Looting your own dead body

[Lordnib 0]

So I'll get to the point, I've watched a live stream of people playing DAYZ in a group and when one of them dies they just wait at his corpse for him to make his way back to them and then he loots all of his items back.

I think this needs to be fixed such as putting a ban on the items a player dies with that effects his account so his account can no longer loot those items unless someone else loots his corpse and gets said items and then by chance he finds this guy and kills him then the ban will be lifted and he could loot them again etc.

What's the point in having characters die if they can just get all their loot back again which is essentially the only important part of the character anyway, the body is just a sack of meat that has no importance.

I understand that since they are playing in a group they could rotate the items around to avoid the ban but they can only do that x amount of times before they can't use said items anymore.

[deceitfulburger 43]

That really seems dumb, what if you die by a glitch? Your reasoning is really off.

[Dreganius (DayZ) 55]

That's a bad idea. Why should people not be allowed to loot their own bodies? It doesn't make sense at all.

If you get shot by another player, chances are that most of your gear will be gone before you get back to your corpse anyway.

[Tallpoppy 19]

is each item going to have arecord of who it belong to. say i kill you and steal your crossbow then 20 minutes later while wandering around cherno i get killed by noob101 and he takes my crossbow. you kill noob101 5 minutes later and try to take his crossbow but it won't let you. you come to forums to rage that you can't loot a players corpse, when the simple reason is that you once held onto that item. be it 30 minutes ago or 5 days ago.

[Robert Shannon 27]

If you die out in the middle of a field and you go back to it and its still there with all your gear you will be grateful.

Bad Idea

[DemonGroover 8836]

I agree. It is one of the things i find to be a loophole. What is the point of death if you can loot your previous body, especially if you have friends to guard it so noone else loots it? It almost becomes Semi-death, you can be back on your feet in 30mins as if nothing happened.

It would be a bit hard to fix though - would you create a timer where your body or stuff disappears? Maybe flag the items so you couldnt use them again? I'm not sure it would be a terribly popular idea, especially with those who play in large groups. I think the best option is to have a chance of some equipment becoming broken when you get shot or fall etc.

[joaby 25]

You are a new person when you respawn. Personally, if you've ever died because you made the mistake of logging out in one of the Castles and you've then made the 30 minute sprint back to your body and all your stuff is still there... you earned that gear.

Edit - I realise there's some specious reasoning in my post (new person, earned gear) but mannnn, isn't it bad enough that you had to spend all that time running back to your corpse with the off chance that someone knicked it?

[DAS1337 20]

How is it a bad idea?

Think about it. Why should you be able to loot your own dead body after you DIED. You are dead. There should be no looting of YOUR dead body.

I agree with this. Your friends can pick up your gear. Bandits can take it and you can get lucky and kill them to regain lost items. But you shouldn't be able to loot yourself after you've died. If you actually think about it, it makes zero sense.

[Beemlord 1]

But you shouldn't be able to loot yourself after you've died. If you actually think about it' date=' it makes zero sense.

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Some cosmic force keeping you from looting your body would make even less sense than the paradoxical nature of looting your own body.

[DAS1337 20]

Uh, how is that? You are dead. You can't loot your own body because you are DEAD.

Why is this not sinking in?

[Tallpoppy 19]

ITS A GAME!

stop it with this terrible idea. if you want to play 1 life realism. then when you die after you first spawn your not allowed to play the game ever again.

[americanman1243@yahoo.com 1]

You're assuming the point of the game is to collect items.

It's not.

It's to survive for as many days and take down as many of the rotten bastards as you can.

[DAS1337 20]

I feel like the people opposed to this are just exploiters of that system. If I die, I accept that I made a mistake or someone got the jump on me. If my friends can retrieve my gear, great. If not, I start over and play as it was intended. I don't piss all over the forums about being able to get back the gear that I lost because I was stupid.

Okay.. I'm getting angry. Time to give the forums a break.

[joaby 25]

You've never died to a glitch, obviously. I'm not giving up my gear because a zombie kills me by hitting me through a floor or because spawning in some buildings gets you killed immediately.

[nashable 45]

I hear what you're saying that it seems paradoxical to be able to just run back and loot your own corpse. I also agree the game needs some form of item deflation as the veteran/high end players are quickly building a power gap that will never be caught by newer players entering now (until the next character reset).

Unfortunately though the Meta-game of the scenario you described just makes this a pain in the ass for any player in a group.

If you 'locked' items from a specific GUID then you get the unusual issue of players trading or chain banditry and being unable to loot. If you lock on death then in a group I just camp my dead groupmates body until he gets back, i then proceed to loot items off of the corpse and drop onto the ground for them to pick up. Didn't stop me meta-gaming the system and it just annoys players not in a group.

If you wanted a straight up penalty for dying (which re-reading your post is what it seemed you were frustrated by, players in groups dying and having no negative impact) then perhaps the best idea would be to have some items destroyed on death.

Edit: As the poster made the good point above. With all the technical issues right now in the game, any punitive death mechanic beyond what we have now would seem even more extreme.

[DAS1337 20]

You've never died to a glitch' date=' obviously. I'm not giving up my gear because a zombie kills me by hitting me through a floor or because spawning in some buildings gets you killed immediately.

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I actually died the other day with a military grade sniper rifle, a MP5 and a m1911. It was the best gear I ever had in the game so far.

I was crouched in a shack when a zombie alerted me without being able to see or hear me. It glitched through the wall, broke my leg, while his buddies also were hitting me through the wall.

So curb your elitism comments.

I accepted that I shouldn't have been in that shack with what I was carrying and started over. My friend could not risk retrieving my gear in his state of health.

It happens.

[DemonGroover 8836]

It is a loophole and i dont think it can be easily resolved. I know that if i died with an M4, NVG's, GPS and some other rare gear i would be very tempted to run straight back to my body, even though i am against it because of it being unrealistic.

I think the mechanic of gear getting damaged is the best option.

[joaby 25]

You've never died to a glitch' date=' obviously. I'm not giving up my gear because a zombie kills me by hitting me through a floor or because spawning in some buildings gets you killed immediately.

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I actually died the other day with a military grade sniper rifle, a MP5 and a m1911. It was the best gear I ever had in the game so far.

I was crouched in a shack when a zombie alerted me without being able to see or hear me. It glitched through the wall, broke my leg, while his buddies also were hitting me through the wall.

So curb your elitism comments.

I accepted that I shouldn't have been in that shack with what I was carrying and started over. My friend could not risk retrieving my gear in his state of health.

It happens.

I died because my net dropped out while I was in Zub and when I spawned back in I had spawned 10m above the ground and I died. One of us has all his gear back because he legged it back to Zub and the other one has a smug sense of stoic superiority. I'm ok with how this worked out.

[Tyrog 10]

People are WAY too attached to their precious gear.

I like that idea.

[pvt_ammo@hotmail.com 164]

I like to this of this as a "get out of jail free card" There are many things that could affect you getting your gear back from your corpse. Someone else could find it and loot it. You don't get back to your body in time. You get killed and have to respawn which causes your previous body to disappear.

Also running from spawn with absolutely nothing to far into the map isn't as easy as you make out, depending on where you die. Being shot at by others or pulling zeds without a weapon can be a real kicker, not to mention if you can't find food or drink while searching for your corpse.

Also this wouldn't have any effect on players in groups as they can simple get their friends to loot the body.

The only thing I would suggest would be to make player corpses sink sooner. I think the current time is 15 minutes which is enough time for someone to sprint cfrom one side of the map to the other.

[Dreganius (DayZ) 55]

Uh' date=' how is that? You are dead. You can't loot your own body because you are DEAD.

Why is this not sinking in?

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Er, because it's a fucking dumb premise? How are we DEAD if we are obviously ALIVE in a new body? I'm all for realism, but what you've proposed is even more unrealistic as the problem you stated!

You respawn as a 'new person', so why exactly should that 'new person' say "Oh, I won't loot this body that I found, for some wierd cosmic reason"?

Sure, you, as the player, guided this new person there, after knowing where you died as your last character, but realistically there's even LESS of a reason as to why we shouldn't be able to loot our own corpses as to why we should. Think about that for a second.

[thales2010@live.com.au 6]

How is it a bad idea?

Think about it. Why should you be able to loot your own dead body after you DIED. You are dead. There should be no looting of YOUR dead body.

I agree with this. Your friends can pick up your gear. Bandits can take it and you can get lucky and kill them to regain lost items. But you shouldn't be able to loot yourself after you've died. If you actually think about it' date=' it makes zero sense.

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Simple its a bad idea because yes your character died, but heres the thing you are now a different character not the one that died but an entirely new character (rocket himself has said this). To solve this problem how about when you die you shoot yourself in the head IRL.

in all Seriousness though if you manage to get to your previous characters corpse and its not looted and/or despawned by all means that gear is yours why the hell should this be changed, I personally think that this has been suggested just so OP doesnt have to worry about the 3% of the community with NVGs.