MigGames 0 Posted October 26, 2013 Hi guys, iv been wanting to play DayZ for a while now and decided to buy the combined ops pack to play the mod whilst waiting for the standalone, so i downloaded the demo and it played at 50-60fps with everything high so i thought that i was okay.Just now tried the OA game and i have really bad 25-30fps and lower in the town.Dont really know whats wrong, i know the demo is not the same as the release but i thought they werent too far apart.At the minute im playing Metro Last Light with everything medium/high at a steady 30-35 fps so my pc should handle this perfectly.Had a quick look around and tried a few tips on the internet to no avail.So my question is, will DayZ play just as bad? My set up isnt the best but it is surprisingly ok for games like Bioshock Infinite, Dishonored and it runs Skyrim on high at 45-50 fps! AMD Athlon II X2 220 OC to 3.69GHZNvidia GTS 250 1GBWindows 74GB Ram. Any help would be appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) Your specs aren't really the best. That's one factor you have to keep in mind. Maybe even start thinking about an upgrade for yourself. But this guide will help you get the maximum out of what you can do, as it gives you an overview of what exactly is going to give you performanceboosts and what makes your game look good: http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/28160-guide-how-to-set-up-your-graphics-properly/ Edited October 26, 2013 by kichilron 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dulix11 731 Posted October 26, 2013 Aye, that GPU is limiting you severely, that needs an upgrade. If you can't upgrade, try turning Anti-Aliasing and Post-Process effects off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MigGames 0 Posted October 26, 2013 Yeah i appreciate that it is an low end system but like i said i play most games in some way shape or form at playable fps.Assassins Creed III which a poorly optimized console port i get 30-35 fps on mostly high/medium, and Metro is a game with a lot more clout in visuals and the PhysX system and i play that??The demo ran at a steady 60fps on every thing very high even when looking over the land with the draw distance fairly high, hence why i bought the combined ops pack. But the bizarre thing is that i can crank DayZ down to low/very low and it still chugs at 30fps, there's not really increase in fps.But i will try those tips you linked me to. Thanks for help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MigGames 0 Posted October 26, 2013 HMMMM given this lots of thought.Ok situation is that after the tweaks that were shown to me the performance skyrocketed on the vanilla games, arma 2 plays on very high at 50-55fps, OA plays at high/normal at 40-45fps BUT DayZ runs at 20-25fps on very low!Am i missing something here, fair enough you can expect a drop for DayZ what will all the items it spawns but a half drop on the LOWEST settings, this is madness.So because i only brought the pack for DayZ as military shooter are a dime a dozen and hold no interest for me i feel like i wasted my money.Im determined to play it so if i wait for the SA is there a chance that it will be better optimized etc? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted October 27, 2013 Really depends on what you're playing. Are you only testing on one server? Are you playing Vanilla DayZ (1.8.0.3)? If you're playing Vanilla DayZ on a server, that's restarting regularly you shouldn't experience frames like that. On Epoch or in the middle of Cherno however - that's a different story. 25 FPS is pretty good for Epoch, for example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King of kong 1117 Posted October 27, 2013 Oh........20-30 FPS is good. It's only worthwile postong if you get 8-16 FPS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MigGames 0 Posted October 27, 2013 Yeah i think its the vanilla servers but it keeps crahing every 10 minutes on those servers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MigGames 0 Posted October 27, 2013 Oh........20-30 FPS is good. It's only worthwile postong if you get 8-16 FPS. yeah but im getting that with every thing on the lowest setting! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted October 27, 2013 Yeah. But then again, that doesn't surprise me with your specs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mos1ey 6301 Posted October 27, 2013 By 'the demo' do you mean ArmA II: Free? 1) ArmA II: Free uses super low-res textures, so it's not as intensive as the full game.2) DayZ mod is a lot more intensive than ArmA II because there are masses of AI calculations to be carried out by your CPU etc. I wouldn't recommend playing ArmA II or DayZ mod with those specs, it isn't likely to be an enjoyable experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MigGames 0 Posted October 27, 2013 Yeah. But then again, that doesn't surprise me with your specs. Read the above post that i run the normal NOT Demo at 50-55 fps with everything on high/very high and OA at 40-45 fps on normal high! By 'the demo' do you mean ArmA II: Free? 1) ArmA II: Free uses super low-res textures, so it's not as intensive as the full game.2) DayZ mod is a lot more intensive than ArmA II because there are masses of AI calculations to be carried out by your CPU etc. I wouldn't recommend playing ArmA II or DayZ mod with those specs, it isn't likely to be an enjoyable experience.No i mean Arma II the FULL game.OK fair enough but again it plays OA at 40-45fps AND in the normal world of pc gaming when you adjust the specs up or down it should affect fps but i can run it at very high at 20-22fps and very low at 25fps!!!This is just beyond my level of comprehension, so i repeat will the SA be better optimized! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted October 27, 2013 That's a lot of posts there :D Well - we're not saying, that your specs are "shit" and that it would be your fault. It is fact, that ARMA 2 is poorly optimized. And that's not your fault. It has to do with the fact, that it barely uses your graphicscard, but a lot of your CPU. And your CPU sadly isn't the best. That means that you will most likely be able to play recent games on a good level - yet Arma is going to lag a tad and especially modded content like DayZ is. By the way: I think you haven't told us yet what you're actually playing. Like I stated already - if you're playing Epoch it wouldn't surprise me when you stay at 20 FPS even with WAY better specs and a lot of optimization. If you have 1.8.0.3 DayZ downloaded join US 1503 or EU2419, as I'm running them and I can assure you, that they're running smoothly at steady 60 FPS. Just to eliminate your FPS-issues aren't caused by the servers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MigGames 0 Posted October 27, 2013 Yeah sorry justy reread that it sounded abit like a rant which i am against so again apologize.Im playing the DayZ Mod 1.8.0.3 and before it crashed last it was actually running at 40-42 fps on that particular server so i will try the ones you suggested.Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MigGames 0 Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) That's a lot of posts there :D Well - we're not saying, that your specs are "shit" and that it would be your fault. It is fact, that ARMA 2 is poorly optimized. And that's not your fault. It has to do with the fact, that it barely uses your graphicscard, but a lot of your CPU. And your CPU sadly isn't the best. That means that you will most likely be able to play recent games on a good level - yet Arma is going to lag a tad and especially modded content like DayZ is. By the way: I think you haven't told us yet what you're actually playing. Like I stated already - if you're playing Epoch it wouldn't surprise me when you stay at 20 FPS even with WAY better specs and a lot of optimization. If you have 1.8.0.3 DayZ downloaded join US 1503 or EU2419, as I'm running them and I can assure you, that they're running smoothly at steady 60 FPS. Just to eliminate your FPS-issues aren't caused by the servers. Okey just joined the EU2419 server and amazingly got an average of 43fps on mostly high but a few things on normal and PPA disable and AA disabled, but then it crashed again, have you any experience with the "ARMA II: OA Has Stopped Working" Problem before? Edited October 27, 2013 by MigGames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
green-K- 101 Posted October 27, 2013 Aye, that GPU is limiting you severely, that needs an upgrade. If you can't upgrade, try turning Anti-Aliasing and Post-Process effects off. This is wrong, the CPU is limiting the performance in this build. I have a similar setup (Athlon II X2 240 OC @ 3,2Ghz, AMD Radeon HD5750 @750Mhz/1200Mhz, 8GB RAM) and changed the GFX card once to my old Radeon HD4650. The result: I had nearly the same fps. I wouldn't recommend playing ArmA II or DayZ mod with those specs, it isn't likely to be an enjoyable experience. As long as he doesn't play on 60/60 servers, he should be fine. Only Cherno and Elektro can get a bit problematic - all this only in DayZ though. Standard Arma2 missions, including massive MP missions like Domination and Wasteland always run without problems on my PC with 40-60fps. @OP: These are the settings I'm using, you may try them on your system (the draw distance is quite high since I played some jet missions, 1000 is enough for DayZ; Shadow is on very high since low mainly uses the CPU, and disabling them makes it even more ugly) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MigGames 0 Posted October 27, 2013 This is wrong, the CPU is limiting the performance in this build. I have a similar setup (Athlon II X2 240 OC @ 3,2Ghz, AMD Radeon HD5750 @750Mhz/1200Mhz, 8GB RAM) and changed the GFX card once to my old Radeon HD4650. The result: I had nearly the same fps. As long as he doesn't play on 60/60 servers, he should be fine. Only Cherno and Elektro can get a bit problematic - all this only in DayZ though. Standard Arma2 missions, including massive MP missions like Domination and Wasteland always run without problems on my PC with 40-60fps. @OP: These are the settings I'm using, you may try them on your system (the draw distance is quite high since I played some jet missions, 1000 is enough for DayZ; Shadow is on very high since low mainly uses the CPU, and disabling them makes it even more ugly) Thanks for that that is pretty much my set up atm although it keeps freezing on main menu now so cant play it >:( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted October 27, 2013 but then it crashed again, have you any experience with the "ARMA II: OA Has Stopped Working" Problem before? http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/32290-arma-2-oa-has-stopped-working-crash-to-desktop-fixed/ http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/129405-arma-2-oa-has-stopped-working/ http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/107354-arma-2-oa-has-stopped-working/ http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/30223-arma-2-oa-has-stopped-working/ And yes - those are 3 different threads with the same name. I really hope that helps you with your issue and if not, don't refrain from using the searchfunction. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MigGames 0 Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) Haha yeah sorry for that, followed instructions but i cant find the right beta patch for me it either says wrong cd key or that im using a newer version? Edited October 27, 2013 by MigGames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MigGames 0 Posted October 27, 2013 Right o fps problem sorted by joining EU2419 Server and it has stopped crashing so im very happy, just wish i could stop dying :)I suck.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted October 27, 2013 Right o fps problem sorted by joining EU2419 Server and it has stopped crashing so im very happy, just wish i could stop dying :)I suck.... We have something for that as well. :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MigGames 0 Posted October 27, 2013 Ha i need the chenarus 101 me thinks.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted October 27, 2013 Sign up for the forums and fill out the trainingform and we'll get you started. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MigGames 0 Posted October 27, 2013 Unfortunately it now keeps freezing up on your server and on the press start servers.In half a mind to wait for the SA now really as iv played an hour of it uninterrupted and i love the gameplay, just wish i can play!Will try again another time i think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted October 27, 2013 Did you check if it's overheating? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites