Item condition - Worst idea ever

[irzero 56]

I have to say Rocket....

 

When i read your reddit about adding this system in to the game i thought it was a stupid idea then... after playing the game for 48 hours i have confirmed that it was a stupid idea and i was right all along.

 

At best id hoped it was a later stage change that wouldnt affect the alpha but out of all the cool parts of the mod that you could have added such as vehicles, hunting and camps.... noooo you had to add this shit first.

 

After spending 2 days collecting all my stuff i get shot once or twice and manage to get away without to much damage. i then go to fire my weapon and click click... its broken and name is red in top corner. I pull out my Pistol and Click click... thats dead too.... and my Magnum??? You guessed it... Its fucked too!.

 

Oh and both my jacket and vest and back pack and 90% of stuff inside is ruined also!.

 

Oh and basically PVP is dead now because looting people is pointless because all their shit is ruined too. its basically just murder for fun... I shot someone in the head and all his gear was ruined too.... 

 

This game has become a chore to play. Its not fun when you log out with a perfectly working Mosin and log back into to find it no longer fires... (my friend) Seriously whats the point... The gun is now useless. Total BS. There are WW2 guns that work perfectly after 60 years and seen combat many times. A jacket is not ruined by a bullet hole!

 

Oh and dont get me started on blood types ffs. 

 

Rant over.

[green_machine 179]

it's not an aspect of the game that has been tweaked. 

Post this 1 year from now... it will be a pointless post. 

I shot my friend accidentally, 3x with a pistol... ALL his gear wrecked. His boots to his Helmet. That's fine, it's Alpha. When it's Beta, then please complain more, if it's not tweaked by then, you have every right to complain.

Blood types are fine. If they weren't, they'd might as well put in stimpacks, Potions or Magic Mushrooms  

[Leto (DayZ) 72]

Last time I checked, handguns had no conditions.

Edited January 3, 2014 by Leto

[chasieboy317 17]

The item condition forces you to handcuff and rob the player instead of just shooting him. Shooting them can be fun but handcuffing them is much more exciting. This way the gear will be in pristine condition when you loot him. Shooting players in the head works fine and does not damage anything below (you probably just shot at the top of the shirt collar, hence the damage). However I don't like the fact that ONE bullet can damage EVERYTHING in your backpack. I assume that because it's Alpha, he is still planning improve it and hopefully my assumption comes into practice.

[Gdaddy22 299]

 

 

 

Oh and basically PVP is dead now because looting people is pointless because all their shit is ruined too. its basically just murder for fun... I shot someone in the head and all his gear was ruined too.... 

 

 

 

Shoot in the head ? i believe the gear is not ruined then, i shot many people in the head and their gear was untouched

Edited January 3, 2014 by Gdaddy22

[CyberVillain (DayZ) 17]

I shoot my buddy in the stomach with a mosin (he walked in front of my barrel when I was taking down a z). I had to give him a saline shot and his combat jacket was ruined, other than that all was prestine. I guess he was lucky

[nazar.nk90@gmail.com 11]

I have to say Rocket....

 

When i read your reddit about adding this system in to the game i thought it was a stupid idea then... after playing the game for 48 hours i have confirmed that it was a stupid idea and i was right all along.

 

At best id hoped it was a later stage change that wouldnt affect the alpha but out of all the cool parts of the mod that you could have added such as vehicles, hunting and camps.... noooo you had to add this shit first.

 

After spending 2 days collecting all my stuff i get shot once or twice and manage to get away without to much damage. i then go to fire my weapon and click click... its broken and name is red in top corner. I pull out my Pistol and Click click... thats dead too.... and my Magnum??? You guessed it... Its fucked too!.

 

Oh and both my jacket and vest and back pack and 90% of stuff inside is ruined also!.

 

Oh and basically PVP is dead now because looting people is pointless because all their shit is ruined too. its basically just murder for fun... I shot someone in the head and all his gear was ruined too.... 

 

This game has become a chore to play. Its not fun when you log out with a perfectly working Mosin and log back into to find it no longer fires... (my friend) Seriously whats the point... The gun is now useless. Total BS. There are WW2 guns that work perfectly after 60 years and seen combat many times. A jacket is not ruined by a bullet hole!

 

Oh and dont get me started on blood types ffs. 

 

Rant over.

Although I agree that the system needs a bit of tweaking since 1 bulltet should only ruin what it hits as in, if it hits the backpack it should ruin like 50% of the items in it. Or if it hits a players leg the pants should be ruined and so on and on. But I don't agree with you going on a rant of how bugged the "ALPHA" is. It's a work in progress give it time and watch it grow.

[teufel937 49]

Things naturally break down, even after three days in the field if I don't properly take care of my m4 it can begin to rust and jam..

[Korsbaek 1778]

I am going to remind you that this is an Alpher.

 

Here: This is an Alpher.

[BelMarduk 169]

*snip*

I shot my friend accidentally, 3x with a pistol...

I lolled and lolled again... and am still lol'ing

[Nanoha 37]

I like item condition. My beans took a bullet once, saved my life. Actually I've no idea if it works that way but would be cool. I keep my pistol in my "pants" as I figure that's where it's safest. Unfortunately things are not completely unusable when ruined, I would love to see your backpack get ruined and all your stuff spill to the floor (with a status message of course so you know what's happened).

[Element47 2480]

everybody is entitled to a rant now and then.

 

i think durability is one of the best things since sliced bread but thats just me.

[Zeet. 101]

So he basically wants all the complexity out of the game, dumb it down into the shitty CoD these kiddies normally play.

[Korsbaek 1778]

So he basically wants all the complexity out of the game, dumb it down into the shitty CoD these kiddies normally play.

 

I can't wait to look at the commands list and just see one command...

 

Fire: LEFT MOUSE BUTTON

[soulesseye 35]

it's not an aspect of the game that has been tweaked. 

Post this 1 year from now... it will be a pointless post. 

I shot my friend accidentally, 3x with a pistol... ALL his gear wrecked. His boots to his Helmet. That's fine, it's Alpha. When it's Beta, then please complain more, if it's not tweaked by then, you have every right to complain.

Blood types are fine. If they weren't, they'd might as well put in stimpacks, Potions or Magic Mushrooms  

 

i like the fact everything breaks when you shoot someone it add's a thing called depth to the game something a lot of narrow minded pvp cheerleader/carebear people just dont understand(i pvp too but its not the only damn thing in the game people)

 

so i am for anything that moves away from a pure deathmatch game and makes people come together to accomplish things...also try robbing them next time guy and dont be just  another douchey pvp tard with no thought or vision.

i think we can all also agree that gear condition is pretty broken right now and does not work properly...still i dont get what your bitchin about atm really...chill smoke one or 2 like marley

Edited January 3, 2014 by soulesseye

[djporternz 644]

So he basically wants all the complexity out of the game, dumb it down into the shitty CoD these kiddies normally play

The funny (ironic) thing is that the game he wants this to be already exists. He should go play some PvP/TvT ArmA 3. There is no durability there and you don't have to worry about those pesky zombies. You get given a gun and ammo at game start, no having to scavenge for anything. No food or water requirements, although they still have fatigue in there. No bloodtyping. KoS is the ONLY imperative. Hell, even ArmA 2 is more in line with waht he wants to play.

 

So, go PVP/TvT your litte heart out in ArmA2/3 Deathmatches and let us get on with playing the game we want to play.

[gibonez 3633]

as it stands now its pretty poorly implemented.

 

Probably better off being removed than implemented in its current state. The damage model needs to be alot more detailed before its included in game.

[DubPlate 38]

Why would you complain this early in development? Get a clue man.

[Mdogg2005 447]

The item condition forces you to handcuff and rob the player instead of just shooting him. Shooting them can be fun but handcuffing them is much more exciting. This way the gear will be in pristine condition when you loot him. Shooting players in the head works fine and does not damage anything below (you probably just shot at the top of the shirt collar, hence the damage). However I don't like the fact that ONE bullet can damage EVERYTHING in your backpack. I assume that because it's Alpha, he is still planning improve it and hopefully my assumption comes into practice.

Agreed.  I like item durability.  It forces people to THINK rather than just KoS. 

[Noisex 11]

The only problem is that's totally broken at the moment and maybe, as someone already said, it could have been implemented later.
The idea is great, though.

Edited January 3, 2014 by Noisex

[Crakka 44]

Word. Remove the quality of the weapon parts. and just make the gun pristine 

[CyberVillain (DayZ) 17]

Orlok, care to explain why you deleted my post from this thread?

[Tyrael75 (DayZ) 21]

The whole point of the system is to DETER killing on sight that is the WHOLE reason why this is even in place now.

[Craux 81]

Life is hard!

I want everything to be in my favor!

I'm telling Al Sharpton that you're impeding on my creativity!

[ItsDan 2]

I think item condition is a good thing, in this post apocolyptic world, things are going to degrade or become damaged, but you are right that the mechanics are a little messy at the momment but its a pre ALPHA! You have the right to moan when the game's out, not when its in this stage.

I do have some suggestions though;

1. Perhaps when putting items in your bag, that is relevant to where it is in your bag, and then by this, shooting an area of the bag would only damage specific items in that area.

2. Some items are tougher than others, they should be able to take more damage before becoming ruined :)