u mad?

[Scarlet_Blade 12]

Post why, try to keep it clean-ish...

Hopefully this should be a somewhat venting thread / constructive criticism for the DayZ team...

inb4 this is an alpha

1) I lose more of my gear to the updates than I do to other players

2) The updates generally break things more than they fix.

3) Some of the updates seem a bit overdone (IE; buffing zombies, while taking away starting guns all in the same patch)

4) No real/clear installation instructions / or a updated thread on how to install things properly (I have to walk most of my friends through the installation process step by step)

[Dingus (DayZ) 429]

1)rawr i hate alphas

2)rawr i hate alphas

3)rawr i hate alphas

4)rawr what is a sticky

[srvrsyde 9]

1) don't

2) play

3) the

4) game

5) till

6) it's

7) released

8) as

9) final

10) then

11) you

12) cry

13) baby

seriously, grow up

[Kramartacus 7]

I agree with what I'm sure everyone else is going to say to you for trolling.. ^

[Jono (DayZ) 1]

I am very mad. Or maybe just drunk. Cheers!

[Jorden 63]

-snip-

Look at this jerkoff, acting like he's entitled to the mod.

Go away, we don't need you here.

[drayson 158]

People who say "I know its an alpha" then post crap like this are not very bright.

[TheGoldElite 0]

I think the reaction to this guy is unnessecary, he doesn't sound too ungrateful, the issues he mentions are legitimate in that they cause frustration sometimes. Yes it is alpha etc. This forum is very hostile, the reactions are often more immature than any rage/QQ

Can we be mature please?

[Dingus (DayZ) 429]

I think the reaction to this guy is unnessecary' date=' he doesn't sound too ungrateful, the issues he mentions are legitimate in that they cause frustration sometimes.

[/quote']

It's more a "Yes, we know" reaction. Like Chester Cheeta here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxWpU2IIzXI&t=0m25s

I'm not a mean person, the OP just creates a new thread to announce things we all know as being alpha testers. If these issues are not already reported to the bug forum, like I'm sure they already are, then it's kind of silly to discuss them a new here, in my opinion.

While, yes, it seems rather unjust to then jump on someone who makes a post like that, it's kind of irresistible.

[Scarlet_Blade 12]

Too many of you are on the "THIS IS AN ALPHA BANDWAGON RAWRRRRRRRR IM A PIRATE MEAN AND FIESTY"

If you'd stop and think for a minute before you post you'd realize i'm trying to rattle your brains for ideas to help out the devteam make the alpha a ... wait what... A BETTER ALPHA FOR YOU... but that's preposterous Scarlet_Blade you're a whiner, QQ'er about losing all your gearz

[srvrsyde 9]

Too many of you are on the "THIS IS AN ALPHA BANDWAGON RAWRRRRRRRR IM A PIRATE MEAN AND FIESTY"

If you'd stop and think a minute for a minute before you post you'd realize i'm trying to rattle your brains for ideas to help out the devteam make the alpha a ... wait what... A BETTER ALPHA FOR YOU... but that's preposterous Scarlet_Blade you're a whiner' date=' QQ'er about losing all your gearz

[/quote']

if you have ideas or want to discuss some ideas, there is a suggestion forum right. over. hurr --> http://dayzmod.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=7

post in there, leave your tears offline

[Jorden 63]

Too many of you are on the "THIS IS AN ALPHA BANDWAGON RAWRRRRRRRR IM A PIRATE MEAN AND FIESTY"

If you'd stop and think for a minute before you post you'd realize i'm trying to rattle your brains for ideas to help out the devteam make the alpha a ... wait what... A BETTER ALPHA FOR YOU... but that's preposterous Scarlet_Blade you're a whiner' date=' QQ'er about losing all your gearz

[/quote']

You sound stupid. You didn't pay for anything, you aren't entitled to anything Rocket develops. He is open to our suggestions and ideas but he is not here to listen to you whine about how you lost your shit. You're just a troll.

[Scarlet_Blade 12]

Too many of you are on the "THIS IS AN ALPHA BANDWAGON RAWRRRRRRRR IM A PIRATE MEAN AND FIESTY"

If you'd stop and think a minute for a minute before you post you'd realize i'm trying to rattle your brains for ideas to help out the devteam make the alpha a ... wait what... A BETTER ALPHA FOR YOU... but that's preposterous Scarlet_Blade you're a whiner' date=' QQ'er about losing all your gearz

[/quote']

if you have ideas or want to discuss some ideas, there is a suggestion forum right. over. hurr --> http://dayzmod.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=7

post in there, leave your tears offline

Again, sir you've missed my point

More or less what i'm trying to get at is the way to implement those ideas, not suggestions themself.

I'd take less updates over a longer period of time that were more stable and and well thought out.

[Jorden 63]

Again' date=' sir you've missed my point

More or less what i'm trying to get at is the way to implement those ideas, not suggestions themself.

I'd take less updates over a longer period of time that were more stable and and well thought out.

[/quote']

You're missing the point of Alpha still. An alpha lifecycle consists of rapid code pushing and bug patching.

What you want is more along the lines of a released title.

[xls.akm@gmail.com 0]

Too many of you are on the "THIS IS AN ALPHA BANDWAGON RAWRRRRRRRR IM A PIRATE MEAN AND FIESTY"

If you'd stop and think a minute for a minute before you post you'd realize i'm trying to rattle your brains for ideas to help out the devteam make the alpha a ... wait what... A BETTER ALPHA FOR YOU... but that's preposterous Scarlet_Blade you're a whiner' date=' QQ'er about losing all your gearz

[/quote']

if you have ideas or want to discuss some ideas, there is a suggestion forum right. over. hurr --> http://dayzmod.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=7

post in there, leave your tears offline

Again, sir you've missed my point

More or less what i'm trying to get at is the way to implement those ideas, not suggestions themself.

I'd take less updates over a longer period of time that were more stable and and well thought out.

There is a suggestion and bug forum for that, write a more detailed post in one of those if you want it implemented. What you're writing in this thread is not "ideas", its just pure whine.

Oh almost forgot.. ALPHA.

[Scarlet_Blade 12]

Again' date=' sir you've missed my point

More or less what i'm trying to get at is the way to implement those ideas, not suggestions themself.

I'd take less updates over a longer period of time that were more stable and and well thought out.

[/quote']

You're missing the point of Alpha still. An alpha lifecycle consists of rapid code pushing and bug patching.

What you want is more along the lines of a released title.

Possibly, yes about the released title, but isn't it much more logical to take the time release a stabler hotfix than a string of what, 4 hotfixes in the last 3 days? By the end of the day he's just broken more things which he may choose not to keep in the game later.

[Dingus (DayZ) 429]

♫ ♫ ♫ Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum. ♫ ♫ ♫

[acebane 268]

Scarlet, I'm sure your intentions are good but as someone posted on the first page... When we have 10000 people posting very similar threads to this, we(Forum Community) tend to become engulfed in a rage with any future posts that contain the same content. I suggest that you do not make threads that have troll titles such as "U mad", don't make threads that report problems that have been reported several times and instead make threads with possible fixes. I know that's hard to do, but that's also why I don't make threads telling everyone about my unfortunate events. So I recommend joining in on threads with debatable fixes to problems and throwing your input there. Making new threads for things like this has already happen 10000 times over.

Also, WHATEVER YOU DO... Don't be the guy to say "omg, u guiz use the 'this is alpha' excuse way 2 much." because you WILL get harassed and mistreated. It's an alpha..... That'll be said 1039193 more times in the future because IT IS AN ALPHA!! lol. Rocket is amazing for being able to trick the masses into thinking this ISN'T an alpha... Alpha is usually closed and has only 100 testers for this exact reason. General public can't handle playing a game to bug-report on.. Instead they care about themselves and their fun levels. Oh... Day Z, how I love you.

[Rinner23 5]

the issues he mentions are legitimate in that they cause frustration sometimes.

Don't you realize, this game is all about causing frustration.. it's about pissing you off, about making you mad... so mad you can't take it anymore, and then do one of several things:

* Cry and run away to a different game/experience.

* Cry and come post in the forums about crying.

* Cry and start over.

You see, we all cry when we loose our beans, even if it's just deep inside.. we all cry. It's what we do next that matters. For example, I cry then immediately take it out on everyone else who is not dead.

*smooch*

[Jorden 63]

Also' date=' WHATEVER YOU DO... Don't be the guy to say "omg, u guiz use the 'this is alpha' excuse way 2 much." because you WILL get harassed and mistreated. It's an alpha..... That'll be said 1039193 more times in the future because IT IS AN ALPHA!! lol. Rocket is amazing for being able to trick the masses into thinking this ISN'T an alpha... Alpha is usually closed and has only 100 testers for this exact reason. General public can't handle playing a game to bug-report on.. Instead they care about themselves and their fun levels. Oh... Day Z, how I love you.

[/quote']

This, 1000000x this.

People treat it like a finished mod. It isn't. Hotfixes and rolling updates are necessary for game-breaking bugs.

[Rowrin 2]

1) I lose more of my gear to the updates than I do to other players

-yes, it is alpha, it is buggy, it isn't finished, there are things that need to be worked out, it is alpha wait till beta, or wait till release. The point of the alpha is to get concepts implemented and then fix bugs that occur with that implementation.

2) The updates generally break things more than they fix.

-that is the point, the updates put in new content that the devs are working on, they want the players to look for bugs so that they can fix them before moving on to add more content. A small team can catch only so many bugs. it takes a large amount of players, who do things no dev can predict to find all the bugs and exploits in a current build, thus an alpha. alpha is for building and fixing, beta is for tweaking.

3) Some of the updates seem a bit overdone (IE; buffing zombies, while taking away starting guns all in the same patch)

-alpha is for building/fixing beta is for tweaking and balancing. the game is still way in the development process, once all the content is largely there, then the primary focus will likely be balancing.

4) No real/clear installation instructions / or a updated thread on how to install things properly (I have to walk most of my friends through the installation process step by step)

google is friend:

[srvrsyde 9]

Again' date=' sir you've missed my point

More or less what i'm trying to get at is the way to implement those ideas, not suggestions themself.

I'd take less updates over a longer period of time that were more stable and and well thought out.

[/quote']

You're missing the point of Alpha still. An alpha lifecycle consists of rapid code pushing and bug patching.

What you want is more along the lines of a released title.

Possibly, yes about the released title, but isn't it much more logical to take the time release a stabler hotfix than a string of what, 4 hotfixes in the last 3 days? By the end of the day he's just broken more things which he may choose not to keep in the game later.

i think that's what a beta is for. alpha is like the beginning of a sculpture. your goal is to have the form of what you want, but the detail starts going in when you enter beta. so while the logic in what you're saying makes sense, it's just in the wrong phase for that right now

[acebane 268]

I like your post Rinner. BTW Scarlet, the reason why there was a string of hotfixes is because poor Rocket had to sleep. While he slept there popped up 100013913 posts and threads about the hotfix breaking their server. So Rocket wakes up to the hatred of many noobs, then has to work double time to make new hotfixes upon waking up.

He works like a slave around the clock, perhaps you could be a bit more considerate for his sake. As far as I know he's the only coder on Day Z's team. He is doing his damn hardest to fix everything and provide new content for this alpha so we may all enjoy our time here(He shouldn't be doing this, but he's going the extra mile). There's no need to give him crap for it.

When you make a mod in alpha and let the general public play it, then I think you'll understand, if you don't already.

[Scarlet_Blade 12]

> He works like a slave around the clock, perhaps you could be a bit more considerate for his sake. As far as I know he's the only coder on Day Z's team. He is doing his damn hardest to fix everything and provide new content for this alpha so we may all enjoy our time here. There's no need to give him crap for it.

By no means, am I ungrateful, the title was suppose to have been taken light heartedly, but I never actually knew how on edge the community actually was.

From my point of view, i'm not necessarily giving him crap, but trying to provoke a constructive (failed miserably lolol) response from the community of ways they would like to see the game possibly be developed without forcing it down Rockets throat.

[acebane 268]

As I said, Scarlet... I'm sure your intentions were positives ones, but this community has seen literally 100's of these kind of posts by authors who were less savvy and proper than yourself. Just bear this in mind for any future threads that you want to create for constructive criticism about the mod.