Disarm people while they are unconscious [SA]

[Wayze 549]

I hate in in the mod when you shoot a player with a weapon and he is unconscious you are forced to kill him because he could kill you after waking up. Would be really great if a player is unconscious you could take his weapon and throw it away. Then you could fix him up and let him go.

Edited July 5, 2013 by Wayze

[harley001 315]

I hate in in the mod when you shoot a player with a weapon and he is unconscious you are forced to kill him

Why would you shoot someone you have no intention of killing. Yeesh, is that your way of saying friendly?

Edited July 5, 2013 by harley001

[Wayze 549]

Why would you shoot someone you have no intention of killing. Yeesh, is that your way of saying friendly?

Go to youtube, type in Frankieonpc and watch his videos. He is doing it all the time. Shooting someone to knock him out, then help him up again and getting friends.

I am not sure if you even have played Dayz. If I am on a server with rare items (not these 1000 DMR per barrack servers) and I have high end gear I wont take the risk of being killed by someone because I try to be friendly. I shoot him so we both can survive it, it is as easy as that.

And there are so many situations where you are in a firefight, have you never killed a player? Most of the times you just see each other and think "Sh*t, I dont know if he is friendly, if I wont shoot now I am probably dead" and you just shoot. What should you do, wait for him to shot you because of the same reason you would?

[harley001 315]

Go to youtube, type in Frankieonpc and watch his videos. He is doing it all the time. Shooting someone to knock him out, then help him up again and getting friends.

I am not sure if you even have played Dayz. If I am on a server with rare items (not these 1000 DMR per barrack servers) and I have high end gear I wont take the risk of being killed by someone because I try to be friendly. I shoot him so we both can survive it, it is as easy as that.

And there are so many situations where you are in a firefight, have you never killed a player? Most of the times you just see each other and think "Sh*t, I dont know if he is friendly, if I wont shoot now I am probably dead" and you just shoot. What should you do, wait for him to shot you because of the same reason you would?

I think you need to take a really big chill pill and calm down. It was a joke and I was pointing out a flaw in your logic.

1. If you don't want to kill him just avoid him.

2. If you meet at point blank and shoot him then just sprint away. If he gets knocked out from a gunshot it WILL last long enough for you get away. Its the knockouts from low blood that are very short.

3. ...Yes I have watched Frankieoncpc. So? Don't assume watching a big youtuber means you know shizz. He is just one man playing dayz. He is not a guideline and most people who try to replicate his style end up dead. Its to play dayz in a way that works best for you.

4. If you wan't to help someone shooting them is never a good start. What if he is low on blood and you kill him?

Edited July 5, 2013 by harley001

[Wayze 549]

I think you need to take a really big chill pill and calm down. It was a joke and I was pointing out a flaw in your logic.

I am pretty calm, and I just pointed out your flaw in your genious joke.

1. If you don't want to kill him just avoid him.

You have been playing DayZ from the beginning? Are you kidding me? xD

Sure, avoid a player if you are face to face in a supermarket with him. What you gonna do? Combat log?

2. If you meet at point blank and shoot him then just sprint away. If he gets knocked out from a gun shots it WILL last long enough for you get away. Its the knockouts from low blood that are very short.

You don't get the point, I actually want to help the guy who I just shot. If I sprint away he could die or just be helpless because of low blood. And what if I want to stay there, because I want loot the city for example. What should I do, just let him there and be killed by him later on?

3. ...Yes I have watched Frankieoncpc. So? Don't assume watching a big youtuber means you know shizz. Even he has made mistakes (remember his videos are highly edited so it doesn't show them, that and 90% of the people in dayz being idiots tends to make the smart people survive)

What the hell has this to do with my knowledge about Dayz? I played the game way too long to let me tell that "Shoting sombody is unfriendly", don't expect a good answere if you making stupid jokes.

4. If you wan't to help someone shooting them is never a good start. What if he is low on blood and you kill him?

Like I said I dont believe that you even played Dayz for 1 minute, it looks more like you have watched a bandit youtube series or whatever. I have been in hundrets of situations where I had to shot somebody just because I could not take the risk.

You forget the most important factor, it is not that I am a bandit. But in most of the cases the other guy is thinking exactly the same as me. He thinks that I think that he is a threat, so he has to shot me even if he wants to team up. There are situations where you can not avoid this and if you have played dayz more than 2 days you would know that.

[Skat3rat 1633]

Yeah it'd be pretty cool to disarm someone while they're unconscious. I'd only do it though if I was trying to take someone hostage though. If I shoot at someone it is only because I'm trying to kill them. Especially if they shot at me first. I've taken someone hostage once or twice. I don't do it often and it doesn't work all that well either. Maybe if we were able to disarm other players it would make for more hostage/prisoner type situations.

[harley001 315]

I am pretty calm, and I just pointed out your flaw in your genious joke.

You have been playing DayZ from the beginning? Are you kidding me? xD

Sure, avoid a player if you are face to face in a supermarket with him. What you gonna do? Combat log?

You don't get the point, I actually want to help the guy who I just shot. If I sprint away he could die or just be helpless because of low blood. And what if I want to stay there, because I want loot the city for example. What should I do, just let him there and be killed by him later on?

What the hell has this to do with my knowledge about Dayz? I played the game way too long to let me tell that "Shoting sombody is unfriendly", don't expect a good answere if you making stupid jokes.

Like I said I dont believe that you even played Dayz for 1 minute, it looks more like you have watched a bandit youtube series or whatever. I have been in hundrets of situations where I had to shot somebody just because I could not take the risk.

You forget the most important factor, it is not that I am a bandit. But in most of the cases the other guy is thinking exactly the same as me. He thinks that I think that he is a threat, so he has to shot me even if he wants to team up. There are situations where you can not avoid this and if you have played dayz more than 2 days you would know that.

Last thing I am saying because I don't want this thread to become just you and me arguing.

For one stop accusing me of not playing dayz. I have played quite a bit of dayz and I don't mean to brag but I am pretty sure I know my shizz from experience. I am trying to HELP YOU by offering you some suggestions to avoid killing people you don't want to, so stop getting angry because I am not agreeing with you.

If you really want to know how to avoid having to shoot people then here. This is something I have saved in my notepad folders that i sent to my friend when he asked for advice. I will just copy and paste it in here.

1. Check your buildings before you go in. Use third person to your advantage. If you are on a first person only server like I usually play on then lean around your corners. If someone is in there then unless he is Clint Eastwood you should be able to get out of his line of sight before he can shoot. Then use chat to talk him from outside the building. TIP: Type what you want to say if you don't want him to hear the direction of your voice.

2. If he is friendly, cool you found a buddy. Its up to your instinct to determine the truth from lie. I find the best way to see if he is a bandit is to just to see how he behaves. Poke around the corner and see if he aims his sights down you or if he tries to shoot you. If you lean correctly and use proper cover he shouldn't hit you. Another trick is to say your leaving and then hide near the entrance and see if he comes out looking for you. IF he comes outside the building and looks around for you. Odds are that he was planning on shooting you from the back.

3. If you suddenly run into someone there are a few things you can do. 1. When 2 players bump into each other all of a sudden there is usually a lot of confusion. If you use use this to your advantage I find you get get into another room or into some cover most of the time because he won't react fast enough. 2. If you do shoot him and he gets knocked out he is going to be out for probably around 15 seconds, or he will die if his blood was low. You can be a hero and bandage and transfuse him or you can leave. Odds are when your done patching him up you will still have 7-9 seconds before he wakes up. Doesn't seem like a lot but if you are a building that is plenty of time to get out of the building. Or you could go behind him and tell him not to turn around when he wakes up. 3. You can't save them all. If you are in electro or cherno and just fired off your dinner bell then I would just leave. You are going to have zombies and players coming for you and there is no point and both of you dieing.

4. You ARE going to die from being betrayed and you WILL have to kill people. That is just how dayz is. There is no way to avoid it.

Also use the search function. There are plenty of suggestions which are pretty much the same thing.

OH WAIT THERE A SUGGESTION IN HERE.

I would like the ability to loot unconscious people... Kicking away a gun would be cool too. I was even considering deleting this and copy and pasting it for another time but...I typed it already.

Also, if this was added in. Trust me it would do more harm then good. It would be used more for hold ups then helping players. BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE WHO HELP PLAYERS DON'T SHOOT THEM!

Edited July 5, 2013 by harley001

[applejaxc 2500]

So instead of putting the weapon in your inventory (I'm guessing a jacket isn't going to have room for an AR), you just chuck it like a phyx object left, right, or behind you? That would be interesting! Hall keeps talking about how everything is going to be a vehicle, I think this idea would work.

[Wayze 549]

Last thing I am saying because I don't want this thread to become just you and me arguing.

For one stop accusing me of not playing dayz. I have played quite a bit of dayz and I don't mean to brag but I am pretty sure I know my shizz from experience. I am trying to HELP YOU by offering you some suggestions to avoid killing people you don't want to, so stop getting angry because I am not agreeing with you.

1. Check your buildings before you go in. Use third person to your advantage. If you are on a first person only server like I usually play on then lean around your corners. If someone is in there then unless he is Clint Eastwood you should be able to get out of his line of sight before he can shoot. Then use chat to talk him from outside the building. TIP: Type what you want to say if you don't want him to hear the direction of your voice.

2. If he is friendly, cool you found a buddy. Its up to your instinct to determine the truth from lie. I find the best way to see if he is a bandit is to just to see how he behaves. Poke around the corner and see if he aims his sights down you or if he tries to shoot you. If you lean correctly and use proper cover he shouldn't hit you. Another trick is to say your leaving and then hide near the entrance and see if he comes out looking for you. IF he comes outside the building and looks around for you. Odds are that he was planning on shooting you from the back.

3. If you suddenly run into someone there are a few things you can do. 1. When 2 players bump into each other all of a sudden there is usually a lot of confusion. If you use use this to your advantage I find you get get into another room or into some cover most of the time because he won't react fast enough. 2. If you do shoot him and he gets knocked out he is going to be out for probably around 15 seconds, or he will die if his blood was low. You can be a hero and bandage and transfuse him or you can leave. Odds are when your done patching him up you will still have 7-9 seconds before he wakes up. Doesn't seem like a lot but if you are a building that is plenty of time to get out of the building. Or you could go behind him and tell him not to turn around when he wakes up. 3. You can't save them all. If you are in electro or cherno and just fired off your dinner bell then I would just leave. You are going to have zombies and players coming for you and there is no point and both of you dieing.

4. You ARE going to die from being betrayed and you WILL have to kill people. That is just how dayz is. There is no way to avoid it.

Also use the search function. There are plently of suggestions which are pretty much the same thing.

I know that there are ways to avoid people, but not everyone is playing the game for 500h+ like us. And the playstyle could change immensly by just implementing this option. Sure you going to die, but you don't have to get a bandit. Many players are getting a bandit because of exactly the reasons I told you. They dont want to risk it, simple as that. If you can unarm a player you don't have to risk anything. In DayZ Standalone there are not just the weapon. You have your character, your clothers you found, maybe some really cool stuff and you don't want to lose it. Maybe you don't even want the other player to lose it because you are not that cruel. And what should you do in that situation? Leave him alive and he will kill u eventually, kill him and you are a bandit.

Yes Applejaxc, I even forgot this point. The important thing about unarming a player is to keep it fast and not "open your inventory, put your weapon on the ground, take the weapon from the other player, put it on the ground, take your weapon..." just a simple "throw the weapons away from him" and done. Would be really cool to see that in SA later on!

[Rekli 995]

Can we discuss the actual fucking suggestion instead of arguing?

Taking knocked out player's guns SHOULD be added.

[harley001 315]

Can we discuss the actual fucking suggestion instead of arguing?

Taking knocked out player's guns SHOULD be added.

I think we both got carried away there. Sorry about that I am 89% asleep here. Anyways.

I am pretty sure this is one of those "self explanatory" things. Looting unconscious players I am 90% sure is going to be in standalone. Then if you want to disarm someone just shove their gun in your backpack or...something. But we do need some way of disarming players. Instead of this weird "no touchy" shield unconscious players have. (expect for the backpack. Any idiot can steal from a backpack in dayz)

Edited July 5, 2013 by harley001

[jaytmuk (DayZ) 621]

Sounds like a good idea, Ignore the troll

[iannesby 1]

land mines? mean but if your that worried. i dont think they are going to get u if their pc is turned off etheir we all have other things to do