The Water Bottle?

[Naykon (DayZ) 25]

Guys considering we are starting out with walking boots and a rucksack and looking quite like someone going hiking it makes sense that we would also be carrying a water bottle.

I have spawned with no water bottle, I am now standing in a fresh water lake with an empty whiskey bottle. I am surrounded by water, I have a container, yet I am dying of thirst in my first hour of spawning.

This does not make sense.

[Furious George 0]

We really need to be able to drink from lakes or wells without a water bottle, this gets a +1 from me.

[Beloozero 118]

Agreed, but it would have to be a smaller amount since you would be using your cupped hands instead of a container.

[thealgerian 2]

The easiest way to fix this would be to give an empty bottle at spawn.

[guidez 180]

Or at least let us use empty cans / whiskey bottles as replacement.

[legwiz 0]

We should be able to fill empty cans/bottles with 1/3 of what fits on the canteen atm. This would give a new use for these trash.

And well, do you always need a glass to drink water? No. Another think to consider maybe.

[thoxon 26]

Less soda cans, and more empty bottles. Having to much soda available, makes it so you never have to leave a town or city. Plus water from ponds or lakes shoild have to be boiled over a fire before you cam drink it.

[hkurban 31]

Plus water from ponds or lakes shoild have to be boiled over a fire before you cam drink it.

Or risk getting sick like you do when your temperature drops.

[daze23 549]

Less soda cans' date=' and more empty bottles. Having to much soda available, makes it so you never have to leave a town or city. Plus water from ponds or lakes shoild have to be boiled over a fire before you cam drink it.

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I think that's only something you have to do in tropical climates, and generally only if you're not from there and have not built up a resistance to the bacteria in the water. but they could easily make up an excuse why it's necessary in this game. maybe the zed virus is in the water. but if that were the case, I'd play it safe and stick to soda...

[hkurban 31]

I think that's only something you have to do in tropical climates, and generally only if you're not from there and have not built up a resistance to the bacteria in the water. but they could easily make up an excuse why it's necessary in this game. maybe the zed virus is in the water. but if that were the case, I'd play it safe and stick to soda...

Lots of things live in fresh water. Bacteria, viruses, chemicals, algae, fungi, animal and fish excrement, all are present in open water sources regardless of climate. These are generally not things we as civilized human beings want in our system. Some we can handle in some amounts, some we can tolerate and only worry about the nasty taste, some will debilitate us on contact with our digestive system. Drinking unpurified water carries an extremely high risk of contracting a debilitating illness. You really do not want to have a fever, chills, and diahrea while dealing with zombies and bandits.

Some societies living off of unpurified water sources in third world countries may have built up a tolerance to most of the local contaminants, but are still susceptible to strong contagions like Malaria and Polio.

As a survivor living off the land (based on military and civil survival training and guides) it is a necessity to purify ground water before drinking. To build up a tolerance would take, months, years, possibly even lifetimes.

Purification is usually done one of two ways:

Iodine tablets (takes a while for the iodine to dissolve in the water enough to drink)

Boiling (kills anything living in the water)

Rainwater is a much cleaner drinking water source, but it is much harder to collect (a good use for the empty cans in game).

Lastly, if no water can be found, an individual can create a solar still to collect atmospheric condensation, but this takes a very long time and has very little turnaround. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_still

[daze23 549]

Lots of things live in fresh water. Bacteria' date=' viruses, chemicals, algae, fungi, animal and fish excrement, all are present in open water sources regardless of climate.

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the warmer the climate/water, the more likely there will be dangerous stuff in it. but I agree with everything else you said

[5P4RK4 (DayZ) 50]

If there ever is a point where i have to use empty cans to collect rainwater in this game, i'll quit.

[Naykon (DayZ) 25]

Plus water from ponds or lakes shoild have to be boiled over a fire before you cam drink it.

Or risk getting sick like you do when your temperature drops.

I like this idea

[Shag 90]

I think driking directly from water sources is the most immersive of the solutions. I like not spawning with a water bottle.

[Jia 1]

I think driking directly from water sources is the most immersive of the solutions. I like not spawning with a water bottle.

Purification is usually done one of two ways:

Iodine tablets (takes a while for the iodine to dissolve in the water enough to drink)

Boiling (kills anything living in the water)

[boil water] Or risk getting sick like you do when your temperature drops.

I really like these suggestions!

[septuscap 42]

Definitely agreed that if you can't drink from ponds/rain/whatever directly, players should be started with a water bottle (empty if need be).

[Naykon (DayZ) 25]

Need something to gulp the painkillers down with.

[step0229 8]

Less soda cans' date=' and more empty bottles. Having to much soda available, makes it so you never have to leave a town or city. Plus water from ponds or lakes shoild have to be boiled over a fire before you cam drink it.

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I think that's only something you have to do in tropical climates, and generally only if you're not from there and have not built up a resistance to the bacteria in the water. but they could easily make up an excuse why it's necessary in this game. maybe the zed virus is in the water. but if that were the case, I'd play it safe and stick to soda...

You obviously werent in the boy scouts or haven't taken a survival class. Any standing water can contain deadly bacteria.

[Krell 17]

+1 on the boiling idea, simply reduces your chance of catching an infection from potentially tainted water supplies to zero. Also +1 to being able to drink up at ponds or pumps (with the risk of infection in the ponds, of course).

[Rinner23 5]

If you can fill bottle from fresh water, you should be able to drink from them directly. Any other argument is a null reference exception.

[Powell (DayZ) 734]

We really need to be able to drink from lakes or wells without a water bottle' date=' this gets a +1 from me.

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[Redshift 58]

There is a point where "realism" becomes too burdensome and detracts from the "game".

Boiling water is one of those times. Realism (though honestly the better word to use here is "authenticity" not "realism") is only good as long as it makes the game better (note I did not say more fun, but "better"), and is bad when it makes the game tedious.

It would just make it too hard to make use of the water mechanic at that point, and you are better off ignoring ponds and wells all together and just drinking soda. Because you would need 4 different items to do it, 3 of which are not guaranteed to be found easily or quickly, or even within the amount of time it will take you to die from thirst. 1: empty canteen, 2: hatchet to cut wood (or find a woodpile spawn), 3: matches, 4: water source.

It's like cooking meat, it takes a while to get all of those items in order to make use of the cooking mechanic (knife, hatchet, matches, wood, animal). Sure if I happen across everything I need to cook meat then I might use it (or I might not since the fire could give my position away), but largely I ignore it and just eat sardines.

I know that now I will get bombarded with "but it's more realistic". Well you are forgetting that you can go much longer in reality without food/water than you can in the game. You can live for a long time without food. Up to 8 weeks is what I have found (more or less depending on your physical condition). And under ideal conditions you can go about 5 days without water (obviously this game is not ideal conditions since you are exhausting yourself constantly, but at least it isn't the desert heat. You could likely go 2 or possibly 3 days without water under these conditions if forced to).

[Cormac McCarthy 15]

wait, what if, drinking from ponds made you puke every 5 mins for an hour. and you were like BUEEAHAHGHHG! when you puked.

[Imbalanxd 59]

After reading the OP, only one thing came to mind. Remove the starting coyote pack.

[AlexanderG 1]

Just add the bottle of water and one can of food. If you even have bandages and painkillers form the start, it means that you've had minimally prepared yourself for surviving, and it's obvious that you should have food and water too in that case. From different POV, food and water reservoirs of any kind are more common than medical supplies even in Chernarus, so food and water makes sense there too.