[POLL] Are you going to Kill on Sight with new item degradation system ?

[dgeesio 1034]

Actually you can help stop KOS

When my group had over 120 members we locked down 3-4 servers at a time hunting bandits and helping people

Those who KOS were hunted over and over until they left and gave up

We made a lot of friends

Only reason we gave up was being harassed by hackers taking a liking to having 20 clan members on a server and nuking use over and over

This just proves that only the community can change it and not any game options or punishments

Ill never KOS, but DONT say it can't be done when you don't have a clue just because all you know is KOS

Have you ever got a group together and spent weeks in a server gaining a reputation and trying to help those that only KOS out of fear?

I doubt it, so you don't know if it can be done

And just to clarify, in not attempting to stop KOS and banditry

I'm just trying to REDUCE it and help those who are borderline or killing out of fear and want a place to call home

i guarentee you if i knew where your server was i would come on with my group and shot basically all of you. i wouldnt leave it would be you leaving.most servers we have been on we basically controll. would be a nice battle.do you have rcon tools showing player locations by anychance ? he asks knowingly !

Edited October 12, 2013 by dgeesio

[thelonewarrior 886]

Ok then if you say so

Yes you will kill us all, because all 20 of us sit on cherno tower in one massive fat group so we are easy pickings

Keep feeding your ego and getting an epeen boner over that you think you can "own" a group you never seen in action

It's typical "in invincible" 12 year old speak

No one cares

And no we didn't use any map hacks to find people

We used skill, patience and knowing what fights we could win or lose unlike you who thinks you are better than everyone else

Edited October 12, 2013 by Regulator Lone Warrior

[ryan__mc__@hotmail.co.uk 131]

Actually you can help stop KOS

When my group had over 120 members we locked down 3-4 servers at a time hunting bandits and helping people

Those who KOS were hunted over and over until they left and gave up

We made a lot of friends

Only reason we gave up was being harassed by hackers taking a liking to having 20 clan members on a server and nuking use over and over

This just proves that only the community can change it and not any game options or punishments

Ill never KOS, but DONT say it can't be done when you don't have a clue just because all you know is KOS

Have you ever got a group together and spent weeks in a server gaining a reputation and trying to help those that only KOS out of fear?

I doubt it, so you don't know if it can be done

And just to clarify, in not attempting to stop KOS and banditry

I'm just trying to REDUCE it and help those who are borderline or killing out of fear and want a place to call home

 

I must say if it was the group i play with ....it would have the opposite effect as if you actually managed to kill us then we would be even more driven to go back and kill your group and make no mistake ( no ego involved ) we will kill you group over and over and yes whilst you'll kill us too dont think for a second we wont kill you :P Thats whats fun about dayz.

[thelonewarrior 886]

True, there were times when it went against us and we did lose some battles

It wasn't so much to do with the fact we were killing bandits and changing their mind, for example a guy once got pinned down and we killed the guys, he was quite thankful and we fixed him up and sent him on his way

Some people you can't change, but when you've got good stuff and some guys come rolling in and save your life, back then people were grateful and wouldn't just kill you when surrounded by a group who probably had hidden cover too

It's more about showing a presence and that we are there to help

Just a shame it's only me now, due to hackers or boardom with dayz they all have up

You also just reminded me if one very persistent bandit on the public hive once

We were locking down cherno

Our medic got sniped so we shot the bandit

Next thing he server hops onto the tower killing the other guys of mine on there

We managed to take him out and regain control

No lie..... He tried again 7 times to server hop onto the tower in the exact same spot to try and kill us again

That AS50 that we had must have blinded him to a rage so strong he wasted a whole day trying to kill us using the same tactic

But I'm going way off topic so in gonna stop posting now

Edited October 12, 2013 by Regulator Lone Warrior

[beavis_5000 111]

not being negitive its the 1000th thread related to KOS . what cant people understand you cant stop or help stop KOS. i know lets make another thread on KOS maybe the 1001 thread will solve the issue :rolleyes:

 

also just because a small number on here post it doesnt reflect the gamers who play dayz. most i know dont even visit this or any forum related to dayz.

 

lol post it on reddit even less percentage of people who play the game even visit reddit. only reason people visit it is because rocket for some unknown reason uses it.

 

 

 

 

 

It may not be possible to stop KoS altogether but things can be done to slow it down. As of now there is almost no other point to the game other than kill and there is no consequence to KoS.Will zombies be hard enough to deal with so the game will have another challenge besides kill people? Will there be a consequence to KoS? I dont know but they can definately make the game unfriendly to a KoS mentality.

 

And making a poll on this forum is the best possible place to get info about the game. Not only that, most players on here are hardcore players and likely some of the better players out there, so they are getting the best possible info from this site.

[beavis_5000 111]

So why do we need a poll then ? Polls are representative only to the people who take part in the poll ...a very small minority of the full dayz player base but whatever lets keep the votes coming.

 

 

 

 

 

And the people who take part in the poll are random players from the hardcore player base (people on this forum). Its the best place to get this info, Bandits and all.

[SalamanderAnder (DayZ) 1747]

Poll is unrepresentative of other features and individual situations, therefore it really won't prove much about this feature. There are other factors which will also be at work in the gameplay. A poll cannot account for context in a hypothetical situation.

[beavis_5000 111]

what if 90 percent of the dayz players dont come on here and play kOS servers ? boom ! this is exactly what i mean.

 

those who come on here are mainly hardcore dayz fans trying to be more envolved the game masses or majority of gamers dont give too shits about forums related to the game they play they just play !

 

all the biggest busiest servers are KOS servers showing you the main populated servers are KOS and so are the players. you are the minority. now you are going to do a poll based on a minorty of hardcore players and ignore the simple biggest thing which is most wont vote. so the whole poll is pointless. your trying to gather numbers which wont show the true reflection of the " ACTUAL " players . only the players who visit this forum and actually vote.

 

the only way this would work was if you voted through the game. so on that note im out.

 

 

 

 

 

Most people play PvP servers because there are just no other servers out there. For example if someone plays Epoch (which is the most popular mod as of right now but not because of KoS) they are going into a server with massive amounts of loot which transfers to massive PvP. So every Epoch server is PvP for that one reason. And before the newest 1.8.0.2 patch basically every server was extreme PvP for mentioned reasons.

 

In the newest 1.8.0.2 patch ive already seen PvP slow down a tad because of less loot. And there is still more loot than there used to be. Bolota of course is still a war zone but thats more because of spawn selection. Its still easier to meet other friendlies there tho.

 

Of course the KoS mentality is still previlant but nonetheless you cant KoS with no weapon leadng to more interaction between friendlies who dont feel like they have to KoS or be KoS'd. So its a tad better for those not trying to KoS everyone they see.

 

So my main point is all the biggest servers are PvP (which can be debated) not because people enjoy the KoS aspect so much but more because there is no other option.

[dgeesio 1034]

Ok then if you say so

Yes you will kill us all, because all 20 of us sit on cherno tower in one massive fat group so we are easy pickings

Keep feeding your ego and getting an epeen boner over that you think you can "own" a group you never seen in action

It's typical "in invincible" 12 year old speak

No one cares

And no we didn't use any map hacks to find people

We used skill, patience and knowing what fights we could win or lose unlike you who thinks you are better than everyone else

you have server tools ? therre fore noone knows if you use tem or not. you were boasting how you kill all bandits i was just saiyng i wouldnt leave and would kill you alot or most of time if you dont use the map cheats which sorrry to say most admins do.

 

where is bandit one sec ill check the live map  " hes near firestation electro " k giz a vehicle ill go get him. thats 99 percent of people in daz who own servers. as said you keep how many members you have give me your server addy when standalone is out. well see then when i know 110 percent you arnt looking at map tools for your server to seee where i am.

[thelonewarrior 886]

We never actually owned a server

We played on the public hive back in the day, we just designated 3-4 servers at random each time we did it

Well one if our guys owned a sever for about a month at one point but couldn't afford to keep it going, which was also public hive

[Siberian (DayZ) 527]

Posted this on reddit too, why so negative ? if u dont care just go away...

cuz the KoS crowd are afraid the SA wont be CoD Dayz edition after all..

 

"dont take my KoS gameplay away"... waaa waaa...

[Capo 323]

can't we just wait and see how the game plays out before making polls about what your standalone playstyle will be? 

[OfficerRaymond 2064]

you have server tools ? therre fore noone knows if you use tem or not. you were boasting how you kill all bandits i was just saiyng i wouldnt leave and would kill you alot or most of time if you dont use the map cheats which sorrry to say most admins do.

 

where is bandit one sec ill check the live map  " hes near firestation electro " k giz a vehicle ill go get him. thats 99 percent of people in daz who own servers. as said you keep how many members you have give me your server addy when standalone is out. well see then when i know 110 percent you arnt looking at map tools for your server to seee where i am.

Do you have to come on every single fucking KoS thread with diarrhea of the mouth, turn it into an argument, and get it locked? If you're so confident in the KoS playstyle then vote and shut up. Stop turning perfectly good threads into flaming wars. Admin abuse isn't even part of the thread, not only are you trying to start a shit storm, you're de-railing.

[rossums 2190]

Do you have to come on every single fucking KoS thread with diarrhea of the mouth, turn it into an argument, and get it locked? If you're so confident in the KoS playstyle then vote and shut up. Stop turning perfectly good threads into flaming wars. Admin abuse isn't even part of the thread, not only are you trying to start a shit storm, you're de-railing.

You can't argue with stupid.

[dgeesio 1034]

Do you have to come on every single fucking KoS thread with diarrhea of the mouth, turn it into an argument, and get it locked? If you're so confident in the KoS playstyle then vote and shut up. Stop turning perfectly good threads into flaming wars. Admin abuse isn't even part of the thread, not only are you trying to start a shit storm, you're de-railing.

perfectly good threads its been done to death then people just repost same shit over and over. guess what ? as soon as this is done some other fool will post a new one on how we can stop KOS. its getting quite stupid. most admins do abuse the tools ive been on alot of servers and its clear that the tools have partly ruined the game. why you think in standalone its all locked down ? for fun ? :rolleyes:

 

 

the real funny thing is he only did the poll in the hope it would show more dont like KOS and guess what it did show even hardcore players love KOS more than fluffy bunny world. get over it already.

Edited October 13, 2013 by dgeesio

[rossums 2190]

perfectly good threads its been done to death then people just repost same shit over and over. guess what ? as soon as this is done some other fool will post a new one on how we can stop KOS. its getting quite stupid. most admins do abuse the tools ive been on alot of servers and its clear that the tools have partly ruined the game. why you think in standalone its all locked down ? for fun ? :rolleyes:

 

 

the real funny thing is he only did the poll in the hope it would show more dont like KOS and guess what it did show even hardcore players love KOS more than fluffy bunny world. get over it already.

No, what it showed is that a large percentage of those who answered the poll WILL change their behaviour due to item degradation.

Yes, many will still KoS but item degradation alone has made many people either STOP KoSing or is forcing them to actually learn to play and move closer before engaging so they don't damage equipment.

Don't know where you got 'even hardcore players love KOS more than fluffy bunny world' from - the amount of KoS players is pretty much identical to friendly players.

 

It just sounds like you are constantly crying because nobody is stupid enough to hold the same shitty stance on the game as you do - NOBODY FORCES YOU TO POST IN THESE THREADS - if you don't like them, ignore them, it's clearly a big talking point within the community and shouldn't be ignored because you get your knickers in a twist every time someone disagrees with you.

 

Now, calm down dear.

Edited October 13, 2013 by Rossums

[dgeesio 1034]

 

No, what it showed is that a large percentage of those who answered the poll WILL change their behaviour due to item degradation.

Yes, many will still KoS but item degradation alone has made many people either STOP KoSing or is forcing them to actually learn to play and move closer before engaging so they don't damage equipment.

Don't know where you got 'even hardcore players love KOS more than fluffy bunny world' from - the amount of KoS players is pretty much identical to friendly players.

 

It just sounds like you are constantly crying because nobody is stupid enough to hold the same shitty stance on the game as you do - NOBODY FORCES YOU TO POST IN THESE THREADS - if you don't like them, ignore them, it's clearly a big talking point within the community and shouldn't be ignored because you get your knickers in a twist every time someone disagrees with you.

 

Now, calm down dear.

 

i am calm . KOS FTW !

[ryan__mc__@hotmail.co.uk 131]

 

No, what it showed is that a large percentage of those who answered the poll WILL change their behaviour due to item degradation.

Yes, many will still KoS but item degradation alone has made many people either STOP KoSing or is forcing them to actually learn to play and move closer before engaging so they don't damage equipment.

Don't know where you got 'even hardcore players love KOS more than fluffy bunny world' from - the amount of KoS players is pretty much identical to friendly players.

 

It just sounds like you are constantly crying because nobody is stupid enough to hold the same shitty stance on the game as you do - NOBODY FORCES YOU TO POST IN THESE THREADS - if you don't like them, ignore them, it's clearly a big talking point within the community and shouldn't be ignored because you get your knickers in a twist every time someone disagrees with you.

 

Now, calm down dear.

 

 

The poll doesn't ask that people who already kos at current will you kos with new item degradation? ....if this was a kos'er only poll then it would be alot more relevant as then you would see who of those kos'ers would decide not to kos because of item degradation etc....but even then youll still get people voting who don't kos purely to tip the scales and make it look like people will stop kos to prove a point ( and they will do this make no mistake). So poll wont give you the the proper results it should in theory give you.

Edited October 13, 2013 by Massicor

[rossums 2190]

The poll doesn't ask that people who already kos at current will you kos with new item degradation? ....if this was a kos'er only poll then it would be alot more relevant as then you would see who of those kos'ers would decide not to kos because of item degradation etc....but even then youll still get people voting who don't kos purely to tip the scales and make it look like people will stop kos to prove a point ( and they will do this make no mistake). So poll wont give you the the proper results it should in theory give you.

I'm pretty sure that:

'YES, even if i destroy all items, I want to killing and sniping players (I'm Bandit)'

Counts as KoS, it doesn't explicitly have to say 'I am going to KoS' - it describes exactly what you will do - in that sense it's biased TOWARDS KoS by giving you votes from both KoS players and people play as a bandit but don't KoS.

The poll isn't made to see what KoS only players will do, the poll is asking all players if they will KoS which (as predicted) is a very mixed bag with item degradation playing a large part in stopping 11% from KoS completely and forcing 23% of voters from KoSing straight away, forcing them to adapt their playstyle in order to not damage gear.

[dgeesio 1034]

what will basically happen is people wont risk being killed regardless of damage to gear they may get. so basically the people will still get killed 1st priority and anything else is a reward for surviving. it hasnt stopped the bandit or the KOS.

 

guy in front of you has ak you have a gun are you going to think about gear damage or just surviving first ? survival first and to helll with if the gear gets damamaged ! thats basically how it will roll. so it wont make no different whatsever .

 

its like a science equation being added to the game on paper anythnig can be done but does it actually work ? the short answer is it will have little or no effect at all on KOS. there is no proof to back it will stop people from firing at others for gear. also alot of people dont kos for gear its mainly for fun. so gear is always going to be secondary.

[brzator47@gmail.com 524]

Well, it obviously isn't designed to stop KoS for fun, nor is it intended to be THE solution to the KoS problem. You make it sound as if the moment you see someone, shooting at them is the only possible option whatever the circumstances. Of course I won't care about gear damage if I'm spotted and attacked by a hostile player. It will definitely have an effect if I spot someone first however.

[Death_Dealer 3155]

I can pretty much guarantee there will still be a lot of the KoS mentality similar to the mod in the SA. People don't give a fuck how rare loot is, they're going to get what they can and go murder others, like the mod

 

The poll even shows that 27% would rather kill anyone they see, regardless of if their gear gets destroyed or not. Only 26% will be friendly 

[dgeesio 1034]

KOS is here to stay

[h4yw1r3 64]

Yes.  I will KoS BECAUSE of the new item degradation system.  I tend to stay on foot.  Vehicles announce your presence.  Since they added wounds which slow the player due to boot wear and tear, I'll be killing everyone I see for a fresh pair.  Traveling on foot has plenty of disadvantages already.  I'll be damned if I'm going to be slowed and hindered more  just because I choose to travel on foot.  And since I don't aim for the feet, I should be able to collect some boots from player kills.

[PeNguiN (DayZ) 10]

It's funny how many people say they're friendly. As soon as they die 3 times from KOS, you know what they're gonna start doing.