Choosing spawn location and the implications.

[ftee 58]

I have mixed feelings about being able to spawn into the map at a fixed location. For one it helps when you want to meet up with friends, either when you are both fresh spawning or if you want to get to a freind on the map. It also gives those that don't like certain spawns the ability to avoid them.

 

But it can also lead to revenge killings. Now I will link a vid showing exactly this in action, I know the server I am playing on isn't vanilla and the spawns aren't quite the same but in principle this could happen on a vanilla server.

 

[King of kong 1117]

I agree! Choose Spawn should be removed. It worsens the PVP-TDM situation greatly because people just spawn by Cherno/Elektro and deathmatche. It also removes the "lost" aspect because you can just tell yo friends where to spawn to meet you.

[Skat3rat 1633]

I have to agree.  Last time I played on a server with the ability to choose where you spawned, I saw and experienced for myself, exactly what happened in that video.

[King of kong 1117]

I have to agree.  Last time I played on a server with the ability to choose where you spawned, I saw and experienced for myself, exactly what happened in that video.

The other day on FR130 I met a French bandit on the roof of the Elektrozavodsk Firestation. I had netted an M4 with one clip and a G17. He began climbing up the ladder, I heard zombies following him. I took aim with my gun and opened fire as he came up the stairs. To my surprise, he used the ladder glitch and actually came out onto  the roof where I was. He began begging for mercy and running around like a headless chicken, asking if I spoke French. I said "Non Francais". He began speaking English and sounded like he was my own age. I started bandaging him and telling him to calm down.

He thanked me. I tried to aim at him as he skirted around me. "Stop moving or you're dead" I snapped at him. "Give me everything you have, now!" I commanded. He says "OK, OK" . Then shots ring out and my character is bleeding out. I flop to the floor and swing around, blind firing at the Frenchie "You little fecker!" I snap. Then more shots ring out and my character falls dead. 

I respawn and head back to make peace. I spot the 2 bandits running to the hospital with their sweet new loot. I follow them onto the roof and try to make peace. *Blam* I get shot in the head.

Not really on-topic but if I killed both of them they'd've just respawned and came back.

[rossums 2190]

On it like a car bonnet.

Choosing your spawn is a pish idea.

It just gives players an advantage which they should not be given, you should wake up in the arse end of nowhere and have to find your bearings - not choose where your dumb ass wakes up.

[applejaxc 2500]

Choosing your spawn is bullshit. That's the nicest way I can put it.

 

No, I can make an analogy:

 

 

 

 

Adding chosen spawns to a survival game that prides itself on *DISorientation is like paying a professional hitman to fix someone's breaks, so they won't crash going downhill.

Edited October 27, 2013 by Applejaxc

[broguenz 333]

Ok..

 

-find a zombie let him eat you while you go make a coffee or

 

-find a high point and jump.. repeat until you get where you want to spawn anyway

 

Whats the difference? It takes more time but that's really all.

 

Maybe the + 's out weigh the - 's? 

Edited October 27, 2013 by RogueNZ

[Mos1ey 6301]

Ok..

 

-find a zombie let him eat you while you go make a coffee or

 

-find a high point and jump.. repeat until you get where you want to spawn anyway

 

Whats the difference? It takes more time but that's really all.

 

Maybe the + 's out weigh the - 's? 

 

The difference (IMO) is that in allowing a player to choose their spawn point the devs are condoning this 'play style'.

[broguenz 333]

The difference (IMO) is that in allowing a player to choose their spawn point the devs are condoning this 'play style'.

 

Perhaps

They're damned if they do and damned if they don't.

 

1000 people rejoice about being able to team up with friends more easily

 

999 others think it does nothing but aid foul play

[Korsbaek 1778]

Perhaps

They're damned if they do and damned if they don't.

 

1000 people rejoice about being able to team up with friends more easily

 

999 others think it does nothing but aid foul play

 

The way most DayZ players are today, I would say there are 10000 players thinking this is a good idea, and 100 players thinking it is a bad idea.

[AbhChallenger 4]

Hopefully this crap will not be in standalone.

 

I had not looked at the state of the mod in close to half a year. (Mainly cared about standalone) but look at this crap. Self blood bags, pick where you spawn. Hell I was watching a stream and now they have this little gyrocopters that can drop bombs? WTF?

 

Standalone can't come fast enough. Time for the true DayZ experience to return!

[iegle 117]

The way most DayZ players are today, I would say there are 10000 players thinking this is a good idea, and 100 players thinking it is a bad idea.

This, sadly.

 

I'm afraid the mod is training a legion of douche nozzles who will ruin the SA with their absurd playstyle.

[gesundheitk 420]

This, sadly.

 

I'm afraid the mod is training a legion of douche nozzles who will ruin the SA with their absurd playstyle.

If you think that's bad, you should read some article comments that relate to DayZ.

[TheRedScare 353]

People who play triple A FPS games often like everything to be metaphorically painted with the same shade of shit that they are used to. Since they are in the majority most games developers have no choice but to sell out to meet their demands. If they don't then the game they release will be buried under a crapalanche of whiny spoilt kids complaining about the lack of a look sensitivity setting stopping them "360ing" and that there are so many hackers in the game because "no way could that guy shoot me from 1000m with a sniper, I was running" Sadly the world we live in is full of these bell-ends and we just have to accept that developers will give into their demands to make a profit. (By the way I am not antagonising games developers as a whole its understandable to want to be paid for work.)

[Ozelot (DayZ) 394]

It's an optional feature. Don't like it? Pick a random spawn.

Edited October 27, 2013 by Ozelot

[green-K- 101]

Hell I was watching a stream and now they have this little gyrocopters that can drop bombs? WTF?

 

That wasn't vanilla DayZ, some other mods don't even try to resemble the "classic DayZ experience" so you can expect crap like that.

[TheRedScare 353]

It's an optional feature. Don't like it? Pick a random spawn.

You don't read other peoples posts do you?

The problem is not that its too easy for us its that other people use it to respawn near where they died and bumrush it with anything they have resulting in killing someone near a spawn location pointless as they will just spawn and run right back.

[Ozelot (DayZ) 394]

You don't read other peoples posts do you?

The problem is not that its too easy for us its that other people use it to respawn near where they died and bumrush it with anything they have resulting in killing someone near a spawn location pointless as they will just spawn and run right back.

Play on a server with it disabled?

 *facepalm*

This is like the people who whined about game achievements in 2005

[TheRedScare 353]

Play on a server with it disabled?

 *facepalm*

This is like the people who whined about game achievements in 2005

That is not always a choice (friends play on server and refuse to change, got good loot and its a private hive.), also its the concept we are discussing.

[Ozelot (DayZ) 394]

That is not always a choice (friends play on server and refuse to change, got good loot and its a private hive.), also its the concept we are discussing.

It IS always a choice. If you choose to play on a server with it enabled, you are choosing to do that. You can also select a random spawn on those servers.

 

STOP WHINING.

[TheRedScare 353]

It IS always a choice. If you choose to play on a server with it enabled, you are choosing to do that. You can also select a random spawn on those servers.

 

STOP WHINING.

I am not whining? Also if you have good loot or a good base setup you are not going to change servers. Once again you are not reading, its not us who are complaining that we have a choice to choose our spawn, its us discussing why its a bad idea in general in terms of people spawn rushing you.

[Ozelot (DayZ) 394]

I am not whining? Also if you have good loot or a good base setup you are not going to change servers. Once again you are not reading, its not us who are complaining that we have a choice to choose our spawn, its us discussing why its a bad idea in general in terms of people spawn rushing you.

So you have a problem with people playing the game how they want, but if someone intrudes on how you want to play, then you're exempt?

[TheRedScare 353]

So you have a problem with people playing the game how they want, but if someone intrudes on how you want to play, then you're exempt?

I never said everyone should play this way, I was saying how in my OPINION its a stupid idea. Other people would say its a good idea, I don't say that. I do not play on servers with spawn choice enabled for this reason. I do not care if others play that way as long as I don't have to play with them. Stop trying to be a smart-ass.

[Ozelot (DayZ) 394]

I never said everyone should play this way, I was saying how in my OPINION its a stupid idea. Other people would say its a good idea, I don't say that. I do not play on servers with spawn choice enabled for this reason. I do not care if others play that way as long as I don't have to play with them. Stop trying to be a smart-ass.

So do not play with them. Problem solved.

[TheRedScare 353]

So do not play with them. Problem solved.

It is not a problem. If you bothered to read and process what I was saying in my last posts. It is a discussion regarding it. People discuss history even though its in the past as its interesting and people like hearing other peoples opinions regarding it.