Why not three hour dayz?

[hefeweizen 254]

I just assume that when i log off, my character finds an empty house, (maybe a regular one where he stores his books), barricades the doors and sleeps and reads books. When i log on, he'll be at the place where i left him, ready to get more food and stuff.

 

People wouldn't just fall down where they are in the middle of a field, and fall asleep to be munched on by zombies. They find shelter.

This assumption would be okay if you had the chance to be eaten in your sleep, what do you expect your haphazard barricades would stand up to an army of undead while you sleep soundly? In what zombie movie has that ever worked in?

[Greaves 131]

This assumption would be okay if you had the chance to be eaten in your sleep, what do you expect your haphazard barricades would stand up to an army of undead while you sleep soundly? In what zombie movie has that ever worked in?

 

First episode of the Walking Dead. 

 

If you sneak into the house, zombies won't know you're there. It's not like he makes a lot of noise.

Besides, it's one of the remote houses. Not many zombies around.

Edited January 9, 2014 by Greaves

[hefeweizen 254]

First episode of the Walking Dead. 

 

If you sneak into the house, zombies won't know you're there. It's not like he makes a lot of noise.

Besides, it's one of the remote houses. Not many zombies around.

That was the same house every night, and his son died anyway.

[Greaves 131]

That was the same house every night, and his son died anyway.

 

Thanks for that spoiler, i'm at ep. 4 Season 1.

 

Now i don't know if i can come back to this thread, people might troll me with other spoilers.

Edited January 9, 2014 by Greaves

[hefeweizen 254]

Thanks for that spoiler, i'm at ep. 4 Season 1.

 

Now i don't know if i can come back to this thread, people might troll me with other spoilers.

Dumbledore dies and Vader is Luke's father. 

Also, you're not allowed to be ticked about spoilers that are more than a year old.

[Window Licker 504]

Fix the gamma/clouds off and other things to lighten the night, throw in the ocassional pair of night vision goggles, should make life better on night servers. My first 9 hrs of game was on a night server

[Karmaterror 982]

The universal one size fits all solution....for everything....private hives ;)

 

Controlled by a "shard" of the main database they will be un-modable, and you plain wont be able to run away from things like...

 

Combat

Night time

Areas that have already been looted

 

Basicaly give us private hives! then all of it goes away :)

[hefeweizen 254]

The universal one size fits all solution....for everything....private hives ;)

 

Controlled by a "shard" of the main database they will be un-modable, and you plain wont be able to run away from things like...

 

Combat

Night time

Areas that have already been looted

 

Basicaly give us private hives! then all of it goes away :)

As long as they aren't modable, I agree. Nothing was worse for the mod than the "24/7 Days! 1000+ Vehicles! Barracks in Every town! M4 Loadout! This Server is Pretty Much Arma 2 with Zombies!" servers.

[floj 393]

The universal one size fits all solution....for everything....private hives ;)

 

Controlled by a "shard" of the main database they will be un-modable, and you plain wont be able to run away from things like...

 

Combat

Night time

Areas that have already been looted

 

Basicaly give us private hives! then all of it goes away :)

Why not just ensure the public hives work as intended for the major playerbase? Don't really see why everyone has to play on a private hive and put up with *potential* admin abuse to experience DayZ properly. Private hives are the easy way out, better to make the public hive have proper gameplay in the first place and leave the private hives for the weak that can't cope with night-time.

[ZomboWTF 527]

I love playing on night servers to gear up

 

also the gamma+brightness settings make it day anyways, which is a shame (i'd love to be forced using a flashlight in nighttime)

[razguul@gmail.com 80]

I will never play on a night server, it is in no way fun and just a terrible waste of time running around in pitch dark woods. Putting all servers on the same clock will just make me stop playing during night shift.

[hefeweizen 254]

I will never play on a night server, it is in no way fun and just a terrible waste of time running around in pitch dark woods. Putting all servers on the same clock will just make me stop playing during night shift.

I feel like people like this are the minority. That given the option people flock to 24/7 day servers, but if you made it not possible to cheat the system so that you never play have to play night time most people would still play.

[floj 393]

I will never play on a night server, it is in no way fun and just a terrible waste of time running around in pitch dark woods. Putting all servers on the same clock will just make me stop playing during night shift.

That's because night-time is badly implemented for now...(try the gamma trick and it goes too far the opposite way, like playing in black and white daytime)... but as already mentioned, if you keep the actual dead of night to a minimal 30-60mins, you could go make yourself some dinner, play a different game or just play a 24/7 daylightprivate hive until the sun starts to rise on the public one again. It's why I suggested having long periods of twilight and long sunrise/sunsets rather than a 50/50 split of blinding daylight and pitchblack night.

 

At the end of the day (pun intended) it IS upto you if you want to avoid a feature of the game the devs are making for us :rolleyes:

[Karmaterror 982]

Why not just ensure the public hives work as intended for the major playerbase? Don't really see why everyone has to play on a private hive and put up with *potential* admin abuse to experience DayZ properly. Private hives are the easy way out, better to make the public hive have proper gameplay in the first place and leave the private hives for the weak that can't cope with night-time.

 

The only advantages to the public hive are for people that want to swap server to ghost or loot. nd il give ya the "i loose my stuff if my server dissapers" thing. But pretty much every major problem could be cured by private hives. Admin abuse can happen just as easily on public hive servers. 

 

And huh?? a private hive would force you to play at night. You wouldnt be able to just swap servers for a day one. When night falls thats it....its night...no running from it :P

[floj 393]

And huh?? a private hive would force you to play at night. You wouldnt be able to just swap servers for a day one. When night falls thats it....its night...no running from it :P

That's why I already suggested locking all public hive servers onto the same cycle...why just have that feature in private hives? Have it where the main playerbase is gonna be. Scaredy-cats who don't like the night can go play on a 24/7 daylight private hive... think we're on the same page but one of us is reading it backwards :)

[antonioajc 500]

Damn it, said something that would probably be off topic and now I want to delete this post. Can't find the option. Don't know why we can report our own posts. Perhaps they could replace it with a delete function?

Edited January 9, 2014 by AntonioAJC

[floj 393]

This again. It's not going to work. People that are playing in the nightime due to having a life will be screwed when they want to play a daytime server.

Which is why I already mentioned a 20hr cycle...so that no matter when your normal gaming time, you get a variety of light conditions

[Karmaterror 982]

That's why I already suggested locking all public hive servers onto the same cycle...why just have that feature in private hives? Have it where the main playerbase is gonna be. Scaredy-cats who don't like the night can go play on a 24/7 daylight private hive... think we're on the same page but one of us is reading it backwards :)

 

Locking every server presents problems. Some peoples window to  play would only allow them to play at night....or day. Thats a bit unfair imo. As i understand it server admins wont have access to the server files...so messing with servers like putting on 24 day cycle wont be possible. If it does work like that and they carnt mod them, they would be puuuuurfect :)

 

Personaly i like to find one where i can start my play session in the late afternoon, and play till its been dark for a while. Then i get both :)

Edited January 9, 2014 by Karmaterror

[floj 393]

Locking every server presents problems. Some peoples window to  play would only allow them to play at night....or day. Thats a bit unfair imo. As i understand it server admins wont have access to the server files...so messing with servers like putting on 24 day cycle wont be possible. If it does work like that and they carnt mod them, they would be puuuuurfect :)

 

Personaly i like to find one where i can start my play session in the late afternoon, and play till its been dark for a while. Then i get both :)

 

Which is why I already mentioned a 20hr cycle...so that no matter when your normal gaming time, you get a variety of light conditions

 

One post above dammit (and on the first page of the topic as well)...do people ever read threads anymore or just post their opinions regardless of what's been discussed already? Might have to do an idiot's guide to foruming

 

EDIT: btw Karma, nothing personal, just seems that 50+% of my posts are reiterating exactly the same ideas to people that haven't read threads :)

Edited January 9, 2014 by phlOgistOn

[hefeweizen 254]

Locking every server presents problems. Some peoples window to  play would only allow them to play at night....or day. Thats a bit unfair imo. As i understand it server admins wont have access to the server files...so messing with servers like putting on 24 day cycle wont be possible. If it does work like that and they carnt mod them, they would be puuuuurfect :)

 

Personaly i like to find one where i can start my play session in the late afternoon, and play till its been dark for a while. Then i get both :)

Please re-read OP. I already addressed concerns about some peoples window only allowing them to play at day or night. You'd have to lock every server to a day that is either longer or shorter than a real day. That way a persons "window" would be a different time of day in game each time they logged in.

[Karmaterror 982]

Please re-read OP. I already addressed concerns about some peoples window only allowing them to play at day or night. You'd have to lock every server to a day that is either longer or shorter than a real day. That way a persons "window" would be a different time of day in game each time they logged in.

 

Yeah i shoulda started with why im against short day nights lol. For me, with the way the engine works, the light is always changing. There is no set "day" lighting or set "night" lighting. The sun and moon pass over the map and thats where our light comes from. 

 

The problem with a faster day/night is that the shadows and stuff would move very quick. The way night decends would look all gamey and unnatural, AKA Fallout or Skyrim. And because the light is dynamicly changing then the stages would pop up too quickly with rushed obvious transitions. 

 

Your solution does work to have them play during day and night. For me its an imersion breaker though ;)

[Karmaterror 982]

One post above dammit (and on the first page of the topic as well)...do people ever read threads anymore or just post their opinions regardless of what's been discussed already? Might have to do an idiot's guide to foruming

 

EDIT: btw Karma, nothing personal, just seems that 50+% of my posts are reiterating exactly the same ideas to people that haven't read threads :)

 

Dont worry i know what that feels like, and apologies, take in so much when reading round forums i forget things sometimes....

 

Iv even posted a long ass reply....in the wrong thread once lol

 

Il try and keep up better :)

[Nauticus 3]

I'd like to see a faster day-cycle. We have wonderfull games like Elder scrolls, Skyrim, and even minecraft, that has a good day`/night cycle. It is an experience to see the sun go up in the morning, knowing that you survived another night.

If we kept a 24h cycle most players who plays on primetime-hours will only experience one of night, dusk/dawn, or day depending on where they live or where the server is, some players would never experience the situation of planning when to move or how to move during different times of the day. Even planning and executing offensive/defensive manouvers will have consequenses based on the time of day.

It's a part of surival and keeping a day/night cycle withing 2-5 hours will affect the game experience in many positive ways for everyone. The only negative part of a shorter cycle would be crying hardcore fans.

[PabloFajita 11]

Nighttime in this game seems to color band for me making it look really awful, which is probably why I avoid them...

[Rantanplan 18]

I virtually closed the same topic yesterday with my post, let me try it again :P

 

 

People have to understand that day/night cycle, sun, moon, stars positions are all correctly simulated in the game!

We have an autumn map that is located at 45°N 30°E (if it has not changed from the original Chernarus). Autumn implies that we are near autumn Equinox or later, so nights are about equal or longer than days.

You can also navigate by sun or stars, or you build your own little Stonehenge for sun observation and date definition (until server restart) ^_^

However, if you start messing with day/night cycle, you will complicate or make it near impossible to do such things.

So my vote goes to 24h cycles.

 

With that said, I also want to have free reign on when my char is active, whether he is a night owl or an early bird.

 

It could be made that (hardcore!) way, that every change in time zone consumes an appropriate level of your nutrition level. That way you could always jump time zones as you like, as long as you are still well-fed; before you really join you could get a warning that it would make you starving if you enter a certain server. (worst case would be a 23h jump)

It could also be an interesting option to beach the player at a random time (=server) and only once he has achieved a certain level of nutrition, he may change to his preferred time zone/server (hey, his friends could come and pick him up and bring some food and drinks along)...

Of course, the time would have to be clearly visible in the server browser.

Interesting options for role-playing, probably less so for PvP focussed players, or private servers/hives :P

An issue to solve would be how you carry over vehicles/stashes etc.

 

I added the last point a bit later, but rethinking it, one could consider the server-bound cars/stashes an "incentive" to play on your favorite server despite nighttime.

"Custom" day/night confiugurations should be limited to private servers/hives. Public servers on the global hive should run the correct day/night cycle.

Edited January 9, 2014 by Rantanplan