Crossbow

[EndEffeKt 87]

Hey Folks,

I know that most of you probably couldnt care less about a non-pvp weapon like the crossbow, but maybe I will find one or another interessted person here :)

I personally loved the playstyle of the survival-specialist with his crossbow, taking out Zeds and scavenging villages. The addition of the Quiver is great and increases the viability of the weapon a lot. But there are still some points which I dont understand or that need some tweaking in my opinion. Lets look at the crossbows pros and cons first:

Pro:

-Silent

-Ammo can be found everywhere

-Kills normal Zeds with 1hit

Cons:

-Effective range of ~30m

-No real ironsight/scope

-The big drop of the arrows requires practice

-Slow projectile speed

-Headshots over some distance are a gambling

So overall the crossbow looks desastrous in regards of pvp, but is a good weapon vs. Zeds especially while beeing on a scavenging tour in the villages. Now we got the addition of viral/infected Zeds that are freakin dangerous and have a good bunch of hp compared to their normal brothers. Yesterday I hit one of the in the arm and chest with all my 3 arrows and it was still standing -.-" Left me completely out of ammo and grinned at me. In the end I shouldve tried a headshot, but I dont need to tell you, thats quite a difficult thing to do. Did i just hit bad or are the virals really tanking 3 arrows? I personally think that the damage of the crossbow could be a bit higher regarding this new threat. What do you think?

[m_mitchell 27]

Meh I think they should just remove the new threat or the viral zombie. I don't really agree with them. I mean it's not realistic! If a zombie was real then there certainly wouldn't be a magically better zombie now would there? Bullshit I say.

[JoeM (DayZ) 41]

Meh I think they should just remove the new threat or the viral zombie. I don't really agree with them. I mean it's not realistic! If a zombie was real then there certainly wouldn't be a magically better zombie now would there? Bullshit I say.

If a zombie was real then I guess there could be anything of that sort.

[Target Practice (DayZ) 1335]

Meh I think they should just remove the new threat or the viral zombie. I don't really agree with them. I mean it's not realistic! If a zombie was real then there certainly wouldn't be a magically better zombie now would there? Bullshit I say.

No, you're right. The one thing I look for in my zombie apocalypse games is realism. You know, with accurate real-world zombie modelling based on real data that... meh, you get my point.

I don't mind whether people like or dislike the new virals, but for the love of sweet zombie jebus folks, DO NOT use 'it's not realistic' as an argument.

Anyway, on-topic, and yeah, I'd like to see the crossbow get a little bit of a buff, even if it was just a better sight of some kind - take a look at an actual crossbow being used sometime on a human analog (a dummy or a pig carcass or something) - that is going to do just as much, if not potentially more damage as a low to medium caliber round.

Edited June 17, 2013 by Target Practice

[WBK 176]

do just as much, if not potentially more damage as a low to medium caliber round.

I don't like quoting damage figures purely for the fact that it's not possible IRL to know specifically how much something will affect you. But the xbow does 5333 damage, greater than STANAG and AKM rounds. It only deals less damage than rifles, LMGs and high powered assault rifles.

That being said, I think they should return the shooting function back to how it was in 7.6.1, add sights and increase effective range to at least 50m. It is pretty useless atm.

Edited June 17, 2013 by WBK

[EndEffeKt 87]

I think the Crossbow is far from useless, but viral Zeds are a problem at the moment. I get better in giving them headshots, but bodyhits are just laughable.

EDIT: Until a week ago, I havent played for like 8 months. How was the crossbow in 7.6?

Edited June 17, 2013 by EndEffeKt

[Target Practice (DayZ) 1335]

Ah, fair enough - I didn't know the exact damage figures, but those seem pretty reasonable in context, so damage is fine it seems - as you suggest, a bit of a boost to range would be helpful though.

[ParaB 114]

My only problem with the xbow is that whenever I use one at least 50% of the arrows are not retrievable from Zs. Maybe I'm just unlucky but if I could retrieve arrows much more frequently I'd use the xbow a lot more.

[barrett_killz 229]

The crossbow sucks in the mod. Hope they make a better one in the standalone. I loved the one from the walking dead: survival instinct.

[fluxley 2228]

Meh I think they should just remove the new threat or the viral zombie. I don't really agree with them. I mean it's not realistic! If a zombie was real then there certainly wouldn't be a magically better zombie now would there? Bullshit I say.

Look at it this way, the viral zeds have nearly the same HP as the players, they're not buffed at all, it was just the original zeds were severely nerfed.

Edited June 17, 2013 by Fluxley

[Maloney (DayZ) 26]

Look at it this way, the viral zeds have nearly the same HP as the players, they're not buffed at all, it was just the original zeds were severely nerfed.

If this is so, it is entirely understandable. I'd just like them to be a lot scarier.

When it comes to the Xbow, if it isn't good against a player it probably wont work on a viral zed. Keep that in mind.

Edited June 17, 2013 by Maloney

[WBK 176]

Does the steel bolt have any different characteristics to the wooden arrow?

[p4triot 207]

I don't mind whether people like or dislike the new virals, but for the love of sweet zombie jebus folks, DO NOT use 'it's not realistic' as an argument.

Why not? When im seeing a movie I like it to be realism. And If it is a zombies genre film I would say "Ok! lets guess for a minute zombies are real! Would THAT happen as it is shown in the movie? would people act like the idiots they're acting (you know, the usual black guy who has to lose his mind without apparently reason just for him to have an horrifying dead)". "Would all be COMPLETETLY wrecked and destroyed and the cars/buildings on fire like if zombies had superpowers??"

If the zombies we're real, I for sure know most situtations shonw in movies wouldn't be real. The same applies to all the rest. Im not agree with the post of your quote, but just saying the "isn't realistic" argument is quite logical and make sense in most occasions.

[Target Practice (DayZ) 1335]

Why not? When im seeing a movie I like it to be realism. And If it is a zombies genre film I would say "Ok! lets guess for a minute zombies are real! Would THAT happen as it is shown in the movie? would people act like the idiots they're acting (you know, the usual black guy who has to lose his mind without apparently reason just for him to have an horrifying dead)". "Would all be COMPLETETLY wrecked and destroyed and the cars/buildings on fire like if zombies had superpowers??"

If the zombies we're real, I for sure know most situtations shonw in movies wouldn't be real. The same applies to all the rest. Im not agree with the post of your quote, but just saying the "isn't realistic" argument is quite logical and make sense in most occasions.

I think you're misunderstanding my intention. I'm not talking about the whole of DayZ when I say don't use the 'unrealistic' argument, as there's obviously a certain atmosphere and setting that the game has, and in general you want to keep things within that setting - for example, a laser gatling gun would be awesome, but completely out of place, because it's unrealistic for the setting.

Where I have an issue is when people say 'X zombie isn't realistic'. Why? What 'real' experience does that person have with zombies that qualifies them to make such a statement? Zombies are no more real than vampires, werewolves or ginger kids with friends, and therefore to claim that a specific interpretation of them isn't realistic is in itself a complete misnomer. Just like Frankenstein's monster, Dracula and any other character who's been committed to folklore down the years, each creator will put their own slant on the myth and modify it as they see it. Whether you like it or agree with it is down to the individual, but to suggest that a given interpretation is unrealistic just doesn't wash, as they are by their very nature unrealistic creations.