These actions will only encourage to people KOS.

[Slyguy65 499]

Combat logging will be fixed the only reason its not in yet is cause they rebuilt from the ground up so all the advances they made in the mod are not really all translated over to standalone yet.

[Ghostflux 100]

I don't mind combat logging being fixed, but this is only part of the issue. Kill on sight shouldn't ever be made impossible, but it should be discouraged. As soon as the item degrading is in the game properly, it becomes less and less viable to gain items by killing. An easier way to trade or transfer items would be a big plus as well, so people are more motivated to do business as opposed to mindlessly killing. Or introducing things that can strictly be done by larger groups of players. Plenty of options, but currently bandits are given way too many advantages.

[genaknosc 9]

combat was not started, he was not shot simply aiming your gun at me doesn't put me in combat, nice try tho.

 

Actually since KOS is so prevalent, the mere act of pointing your gun at another player means that imminent combat should be assumed.

 

Ergo, because of the high prevalence of KOS, not pre-combat-logging is a virtual death sentence.

 

Effectively, it's a circular issue. KOS is prevalent because of combat logging, and combat logging is prevalent because of KOS.

 

At the root though, KOS can and will still happen even if combat (or pre-combat) logging is fixed.

[Gerandar 212]

Actually since KOS is so prevalent, the mere act of pointing your gun at another player means that imminent combat should be assumed.

 

Ergo, because of the high prevalence of KOS, not pre-combat-logging is a virtual death sentence.

 

Effectively, it's a circular issue. KOS is prevalent because of combat logging, and combat logging is prevalent because of KOS.

 

At the root though, KOS can and will still happen even if combat (or pre-combat) logging is fixed.

 

Just because you looked at me doesn't mean we are in combat unless your eyes shoot knives or something that I dont know about.

[IcyBlade 48]

There is already a solution for combat logging in the pipeline. Additionally once the zombies become more of a threat (better AI and more numerous) KOS will be reduced to possibly health levels. This would likely occur if the zombies were more of a threat than other players as they would then become a common enemy for players to form temporary alliances under. Not to mention the risk of starting a PVP fight with a load of zeds around.

 

A little patience and these already planed and partially developed features will start to take effect and will manipulate the general player behavior without forcing any one to not KOS with some awful handicap feature ect.

[Jolnir (DayZ) 5]

Ya i tried playing a bandit at first and rob people, they logged of like 80% of the time, so now i just play this game like deer hunter and i doubt i will be stopping since i know the asshole would combat log anyway if he could so he deserves to die anyway.

[sobieski12 835]

combat was not started, he was not shot simply aiming your gun at me doesn't put me in combat, nice try tho.

 

Exactly, it seems people have completely forgotten what combat logging meant.

* Back in the mod, to prevent someone from logging you would shot in the area next to the enemy player. This system mechanic would prevent players from logging in the middle of an actual gun fight. 

 

But to get around that mechanic people could just simply "Alt+F4", that was known as "combat logging".

Edited January 3, 2014 by Sobieski12

[sobieski12 835]

Ya i tried playing a bandit at first and rob people, they logged of like 80% of the time, so now i just play this game like deer hunter and i doubt i will be stopping since i know the asshole would combat log anyway if he could so he deserves to die anyway.

 

This is basically it, don't bother to role-play because the game punishes that action.

* If you really want to obtain gear, don't talk just shoot.

Edited January 3, 2014 by Sobieski12

[Vicco 123]

The guy is just taking advantage of the game mechanics.  Maybe he is just getting gear together.  Maybe he has been working to meet up with a buddy for 2 days.

Who cares?  If somebody doesn't want to talk with you, tough shit.  They can use the game mechanics to avoid you.  If they fix this, he can run away, and you can shoot him.  I don't know why people have a problem with this.    

[Noisex 11]

What's ghosting?

[Crakka 44]

Stop crying about KoS, alot of people play the game for PVP. This game would be stupid if you just hide from zombies

 

go play L4D if you want to go against zombies the entire time

Edited January 3, 2014 by Crakka

[bad_mojo (DayZ) 1204]

That's just like, your opinion, man

 

Combat logging is a valid excuse for KoS because one of the natures of this game is to be competitive for loot in order to survive. If I don't KoS you while combat logging is still possible, I take a huge risk in losing my newly found loot. We can't instantly take your stuff without killing you. We can't take your stuff slowly because it runs a high risk of combat log. Hence, until new features get implimented, you will die as soon as we see you.

 

By KoSing players, we are "dealing with it until it's fixed." This way we stop you from cheating whenever we try to take your stuff.

 

 

You know, if that was even remotely true then I would totally agree. Except this game is painfully easy to survive in currently. 99.9% of kills on sight are not to get their loot because the killer is going to die without it. You can't find a decent weapon without stumbling on some bandages/rags & food. Unless that's your goal in the game, to kill people and survive off their items.

 

Just admit you want to kill people and take their things, even if you don't need them. Don't blame it on the nature of this game. Don't try to blame it on combat loggers, just be proud of who you are and what you do. You're a murdering psychopath and you kill anyone you see.

 

By KOS all people until logging is fixed, you're acting like a spoiled child who throws a tantrum and turns over the table when they don't like how the game is going. You're getting frustrated at combat loggers & lack of fixes, and instead of being mature and saying "it's alpha, it'll be fixed eventually" and trying to find some fun, you're taking out your frustrations on other people who might or might not have anything to do with the problem.

 

Am I frustrated at being killed on sight? Nah, it doesn't really bother me. But, it does frustrate me when you guys try to justify it in this way on these forums. Let's pretend my brother died to an overdose, should I get a gun and go kill all the drug dealers I can find? Surely, they're all bad people because they probably lace their shit with bad stuff that will cause their customers to overdoes... so I'm justified in killing those people right? Because my brother overdosed on some bad drugs? No, because drug dealers are all different, some can be decent human beings, other can be dickheads who don't care if their customers die.

 

It's the same with killing on sight because you think EVERYONE combat logs. You're making an assumption that isn't always correct, and then getting all defensive when I point that out. You're not doing a service to this community, you're simply pissing people off by killing on sight.

[MakeThemListen 51]

"That is what I am trying to say, but it seems people don't understand the term "combat logging"."

 

IRL if you aim a gun at some it is legally assault. 

Edited January 4, 2014 by MakeThemListen

[MakeThemListen 51]

Listen to all these pussy fucking combat-loggers defending their pussy actions. You guys should be ashamed. 

[MakeThemListen 51]

Just because you looked at me doesn't mean we are in combat unless your eyes shoot knives or something that I dont know about.

 

Confirmed combat-logger....

[IcyBlade 48]

Stop crying about KoS, alot of people play the game for PVP. This game would be stupid if you just hide from zombies

 

go play L4D if you want to go against zombies the entire time

 

WTF are you talking about, its called DayZ you pillock, of course there are going to be zombies and of course they are going to be a threat.