Ban for playing old versions

[Rinner23 5]

You are not here to have fun, you are here to alpha test. If you 'roll back your client' because you are not having fun then you are no longer participating in an alpha test.

If i was king (and that would be a terrible idea), you would all be banned permanently from this alpha test for 'Rolling back to a more funner game'.

I do love you all though, you whiney roller backing to a funner version non-alpha testers.

*smooch*

[oshi7 365]

[Legacy (DayZ) 1091]

Maybe they can't alpha test because the version screws with them? Not sure :V

[kittenses 6]

To say that you people aren't here to have fun is incredibly naive. If they aren't having fun, they aren't going to be here at all. Ultimately, it better serves the game to have people go back to older versions that they enjoy more rather than leaving the game entirely. If a large portion of people aren't upgrading, that's still a form of feedback.

It's really a little sad how common this fallacy is. Yes, the game is in alpha. No, that doesn't mean players should expect to suffer through playing. What it does mean is that they shouldn't jump down the developers' throats when something isn't right, because the game is not yet in a state where stability or polished features are a reasonable expectation.

[dale0404 16]

Actually people and servers rolling back to previous versions of the mod do harm the development and testing of the mod.

[Kain Phalanx 9]

Actually people and servers rolling back to previous versions of the mod do harm the development and testing of the mod.

Really? It's a rather huge sign that says the developers did something wrong. And plenty have stated their reasons for not playing current build.

[MrLizard 0]

Actually people and servers rolling back to previous versions of the mod do harm the development and testing of the mod.

That's a bit of an empty statement, care to back that up with some reasoning ?

how exactly does it harm development ?

[Euphe 1]

People want to play what's playable, they are here for their entertainment. They do not enjoy dieing, crashing all the time, loosing their 2 week characters because zombies have been granted superhero abilities

[thygrrr 1]

Seconding OP. Anyone refusing to test the current build should wait till Release.

[Keurk 4]

To say that you people aren't here to have fun is incredibly naive. If they aren't having fun' date=' they aren't going to be here at all. Ultimately, it better serves the game to have people go back to older versions that they enjoy more rather than leaving the game entirely. If a large portion of people aren't upgrading, that's still a form of feedback.

It's really a little sad how common this fallacy is. Yes, the game is in alpha. No, that doesn't mean players should expect to suffer through playing. What it does mean is that they shouldn't jump down the developers' throats when something isn't right, because the game is not yet in a state where stability or polished features are a reasonable expectation.

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this,very well said

[jdz (DayZ) 238]

There's enough of us playing the updated version anyway, seems like someone wants to kick up a fuss because he's bored.

[Hze 3]

Well tbh, i was playing the new build all day yesterday, yes i was having trouble but i didnt find the need to roll back, because it was still fun, i wasnt having serious issues not letting me play ( getting dced alot was annoying but playable ) I dont think many people rolling back have ever done an alpha test before.

[NobodieCro 11]

I HAVE A GREAT IDEA , lets just ban everyone ho enters a server and his ping is over 40 ?

That would be awesome because how can you test a mod if your lagging coz your ping is too high ?

-.-

[dale0404 16]

Actually people and servers rolling back to previous versions of the mod do harm the development and testing of the mod.

That's a bit of an empty statement' date=' care to back that up with some reasoning ?

how exactly does it harm development ?

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I wouldnt say its an empty statement mate and please lets keep this civil!! The reason I said that is because the dev team are rolling out updates on an (almost) daily basis it seems. These new updates are put out so that the testers (us) can do the testing and report back with bug reports and things that we do not like from a personal point of view.

If people dont like a feature of an update and revert back to a previous version then how can they report bugs or state reasons of why they like / hate the mod with any clarity?

The worst thing people can do it roll back to a previous version and then play on upto date servers. Then they come on these forums stating this isnt working or that sucks etc. The (probable) reason they have found something that is broke is because they are playing incompatible versions of the mod.

In all honestly, I would love to see all servers connected to the hive running the most upto date version of the mod. That way any bugs that are reported are actual bugs to do with the most recent build.

[Murow 1]

Actually people and servers rolling back to previous versions of the mod do harm the development and testing of the mod.

That's a bit of an empty statement' date=' care to back that up with some reasoning ?

how exactly does it harm development ?

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I wouldnt say its an empty statement mate and please lets keep this civil!! The reason I said that is because the dev team are rolling out updates on an (almost) daily basis it seems. These new updates are put out so that the testers (us) can do the testing and report back with bug reports and things that we do not like from a personal point of view.

If people dont like a feature of an update and revert back to a previous version then how can they report bugs or state reasons of why they like / hate the mod with any clarity?

The worst thing people can do it roll back to a previous version and then play on upto date servers. Then they come on these forums stating this isnt working or that sucks etc. The (probable) reason they have found something that is broke is because they are playing incompatible versions of the mod.

In all honestly, I would love to see all servers connected to the hive running the most upto date version of the mod. That way any bugs that are reported are actual bugs to do with the most recent build.

It's no use bro. This generation doesn't even what an actual "mod" is. Or even worse, an alpha version of a modification.

You can thank DICE, EA and Call of Duty for allowing us to modifiy their game. I miss the old HL1/2 modding times.

[dandut 0]

Not everyone who has heard about this mod is coming here specifically to 'test'.

They've heard about a great mod from friends or youtube videos or a website featuring it and want to play it.

If you are the type of person who doesn't mind alpha testing new versions regardless of how much fun you are actually having doing so, then great. Interest in this mod has exploded recently and there are plenty of people doing just this.

If you want to spend your time having fun and you have more fun playing an older release, i don't see what the issue is with people doing so.

As said above, the information taken from this is that the changes haven't been good for everyone and they will try newer versions as things are changed.

Please show a bit of respect for your fellow gamers and allow people to enjoy themselves the way they wish.

There is so much hate from veteran players on this forum about the moaning and complaints from newer players. You guys should realise that new players are the lifeblood of any game and you need to encourage and support these players if you hope to make this mod successful in the longer term.

[dale0404 16]

@dandut,

I realise what you are saying but I have to disagree, How can the mod move forward if players and worse server admins revert back to previous versions? There will be ups and downs with the testing process, of course there will. Some versions will be brilliant to play and people will be praising rocket and his team. Other versions will be really shit and rocket and his team will get flamed for it, of course they will.

But, this is a work in progress. People need to realise that this in fact is not a game. It is a proof of concept and will be for a long while yet.

[thealgerian 2]

Wait what?

You can actually get banned for playing older versions? o,O

[dandut 0]

Disagreeing is fine! I have no issue with people who believe their view is the right one and communicate it in a civilised manner. I respect your view and I understand the argument for testing is a strong one.

I'l leave this thread now with one more point.

The guy making this game had a vision to create an experience that people enjoy. I'm absolutely positive he would prefer people to enjoy playing an older version rather than leave the game totally due to not enjoying the latest version.

[DirtySpartan 5]

No one is here to "test." People bought Arma 2 OA to get dayZ and have FUN. And if there's a bug that interferes with their fun, they report it, which is in fact testing. The latest updates have screwed the game over. The zombies are way too OP now, servers are crashing all the time, items are disappearing.

Each new update "adds a feature" that ends up breaking everything that was working up until now. Imo Rocket should concentrate on fixing the existing bugs, before adding something that will create many new ones.

The whole thing is going downhill, and with the community already halfway in the shitter, things are not looking up. If somebody notices a bug or a broken game mechanic and makes a post about it, i.e zeds r OP plz fix nao, all he gets for replays is some retards pasting in their "This is an alpha,you are here to test/It's not a bug, it's intended you useless carebear/hurr durr l2p" copypasta, which isn't helping and is annoying the fuck out of everyone.

[MrLizard 0]

is the edit function messed up on this forum ?

I just made a post and tried to edit it and it got completely messed up .

:(

anyway back on topic.

I wouldnt say its an empty statement mate and please lets keep this civil!! The reason I said that is because the dev team are rolling out updates on an (almost) daily basis it seems. These new updates are put out so that the testers (us) can do the testing and report back with bug reports and things that we do not like from a personal point of view.

sorry didn't mean to appear hostile, I just wanted you to elaborate a bit.

If people dont like a feature of an update and revert back to a previous version then how can they report bugs or state reasons of why they like / hate the mod with any clarity?

The worst thing people can do it roll back to a previous version and then play on upto date servers. Then they come on these forums stating this isnt working or that sucks etc. The (probable) reason they have found something that is broke is because they are playing incompatible versions of the mod.

In all honestly, I would love to see all servers connected to the hive running the most upto date version of the mod. That way any bugs that are reported are actual bugs to do with the most recent build.

Whilst I agree with that for the most part, what happens if a certain build is completely broken by that what I mean is what happens if there's a bug that kills performance to the point where it's unplayable, or something pretty dire like that. Surely under those circumstances it'd be perfectly acceptable to go back to the previous build until a hotfix is released ?

Also what about being able to switch back and forth in order to make comparisons between certain features in different builds ?

I don't think you can just have a blanket ban on all previous versions because that's not always particularly useful either.

[dale0404 16]

Whilst I agree with that for the most part' date=' what happens if a certain build is completely broken by that what I mean is what happens if there's a bug that kills performance to the point where it's unplayable, or something pretty dire like that. Surely under those circumstances it'd be perfectly acceptable to go back to the previous build until a hotfix is released ?

Also what about being able to switch back and forth in order to make comparisons between certain features in different builds ?

I don't think you can just have a blanket ban on all previous versions because that's not always particularly useful either.

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If there was a major game breaking bug in a release it would be reported within 5 seconds on these forums. The dev team would look at it and react accordingly. If it is totally screwed then yes I would say roll back to the previous version.

But, so far there hasnt been any bugs of this kind. Yes there is the "zeds can see me from 4 quadzillion miles away" argument, but it is game breaking? The honest answer is no.

Before versions get released they are tested internally to make sure there arent any of these game breaking bugs. Yes it is a closed test with few people and maybe once it is released a game breaking bug appears. I posit a guess that thats when rocket et al will roll back.

But it hasnt happened yet.

[FullySikBro 0]

The reason why i play the old server is most of the Aus server are full and went i do have a chance to play it's really laggy or some fps bug happens

[bptrav 0]

Actually people and servers rolling back to previous versions of the mod do harm the development and testing of the mod.

That's a bit of an empty statement' date=' care to back that up with some reasoning ?

how exactly does it harm development ?

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I could see how it would harm development if EVERYONE rolled back to previous versions, but that's not the case. The vast majority of servers are running the newest versions, so there are still tens of thousands of people testing the newest version.

Whether there are 50,000 people testing it or 60,000 people testing it probably makes no difference. If 50,000 people don't catch a bug then the other 10,000 aren't going to either.

[JohnSmith (DayZ) 1]

No one is here to "test." People bought Arma 2 OA to get dayZ and have FUN.

No. You bought Arma 2 OA. Period.

You did not "buy" dayz, that one you are getting for free in exchange for your testing it with all its quirks and alpha state and whatnot.

Fun could still be part of the mix. Sometimes. Not always.

But you certainly can not demand "anything" from dayz itself...