Night time way too dark

[Strategos (DayZ) 190]

Night time is fine, good in fact. I love being able to sneak around in the dark and it really pisses me off that there are people with their gamma ramped up that might be able to see me when I'm hidden.

 

The whole risk / reward mechanic with torches is great.

[Hell-In-A-Handbasket 8]

the Human Eye adjusts WAY better then you think it does when there is few light sources.

 

i have black out curtains in my house, and guess what, after a good bit of time, i can see perfectly just from the glow of the alarm clock and even less light i can see perfectly fine.

 

ill give a basic example, during any war, maneuvers still happened during the night, George Washington crossed the Deleware at night and snuck around the English troops, there were no light pollution from cities and he couldn't use torch's as it would give away his position, he and every single one of his army of around 6000 people and horses didnt have a problem seeing at night, during the winter, with little light.

 

now here is the results from a random google search regarding being able to see during the night with little light, shame nobody else goggled anything thinking its perfectly fine to not be able to see, fact that not being able to see is proven that you are sick and have a disease

 

http://www.ccmr.cornell.edu/education/ask/?quid=612

 

 

Humans (and most animals) can see in the "dark" only if there is some starlight or, better, moonlight. It takes some time (10 to 30 minutes) for your eyes to become dark adapted to see in such low-light conditions.

 

http://www.aoa.org/optometrists/tools-and-resources/clinical-care-publications/aviation-vision/the-eye-and-night-vision

 

 

This dual-receptor system allows the human eye to maintain sensitivity over an impressively large range of ambient light levels. Between the limits of maximal photopic vision and minimal scotopic vision, the eye can function rather effectively to changes in brightness of as much as 1,000,000,000 times. The sensitivity of the eye automatically adjusts to changes in illumination. The dimmest light in which the rods can function is equivalent to ambient conditions of an overcast night with no moonlight. The dimmest light in which the cones can function is roughly equivalent to a night with 50% moonlight. Thus a white which can just barely be seen by the rods must be increased in brightness 1,000 times before it becomes visible to the cones. The light intensity of the sun is approximately 30,000 times that of the moon, yet the eye can function well in bright sunlight as well as in dim moonlight.

 

 

now if anybody is having problems seing in low light conditions, there is a partial solution ( the Bold Underline is mine and the important part )

http://health.howstuffworks.com/human-body/systems/eye/eyes-adjust-darkness.htm

 

Rhodopsin is the key to night vision -- it is the chemical that the rods use to absorb photons and perceive light. When a molecule of rhodopsin absorbs a photon, it splits into a retinal and an opsin molecule. These molecules later recombine naturally back into rhodopsin at a fixed rate, and recombinati­on is fairly slow.

So, when you expose your eyes to bright light, all of the rhodopsin breaks down into retinal and opsin. If you then turn out the lights and try to see in the dark, you can't. The cones need a lot of light, so they are useless, and there is no rhodopsin now so the rods are useless, too. Over the course of several minutes, however, the retinal and opsin recombine back into rhodopsin, and you can see again.

A fun fact: The retinal used in the eye is derived from vitamin A. If a person's diet is low in vitamin A, there is not enough retinal in the rods and therefore not enough rhodopsin. People who lack vitamin A often suffer from night blindness -- they cannot see in the dark.

 

Obligatory Wikipedia Articles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptation_(eye)

 

if you have problems seeing in the dark

 

 

Nyctalopia also called "Night Blindness" is a condition making it difficult or impossible to see in relatively low light. It is a symptom of several eye diseases. Night blindness may exist from birth, or be caused by injury or malnutrition (for example, a lack of vitamin A). It can be described as insufficient adaptation to darkness.

 

http://www.wikihow.com/See-in-the-Dark ( i personally use the " eye Patch " technique when i wake up during the night and want to get a drink, i keep one eye closed whenever i have to turn on a light, allowing me to still see in almost near darkness after i open the fridge or other light switch and able to use both eyes after a while )

 

now because ALOT of articles say it can be caused by Malnutrition and lack of Vitamin A, i will admit vision can be bad in game, but should not be bad if your not starving. also the Vitamin A cure could fix it ingame by eating the ingame vitamins

 

[firemedic 7]

the Human Eye adjusts WAY better then you think it does when there is few light sources.

 

i have black out curtains in my house, and guess what, after a good bit of time, i can see perfectly just from the glow of the alarm clock and even less light i can see perfectly fine.

 

ill give a basic example, during any war, maneuvers still happened during the night, George Washington crossed the Deleware at night and snuck around the English troops, there were no light pollution from cities and he couldn't use torch's as it would give away his position, he and every single one of his army of around 6000 people and horses didnt have a problem seeing at night, during the winter, with little light.

 

now here is the results from a random google search regarding being able to see during the night with little light, shame nobody else goggled anything thinking its perfectly fine to not be able to see, fact that not being able to see is proven that you are sick and have a disease

 

http://www.ccmr.cornell.edu/education/ask/?quid=612

 

http://www.aoa.org/optometrists/tools-and-resources/clinical-care-publications/aviation-vision/the-eye-and-night-vision

 

 

now if anybody is having problems seing in low light conditions, there is a partial solution ( the Bold Underline is mine and the important part )

http://health.howstuffworks.com/human-body/systems/eye/eyes-adjust-darkness.htm

 

Obligatory Wikipedia Articles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptation_(eye)

 

if you have problems seeing in the dark

 

http://www.wikihow.com/See-in-the-Dark ( i personally use the " eye Patch " technique when i wake up during the night and want to get a drink, i keep one eye closed whenever i have to turn on a light, allowing me to still see in almost near darkness after i open the fridge or other light switch and able to use both eyes after a while )

 

now because ALOT of articles say it can be caused by Malnutrition and lack of Vitamin A, i will admit vision can be bad in game, but should not be bad if your not starving. also the Vitamin A cure could fix it ingame by eating the ingame vitamins

 

Well done sir. That would be cool if the game had that little extra factor in there for seeing better by taking vitamins. Also the eye patch method is very very effective. It's a common thing for snipers. People don't realize how well we can actually see anymore. A great thing for driving at night is to turn down your dash lighting to the lowest you can tolerate, drive for a bit, then turn it down more until it hits the lowest setting if not already there. It helps you see the shadows better by not distracting your eyes. Granted this is only helpful for those on rural untrafficked roads. That's why I don't get the people who want to leave there fog lights on when they switch to the brights. The whole point of the brights is to illuminate the distance, the fogs turn off to dim the foreground so you can see dark things at a distance better since you aren't being polluted by what's immediately in front of you as much.

[Karmaterror 982]

Night time isn't too dark....

 

Most places have heavy light pollution. If you go to a remote area of countryside you will be shocked just how dark it is without streetlights...car lights, light coming out of every window. Yes in the first stages of night its pitch black....but when/if the moon is out and the clouds are thin you can see pretty well.

 

Last year, for new year, I climbed a mountain (well more like a hill) in wales. It never dawned on me to take a torch. When I got there I regreted that instantly. I couldn't see my hand in front of my face when we got away from the car park. Nor could I even distinguish what was a puddle on the floor and what wasn't. Ended up falling over countless times and stepping in more puddles than I want to remember.

 

My point is that when theres no man made light anywhere for miles....its damn dark!

Edited December 19, 2013 by Karmaterror

[Ozar 108]

I dont aggree at all.

Please wait till 1 o'clock at night and than go into the woods for at least 1 km.

Man , you will see nothing at all.

 

I think its pretty realistic.

Edited December 19, 2013 by Ozar

[Hell-In-A-Handbasket 8]

if your expecting to see stuff immediately you are correct. but your eyes will adjust, and you will be able to see

 

IT IS SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN

 

 

I dont aggree at all.

Please wait till 1 o'clock at night and than go into the woods for at least 1 km.

Man , you will see nothing at all.

 

I think its pretty realistic.

[firemedic 7]

I dont aggree at all.

Please wait till 1 o'clock at night and than go into the woods for at least 1 km.

Man , you will see nothing at all.

 

I think its pretty realistic.

Done it, many times and in many places. Have never been totally void of sight. I live in the country as well and I've never had issues. The whole thing goes back to each individual person though, and was mentioned vitamin A seems to be a key player for a persons ability to see in the dark. You can play the game as you see darkness, I would like to play the game as I see darkness and for me this game is totally unrealistic. 

If you have ever seen any pictures of long exposure photography, people go to THE darkest stretches of their ability to take pictures of it. There is still plenty of light to make a great picture. There is no pure darkness outside really. Granted our eyes aren't that good but we can still pull light out of some pretty dark places. Just a fact of life.

This was when I was vacationing in warmer climates. This was exactly how it looked after sitting out there for 20 minutes, minus the moon blooming of course. It's only an 8 second exposure which is very very short. That's in a secluded island where there is no city to even produce light. All the lights are from dock lights and a house or two.

In the picture above, that's how street lights should illuminate the area in the game. That's real life. The 3 foot radius of barely visible light coming out of the towns with lamps is no bueno at all. I apologize for the very bright looking lamps themselves but that's just how light sensitivity works for a camera compared to our eyes that have an immense dynamic range. That's about 25% brighter than real life visibility also.

Edited December 19, 2013 by FireMedic772

[kiwi12 36]

Again: nights are fine. Fix the flashlight indoor.
 
Indoor 3rd-person:

 

http://i.imgur.com/yVvE3sI.jpg
 

Indoor first-person:

 

http://i.imgur.com/wmgjVaD.jpg

 

Found my first helicopter crash site + outdoor 3rd-person:

 

http://i.imgur.com/fkaOc4N.jpg

 

Good morning! (time for this and the pictures above: sunrise):

 

http://i.imgur.com/PhGjjtt.jpg

 

 

Edit: I used a Headtorch

Edited December 20, 2013 by kiwi12