather and avoid the "middle age" man aspect. (Sorry, the leatherslipper was worn by my grandpa years ago, and I'm still laughing thinking of a survivor treating me with that shoes on.)

Rocket said something about physics and glitching through the legs, when moving, etc.

But once they have a better engine, which detects the legs, and and coat will react to the legs movements, they will implement.

Right now, there would be a clipping-problem with the legs, though.

 

I guess i'll have to find these brown wellies xD

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xk-soKcFak&feature=player_detailpage#t=146

 

Cool, thanks for the vid!

 

 

 

Dualwield

this^

But they would have to make the guns/the player very very inaccurate, i think.

Try to aim with two pythons, FNXs or even 2 sawn off shotties in each hand xD

Edited February 5, 2014 by irishroy

[irishroy 1347]

Hat conirmed from Chris torchia

 

Edited February 6, 2014 by irishroy

[Karond 0]

Hat conirmed from Chris torchia

 

Good good, now we have only to wait for the rest. *Excellent*

 

Hoping in a "Indiana Jones" variant for this one, more "easy to match" than the black one. :P

Edit: Wow, missed that brown one. Definily better on my opinion. I think that brown hat is worn, if you notice the black hat don't have sign or scrap on it, almost brand new, when the brown one look "used", so i think that is the worn state.

Edited February 6, 2014 by Karond

[irishroy 1347]

there's also a brown one

 

 

i wonder how they look, when worn, damaged, badly damaged or ruined :>

Edited February 6, 2014 by irishroy

[irishroy 1347]

http://www.reddit.com/r/dayz/comments/1x6r0u/some_new_clothing_we_have_here/

 

[DaedalRogue 83]

I've never Ever seen a holster like that, Diagonal on the chest. It looks awful and feels awful.

 

That style of chest holster has existed for awhile and was popular with Helo pilots during Vietnam conflict and even some still in use it today.

 

For the most part that style has been replaced with people using MOLLE holsters aligned that way on the front of their LBV/PCV.

[irishroy 1347]

Thanks for the leatherjacket and the hat!

I like it a lot!

;)

 

leather-jacket:

 

 

 

Cowboy/Western-hats:

Edited February 7, 2014 by irishroy

[irishroy 1347]

fail.

ignore.

Edited February 7, 2014 by irishroy

[JumpinJax 9]

Jo I would like to have some of that stuff, especially the Duster. I alsy thougt they could do a special scope for the Blaser like shown here:

 

 

Maybe with a rangefinder like the PSO1

 

Also i thought of some crossed ammo belts, which have a belt attached with some pouches, for some extra storage space.

 

 

And also a bandit hankerchief (or whatever they are called):

 

[irishroy 1347]

aaaand he found my thread :>

 

face-bandanas (bandit handkerchiefs) aren't in the making, but definitively an option.

 

A scope just 4 Shotgun(&slugs)and Blaser 95 would be really cool. Like PU for Mosin and SKS.

 

Ammobelts are a cool idea, too, yes.

[JumpinJax 9]

Yeah I thought that the Scope might be an alternative to the LRS for the Blaser for a bit more of a western feel. Dunno if anyone would stick that on a Shotgun :P

And maybe a Courier Bag, as I've nerver seen a Cowboy with a backpack

Edited February 13, 2014 by JumpinJax

[irishroy 1347]

a courierbag is burlapsack+rope

 

add sticks:

[JumpinJax 9]

Yeah but I mean a bag that you carry on your shoulder, but he carries the improvised courier Backpack on his back.

And a bowie knife would be good too.

Edited February 13, 2014 by JumpinJax

[irishroy 1347]

bumpittybump :>