Here me out on this one, FOOD Chain in DayZ

[LancerG2 369]

So what if in DayZ you could play as an animal?

You could pick by a select few (Dog, bear, rabbit, bird) and maintain survival. And you may be thinking "What threatens an animal, and it can be a lot of things, hunger, thirst, home, humans and undead".

 

With this idea we would have most of our AI controlled animals but a few could be like controllable. Lets say you can play as a dog. Whenever you talk to other dogs you can hear each over just fine. However when it comes to other players you will only be heard barking. This could add a sort of trust system between man and dog. If the player doesn't feed you. Bite him or abandon him or whatever comes to your mind.

 

Or be a bear and be a total dick and eat all the food in a bandit camp and break their tents and maul/people and zombies or run around cherno and kill zombies for people. Also berries would be another source of food for bears you if you are hungry and a bear is hungry you better hope you pack a fucking truckload of firepower to shoot that bear in order to get your berries.

 

When it comes to a herbivore (Deer/rabbit) you have some defenses like charging into people but you mostly will graze grass and stuff. For a rabbit your basically weak as piss.

 

Also with the use of a hatchet + Animal head you could possibility make a trophy. Killing a rabbit and taking its foot could make you maybe "Lucky".

 

Just a short Idea I had. I see some potential in it.

Edited August 9, 2013 by LancerG2

[AP_Norris 1018]

I don't like the Idea of others being animals.

There just... Wouldn't be much to do.

[Wolfensteinsaurus 2252]

I wont be able to do executions...

[LancerG2 369]

True, yet maybe adding like a server limit on human to animal ratio?

 

I knew this wouldn't work, but it would add more of a trust feature to the game and more "Immersion".

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

I like the idea of there being a natural food chain/ecosystem in the game, I just think our place in that food chain as a player is as a human survivor.  People running round as deer, rabbits and bears etc. fills me with dread for many reasons.

 

If I'm ever running round Cherno and get trolled by a rat it's time for me to find another game I think.

[rossums 2190]

This is one of the more ridiculous suggestions I've read in a while.

It's a zombie survival sim, not SimDog.

[BwobBwub 660]

Deers in Cherno?

[LancerG2 369]

If I'm ever running round Cherno and get trolled by a rat it's time for me to find another game I think.

 

Then you do this to the rat.

 

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

But my immersion man!  

[AP_Norris 1018]

Deers in Cherno?

No just bambi's

[The Friendly Bandit 137]

This is one of the more ridiculous suggestions I've read in a while.

It's a zombie survival sim, not SimDog.

 

It may not be a particularly viable idea for the interests of DayZ, but it's not by any mans a bad idea and I believe it could be very interesting if done correctly. Theres no need to trash it, this is far better than the standard "I got killed by a hill sniper, fuck bandits" or "Hacker just killed me, fuck hackers"

[Korsbaek 1778]

This has been suggested before. I still don't like the idea. I also don't think anyone would be stupid enough to play as an animal. 

Why play as an animal with claws and teeth as defense, when you could have a rifle?

[TheLastEmp 295]

I'm imagining myself as a rabbit sprinting all over cherno identifying the locations of players for my buddy (survivor) who is trying to raid some loot without getting killed.

 

I think its a really interesting idea.  Probably not one that belongs in this game, but I'd be really interested to see it implemented elsewhere.  I think, if done right, it would be really, really fun.

[GoldenPSP 24]

Only if your controls work as if you had the intelligence of said animal.  IE, as a rabbit you run away at the sign of danger.

[carbine781 (DayZ) 131]

This could be interesting though there isn't much to do really. Plus, DayZ is about survival (or it uses to be), not grazing.

[rossums 2190]

It may not be a particularly viable idea for the interests of DayZ, but it's not by any mans a bad idea and I believe it could be very interesting if done correctly. Theres no need to trash it, this is far better than the standard "I got killed by a hill sniper, fuck bandits" or "Hacker just killed me, fuck hackers"

It has no place in DayZ - it adds no value, wastes development time and doesn't match the style of the game whatsoever.

It may be an interesting idea but do you really think it has any worth in DayZ? It's different from the usual crap but a bit.. too different.

[LancerG2 369]

This could be interesting though there isn't much to do really. Plus, DayZ is about survival (or it uses to be), not grazing.

 

Yeah grazing is getting food. And food = alive.

Besides I've always wanted to be a bear and be a massive dick bag and hide in a cave and kill people and maul the shit out of them while listening to something like this.

 

 

Also maybe auto features could be implemented with some animals. For example as a bear if you where shot at you could be turned onto rage mode where damage and stamina could be increased so if some asshole shoots you, you get the bears instinct to kill the shithead that shot you.

 

For a rabbit if somebody shot a gun your instincts kick in where you can scurry as fast as possible away from danger.

 

As a bird you could fly at instinct and if you where a eagle, falcon, raven, etc you could swoop people and do some pain. At your expense to getting killed.

 

Not to mention as a player this would make it more interesting if hunting for food. You would have to think what the animal would do in their attempt of escape...

[SalamanderAnder (DayZ) 1747]

No. Animals should be ai controlled, plain and simple. But I do think there should be a food chain. Scavenger animals, like ravens, vultures, rats. We also need deer, and some predatory animals might be cool, like the Eurasian wolf and maybe certain types of bear. Could be a threat to both other animals and players. More wildlife in general would really make the game "pop" for me. I want to be able to hunt, and I mean really hunt. Deer should be fucking hard to sneak up on and kill.

[h3l1x 327]

Very bad idea, waste of resources, reminds me of l4d2. Also highly exploitable as a group of bandits could have one guy playing as a crow, scouting a whole area and reporting players' moves to this team via teamspeak.

 

Completely agree with Salamander (not the first time). Also wild boars should be hard as hell to take down, in real life they're really tough and aggressive, especially if they feel threatened. Now it's like they're burgers on feet. They should charge you and also need some > caliber to go down. For example, taking down a boar with a hatchet, or a 9mm weapon is just not feasible. They got very thick skin and can endure small caliber ammo easily. Generally wild animals should be hard to take down as is in real life.

 

Also, for the love of god, some mod or OP change "here" to "hear" in the title.

[AP_Norris 1018]

Very bad idea, waste of resources, reminds me of l4d2. Also highly exploitable as a group of bandits could have one guy playing as a crow, scouting a whole area and reporting players' moves to this team via teamspeak.

 

Completely agree with Salamander (not the first time). Also wild boars should be hard as hell to take down, in real life they're really tough and aggressive, especially if they feel threatened. Now it's like they're burgers on feet. They should charge you and also need some > caliber to go down. For example, taking down a boar with a hatchet, or a 9mm weapon is just not feasible. They got very thick skin and can endure small caliber ammo easily. Generally wild animals should be hard to take down as is in real life.

 

Also, for the love of god, some mod or OP change "here" to "hear" in the title.

I don't think the caliber or weapon matters too much if you hit them in the head.

But they should be very aggressive and actually run off.

[h3l1x 327]

I don't think the caliber or weapon matters too much if you hit them in the head.

But they should be very aggressive and actually run off.

 

They're no chickens man. They won't even take a scratch from a 9mm handgun. Just read the following.

 

Best Shots

 

Ideally, a shot on a broadside boar should be placed in the shoulder area, and lower is preferable. Just be careful not to aim so low that you shoot under the swine. If the animal is quartering towards or away from you, you'll want to place the shot so the bullet will end up in the vitals between the shoulders. Naturally, this requires a bullet that will penetrate well.

Much talk has been put forth about shooting hogs in the head, and that can definitely be a killing shot, provided you hit the brain. Make note of the fact that a hog's brain is a small target, and is well protected by its thick skull. Here again, a tough bullet with good penetration is key.

 

22 Rimfire?

 

The old "behind-the-ear-with-a-22" story is one that I believe has been talked about much more than it has been successfully practiced. In a slaughter situation where the shooter is close to the boar, there's no doubt that it can work, but it's certainly not foolproof, and shouldn't be tried at a distance. Bullets used in rimfire cartridges, especially 22 long rifle, are usually quite soft, and don't penetrate well. Such a bullet will flatten out on the bone of the skull and won't get the job done.

 

Taken from here. Also notice the article is talking about .22 magnum rifle cartidges and almost point blank range. Now imagine trying a headshot with a 9mm pistol at a charging boar, completely suicidal. Might as well use a slingshot, no difference.

Edited August 10, 2013 by h3l1x

[AP_Norris 1018]

They're no chickens man. They won't even take a scratch from a 9mm handgun. Just read the following.

 

Best Shots

 

Ideally, a shot on a broadside boar should be placed in the shoulder area, and lower is preferable. Just be careful not to aim so low that you shoot under the swine. If the animal is quartering towards or away from you, you'll want to place the shot so the bullet will end up in the vitals between the shoulders. Naturally, this requires a bullet that will penetrate well.

Much talk has been put forth about shooting hogs in the head, and that can definitely be a killing shot, provided you hit the brain. Make note of the fact that a hog's brain is a small target, and is well protected by its thick skull. Here again, a tough bullet with good penetration is key.

 

22 Rimfire?

 

The old "behind-the-ear-with-a-22" story is one that I believe has been talked about much more than it has been successfully practiced. In a slaughter situation where the shooter is close to the boar, there's no doubt that it can work, but it's certainly not foolproof, and shouldn't be tried at a distance. Bullets used in rimfire cartridges, especially 22 long rifle, are usually quite soft, and don't penetrate well. Such a bullet will flatten out on the bone of the skull and won't get the job done.

 

Taken from here. Also notice the article is talking about .22 magnum rifle cartidges and almost point blank range. Now imagine trying a headshot with a 9mm pistol at a charging boar, completely suicidal. Might as well use a slingshot, no difference.

I find it hard to believe that multiple headshots from a 9mm would do nothing to a boar.

It might be one of the smallest calibers but hey wear a ballistic vest on your face and tell me how in it you are after I shoot you there.

[klesh 2423]

This is just some fucked up ploy to play as a pony, isn't it?

[h3l1x 327]

I find it hard to believe that multiple headshots from a 9mm would do nothing to a boar.

It might be one of the smallest calibers but hey wear a ballistic vest on your face and tell me how in it you are after I shoot you there.

 

Comparing your face to a boar's face is completely false. Also "I find it hard to believe..." is not an argument. Do a search for boar slugs, see how massive they are, the expanding/rotational technologies they use, the air pockets etc and then compare that to a 9mm bullet. Might as well google for a wild boar pic, as you seem to not know exactly what we're talking about, these things are beasts, not piggies.

[wisper 61]

So, if I like bandit and see a nice camp, I can log as viper → slither in → poison everybody → relog as bandid → loot the s#!t out of the place?... don't think so.