Timberwolf (DayZ) 118 Posted June 22, 2012 No, this is not an anti-bandit thread, it is a thread regarding the devolution of the bandits due to the sudden growth of the community which brought many trigger happy PVP assholes.Being a bandit used to be one of the many paths to take for survival. Killing a survivor because you don't want the risk of him killing yourself first, killing to get supplies, killing for that awesome gear that guy was carrying...But now most bandits are killing just for fun or no reason whatsoever. This new "killing for the lulz bandits" are just posers, they are not true bandits as I defined them. For me this is not what it was meant to be like.It is not even a matter of what mechanisms are added to the game regarding PVP, it is a matter of a specific mentality that a large percentage of the arriving players carry with them, deciding to play for the selfish benefit and amusement of themselves rather than playing for the the greater good of the DayZ experience.Two quick examples that while very specific do tell the general story of the bandit behavior before and after the arriving of the new players.Example of bandit behavior before the player boom: Example of bandit behavior after the player boom:http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=18253Please discuss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thealgerian 2 Posted June 22, 2012 As I say all the time here, most people who kill on sight are morons who are bored of CoD and found in Day Z a 225km² deathmatch game even easier since some people either don't have guns or don't shoot on sight.All those "it's zombie outbreak, people do crazy stuff" is complete BS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
armadayz 0 Posted June 22, 2012 "before the CoD kiddies come...."Oh look, the time is now, they have already arrived. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redreversed 2 Posted June 22, 2012 The reason people kill for fun in Dayz is because there isn't just much to it.You find a weapon, some beans and then you go look for more beans and weapons.And after you find them?Go look for more beans and weapons, maybe build a car.And then what are you gonna do with that car?You're going to use it to get more beans and weapons.There's no real objective except survive, but in this mod surviving at the moment has no real depth and gets boring easily.People want to have some fun with their toys, and zombies are boring to fight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blown4Six 48 Posted June 22, 2012 If I get the drop on people, I usually KOS just because that's what everyone else does, and I'm not about to lose all of my gear that took hours to aquire, JUST to see if someone is friendly. I don't really care, all I'm worried about is surviving and keeping the 5 others I play with alive as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk24 94 Posted June 22, 2012 (...)CoD(...)All those "it's zombie outbreak' date=' people do crazy stuff" is complete BS.[/quote']Considering that you mention CoD in your post, your post is complete BSBy using CoD as "argument", you prove that you have no argument to start withOntopic:"Most bandits"....err....yeahYou mean "the 'bandits' that I see on the forums/youtube"Or are you actually able to tell if someone was a bandit or a bandit poser if you get shot?I mean...you get no notification if your corpse is looted afterwardsI don't kill "for tha lulz", why waste ammo if you're not going to loot his corpse anyway?The only time I did go on a tower and randomly sniped survivors was when I was directing a buddy to the corpses, he got off clean with a shit ton of gearThere will ALWAYS be players that kill for the sake of killing alone...deal with itAnd please, leave CoD out of the way, you just make yourself look stupid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yeung-Jin 28 Posted June 22, 2012 "before the CoD kiddies come...."Oh look' date=' the time is now, they have already arrived.[/quote']this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
armadayz 0 Posted June 22, 2012 The reason people kill for fun in Dayz is because there isn't just much to it.You find a weapon' date=' some beans and then you go look for more beans and weapons.And after you find them?Go look for more beans and weapons, maybe build a car.And then what are you gonna do with that car?You're going to use it to get more beans and weapons.There's no real objective except survive, but in this mod surviving at the moment has no real depth and gets boring easily.[/quote']Still unexcusable and poser banditry. Funny how bandits say "This isnt the game for you carebear" etc, when they only play as a bandit because they are bored with the games actual purpose and mechanics. Then these same people turn around and try to claim they are not damaging the game and its reputation, and that they aren't only boasting their own hidden agenda. They just post on this forum to make it as deathmatch as possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaggeh@gmail.com 0 Posted June 22, 2012 As I say all the time here' date=' most people who kill on sight are morons who are bored of CoD and found in Day Z a 225km² deathmatch game even easier since some people either don't have guns or don't shoot on sight.All those "it's zombie outbreak, people do crazy stuff" is complete BS.[/quote']I kill those i do not know on sight.Why?Because i am a survivor.If your corpse has useful things i will take them.Why?because i am a survivor.By your definition i am a bandit. by my definition i am a survivor.This thread as all the others before it regarding this topic are pointless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Timberwolf (DayZ) 118 Posted June 22, 2012 The reason people kill for fun in Dayz is because there isn't just much to it.You find a weapon' date=' some beans and then you go look for more beans and weapons.And after you find them?Go look for more beans and weapons, maybe build a car.And then what are you gonna do with that car?You're going to use it to get more beans and weapons.There's no real objective except survive, but in this mod surviving at the moment has no real depth and gets boring easily.People want to have some fun with their toys, and zombies are boring to fight.[/quote']Try to do something productive like helping survivors or new players, stop playing until new features arrive, join a group, etc.That is no excuse to ruin even more the ambiance of the mod. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
armadayz 0 Posted June 22, 2012 Considering that you mention CoD in your post' date=' your post is complete BSBy using CoD as "argument", you prove that you have no argument to start with[/quote']Considering that you didnt even read his post, to see that he never mentioned CoD, you have no argument to start with. When I quoted that I was quoting the general tone of these forums from a few weeks ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redreversed 2 Posted June 22, 2012 Still unexcusable and poser banditry. Funny how bandits say "This isnt the game for you carebear" etc, when they only play as a bandit because they are bored with the games actual purpose and mechanics. Then these same people turn around and try to claim they are not damaging the game and its reputation, and that they aren't only boasting their own hidden agenda. They just post on this forum to make it as deathmatch as possible.It is excusable.There is no real purpose and the game mechanics are still in their infancy.There just isn't much to do, and the surviving gets shallow quite fast until there is more to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blt 1 Posted June 22, 2012 There are two types of bandits like you said; but I think of them differently;Those who sit on a roof in the coastal areas sniping people who obviously won't have anythingThose who are smart, track and hunt people down that aren't near the coast, or if they do, do it in such a different way that it is proper banditry, rather than sniping say, chopping them to death with an axe or other, more fun methods. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk24 94 Posted June 22, 2012 he never mentioned CoDAs I say all the time here' date=' most people who kill on sight are [u']morons who are bored of CoD and found in Day Z a 225km² deathmatch game even easier since some people either don't have guns or don't shoot on sight.He didn't mention CoD....uhm...sure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Timberwolf (DayZ) 118 Posted June 22, 2012 Ontopic:"Most bandits"....err....yeahYou mean "the 'bandits' that I see on the forums/youtube"Or are you actually able to tell if someone was a bandit or a bandit poser if you get shot?I mean...you get no notification if your corpse is looted afterwardsI don't kill "for tha lulz"' date=' why waste ammo if you're not going to loot his corpse anyway?The only time I did go on a tower and randomly sniped survivors was when I was directing a buddy to the corpses, he got off clean with a shit ton of gearThere will ALWAYS be players that kill for the sake of killing alone...deal with itAnd please, leave CoD out of the way, you just make yourself look stupid[/quote']I am sorry but I don't need to see if someone looted my corpse or to know why did he shoot me to make my point since if you followed the community since the early stages you will see that both the forums and the in-game experience are completely different. You don't even need to show it, you can simply feel it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blasty 0 Posted June 22, 2012 I kill on sight and for fun and I've never played CoD more than 10 minutes. I hated CoD, too much random shit on the screen constantly.. I enjoy the thrill of the hunt.. Stalking someone through the woods who has no clue that i'm behind him... he finally stops to pull his binocs out and scouts out a town.. i sit behind him with my m24 and wait to catch my breath.. i place the shot carefull and blow his head off.. now I have an m107... GOD I LOVE THIS GAME! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vanilladragon 1 Posted June 22, 2012 you cant blame them, there is nothing else to do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Timberwolf (DayZ) 118 Posted June 22, 2012 I kill on sight and for fun and I've never played CoD more than 10 minutes. I hated CoD' date=' too much random shit on the screen constantly.. I enjoy the thrill of the hunt.. Stalking someone through the woods who has no clue that i'm behind him... he finally stops to pull his binocs out and scouts out a town.. i sit behind him with my m24 and wait to catch my breath.. i place the shot carefull and blow his head off.. now I have an m107... GOD I LOVE THIS GAME![/quote']I completely understand what you mean, I really do. But doing it for fun in DayZ? Why? YOU HAVE ARMA 2, why don't you play on a PvP server in which the purpose is to kill? DayZ is capable of bringing much more than that to the table and that is what I'm complaining about, we are narrowing the possibilities of the mod. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blasty 0 Posted June 22, 2012 I honestly never played ARMA 2, i bought the game for the mod.. and since I like it so much I really want to support it, so I keep playing it. In ARMA 2 you don't really work for your gear either, you just spawn with it like every other shooter, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mars (DayZ) 6 Posted June 22, 2012 Survivors do not like bandits, bandits tell them to learn to play and to deal with it.Bandits do not like some other bandits, guess what!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redreversed 2 Posted June 22, 2012 I completely understand what you mean, I really do. But doing it for fun in DayZ? Why? YOU HAVE ARMA 2, why don't you play on a PvP server in which the purpose is to kill? DayZ is capable of bringing much more than that to the table and that is what I'm complaining about, we are narrowing the possibilities of the mod.Because its not the same.Its different when you got great high end equipment, when you've got whole squads of soldiers, when you know you're out to kill them and they're out to kill you.No matter if its still arma 2, its a different experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk24 94 Posted June 22, 2012 YOU HAVE ARMA 2' date=' why don't you play on a PvP server in which the purpose is to kill? DayZ is capable of bringing much more than that to the table and that is what I'm complaining about, we are narrowing the possibilities of the mod.[/quote']As if working together with complete strangers would be a major part of the game being cut away Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
armadayz 0 Posted June 22, 2012 he never mentioned CoDAs I say all the time here' date=' most people who kill on sight are [u']morons who are bored of CoD and found in Day Z a 225km² deathmatch game even easier since some people either don't have guns or don't shoot on sight.He didn't mention CoD....uhm...sureOh woops I thought you were replying to OP because your quote was all weird. Anyways dont take the CoD thing so personally, im sure not all of you are stupid little kids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RB30E 4 Posted June 22, 2012 yeah im getting sick of it, i've been killed about 10 times just from people pretending to be friendly asking for help then when i help them they kill me and take my stuff. Whats the fucking point of asking for help if you were going to kill me anyway? just say im not friendly and if i dont leave kill me then dont ask for help then as soon as i turn my back and say good bye dont shoot or stab me in the back with a hatchet. so pathetic it put me of the game and if i do go bac the only people i wont shoot are my mates ill just kill everyone i see because its rediculas. Hope this doesnt kill the mod because its very promising and looks to have a good future if everyone does the right thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blasty 0 Posted June 22, 2012 I find it funny that the argument against banditry is that people should go play CoD.. when most people I know who play CoD troll this game/mod because they can't "earn objectives" or "it's too hard" or "why would you want to play a realistic game"It's hilarious how one persons opinions can make no sense to someone with completely different observations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites