Harries Technique Applied to Torches and Combat Knives

[Space Milk 195]

I would like to see the addition of the Harries Technique applies to the starting torch and combat knife with a handgun.

If you don't know what it is, here you go.

 

I am not sure if there is already a combat knife added to the game as I have not seen one, but adding it would be useful if this idea is added.

I know there is a weapon flashlight, but I don't think you can add it to handguns.  It would be nice to light my way through a building, while carrying a pistol as well so I am not screwed if a player pops up or a zombie claws at me.  This would work well with a knife too, allowing me to dish a quick powerful bleeding attack to my opponent.  This makes pistols far more versatile and useful, if they aren't already.  If a player does not already have a combat knife, they could use a kitchen knife, although that wouldn't be too useful.

Of course, this might require a new button.  If there isn't already, a melee, or alternate melee button should be added.

On axes, wrenches, crowbars, it would use a alternate and weaker "puncture" style hit from the bottom. Like hitting someone with the bottom of the axe, not the blade, and pushing it straight, not overhead.  With knives, it could, instead of slash, do a quick stab, but has lower DPS.  With rifles and handguns, it could do a weak attack with the butt of a weapon.  

 

 

[doublebrain 255]

You should lose a decent amount of accuracy when using this technique but I support the idea of having both, a gun and a lightsource, at a time because switching tools in a tricky situation takes simply too much time.

[Ymath 30]

Neat idea for the flashlight, I don't think it would be overly useful for the knives though.

I'll stick with my fireaxe :)

[chompster 171]

You should lose a decent amount of accuracy when using this technique but I support the idea of having both, a gun and a lightsource, at a time because switching tools in a tricky situation takes simply too much time.

That doesn't really make sense since you actually are more stable when using the harrier technique. Recoil would be stronger though.

Though i don't think you should get a accuracy increase, it definitely shouldn't be lowered either.

 

Very nice idea btw, really hope they consider it and it eventually makes it in.

Edited January 6, 2014 by Chompster

[AP_Norris 1018]

I just saw a thing on Reddit that had found a combat knife in the files.

[Dooms_Day (DayZ) 8]

Maybe give high accuracy on your first shot and then a minimal accuracy increase if shots are fired quickly afterwards?

[o_grande_rafael 24]

like it, but as said, drop acuracy. remember: you are not a cop that had training with the technic. you saw it on the movies. the avatar is the looser king of the otakus.

[dubghall 36]

I like this idea too... doesn't really make sense to limit someone's visibility so much unnecessarily - if you have a weapon you should be able to use it with your flashlight using this technique.  The big diff in melee though would be range in my opinion the short jab actually being shorter threatening distance than the swipe....

 

[chompster 171]

I just saw a thing on Reddit that had found a combat knife in the files.

combat knifes are already in the game (m4 bayonet)

 

 

like it, but as said, drop acuracy. remember: you are not a cop that had training with the technic. you saw it on the movies. the avatar is the looser king of the otakus.

so? just because you don't have any training with it doesn't mean that it isn't naturally more stable. which it is, just try it yourself.

 

going by that line of thinking you shouldn't be able to swap things the M4 either since most people have never even held a M4 in their life let a lone dis/assembled one. 

[Monkfish (DayZ) 339]

Nice idea. One thing I've noticed about DayZ that separates it from other games is that night time is actually pitch black on times. Most other games just turn the brightness down a bit and give everything a blue glow. Not in DayZ though, oh no.

 

Being able to only see or shoot is quite restrictive in terms of gameplay though. I support the idea of using Harries Technique providing subsequent shots suffer from more recoil compared to holding a gun with both hands (the first shot being as accurate as two handed firing). Powerful revolvers should obviously suffer quite badly from recoil too. But at least you can squeeze shots off and be able to see what you're shooting at.
 

[forddefect 14]

Maybe you current character could learn the technique from a book or taught it by a fellow survivor. Obviously you forget it when dead.

[rickenbacker 190]

That doesn't really make sense since you actually are more stable when using the harrier technique. Recoil would be stronger though.

Though i don't think you should get a accuracy increase, it definitely shouldn't be lowered either.

 

Not by much, but perhaps a little bit. This is most definitely NOT more stable than a proper two-handed grip, and as the linked text says, it utilizes muscles that you don't normally use, and you get tired faster.

[bummel313 12]

Not by much, but perhaps a little bit. This is most definitely NOT more stable than a proper two-handed grip, and as the linked text says, it utilizes muscles that you don't normally use, and you get tired faster.

Matter of fact is it might look like a two-handed firing position but it is a single-handed firing position.

So you have less accuracy and more recoil/less controll of recoil.

 

If implemented (which is quite a good idea) please dont do it wrong (as on the linked page).

When using the Harries technique the flashlight is pretty much on the right side of your gun (if youre righthanded).

So you pretty much twist the flashlight hand around your gun hand, so that the backs of your hands touch each other.

[Space Milk 195]

Nice to see that you guys like the idea!

In reality, since you are holding the handgun with one hand, I would imagine that you'd probably experience more kick/recoil, but less sway since your arm serves as your bipod to say the least. This can be translated to game terms, but I just want to see this added, regardless of what negatives/positives are going to be added. I just want to shoot while being able to see at night.

[bummel313 12]

Nice to see that you guys like the idea!

In reality, since you are holding the handgun with one hand, I would imagine that you'd probably experience more kick/recoil, but less sway since your arm serves as your bipod to say the least. This can be translated to game terms, but I just want to see this added, regardless of what negatives/positives are going to be added. I just want to shoot while being able to see at night.

 

Dont want to go into detail too much, but thats not true. A bipod gives you stability because it utilizes a fixed surface i.e. the ground. Your second hand cant give you that stability.

Been a gun instructor with the german airborne infantry. So you just have to believe me the Harries technique is a single handed firing position and you dont "deploy" your gun/gun-arm on your flashlight-arm.

 

But as mentioned before I still like the idea of implementing handheld flashlight techniques to the game...

[SFRGaming 718]

You should lose a decent amount of accuracy when using this technique but I support the idea of having both, a gun and a lightsource, at a time because switching tools in a tricky situation takes simply too much time.

Why should you lose accuracy when your left arm is stabilizing the pistol?