Less military stuffs

[Sakka 28]

I do agree with the idea that the military loot should have it spawn rate dropped significantly. I find more sniper rifles then I do LMGs.

About the helicopter...I am torn. Personally if a zombie apocalypse happened and I saw a helicopter I wouldn't even think about trying to fly it. Are you serious I know how that flight would end without any sort of knowledge or instruction. In a blaze of glory.

I don't think it should be impossible but at the same time do any of you drive a car on a regular basis IRL because a lot of people can't even take the time to learn how to do that properly let alone learn how to fly a Heli or plane.

[godtoldme2killu 2]

Ooooo Oooooooh, so the weapons and equipment that DayZ has right now is not satisfying you, is it? This is the list of weapons I will need to put these infected, undead, half-walking/running, vomiting, miturating, contagious zombies to death:

.357 Magnum

9x19mm MP5K-PDW (I wish they would add this)

.50 BMG Barrett XM500

I hope there is more military stuff in this game than the movie STRIPES. I prefer camoflauge to civilian clothing and I prefer an armed Huey to a Bell chopper. I am positive the vehicles would need as much camo as possible as I use them to set traps in the forests for unwanted tresspassers.

I would play this game much more if all the people (plus gamer Nazis) at the XtremeGaming Cafe on Babcock in San Antonio weren't so annoying, asking me questions about how the supermodels coming out next year are somehow connected to a "conspiracy theory" involving video games and suicide. Too much marijuana and violent video games, if you ask me. Another reason for some to hide in camoflauge. Especially the pretty ones.

Now lets scavenge what equipment we can and pray this game does not become a reality. Who likes dealing with the Center of Disease Control and Prevention anyways? Scientists can be, somewhat...................................................

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Controlling.

[Ken Bean 175]

Drop rates of all weapons (or bullets) should be reduced MASSIVELY. (cept maybe the makarov, lee enfield, revolver, M1911 and winchester) Guns like the AS50 should be so rare that maybe 1-10 will spawn on a server within a month. Or leave the drop rate as is - and just reduce the bullets avaliable on servers.

Making those items really rare just increases their value. So finding an AS50 then would be even more a death sentence.

Don't you find it on heli crash sites only anyway? They clearly are not that frequent. And then you'll have to consider that even if you found a heli crash site, you only have a low chance to find an AS50. Maybe this varies from server to server though, maybe you just got one which spawns those weapons a lot, but there shouldn't be much weapons like this in the game. If there are that many, then the reason probably is that every cheater wants to spawn with one. They are most likely not all 100% legit founds. ;)

I found only one within two months on a heli crash site by the way and I imediately lost it since I thought it would be save in a tent, which was just a plain stupid idea.

Edited April 19, 2013 by Ken Bean

[nnccmm 3]

Here's my two cents.

Chernarus is a post-soviet state, I think we all know that. A large landscape like this, we can expect a population anywhere from a few hundred thousand to millions, still don't know how the map will be.

But anyway, how it would probably play out is local law enforcement will try and step in to handle it. They'll fail. Then, the military will get involved. They too, will fail. After that, foreign organizations such as NATO will try and contain it. Obviously, everyone who tries to step in will fail.

Local Law Enforcement

Police Officers

Common Law Enforcement weaponry from Russian Police Officers can include...

GSh-18, Walther PPK, Makarov PM, Saiga 12S, OTs-2 Kiparis, BRF Revolver

Russian officers are actually pretty loaded out.. dayum!

Onto more serious law enforcers, like the OMON. These guys are badasses, the SWAT Officers of Russia. They have things like...

AK-74, AKS-74 Carbine, 9A-91, PP-19, PK Pecheneg, Dragonuv SVD, and my personal favorite.. the VSS Vintorez

So there you go, the law enforcement of Russia could supply more guns than what you've listed. But let's keep going.

Russian Armed Forces

The ruskys have a lot of guns.. they're actually one of the most advanced armies in the world. I'll just go over their Ground Forces.

Now of course, there's WAY too many guns to list, so I'll only go over a few.

Pistols

MP-443 Grach, Serdyukov SPS, PB, PSS, Stechkin APS, 6P13 APB

Submachine Guns

PP-19 Bizon, AEK-919K, PP-2000

Shotguns

Saiga-12K

Assault Rifles

Like 500 of them, pretty much every AK you can imagine, probably one with a fingernail painter for christ sake

AN-94s, AK-105, AS Vals, yeah. I'm not gonna list them all.

Sniper Rifles

SVD Dragonuv, SVU Dragonuv, KSVK, VSS Vintorez, SV-98, OSV-96 (a fucking beast)

Machine Guns

PKM, RPK, NSV, Kord

So uhh.. yeah. The Russian Army, the guys who will probably be involved in MANY numbers, have absolutely TONS of firepower. Keep in mind these guys enter the scenario after law enforcement have failed, so that means that a civilian probably won't be coming to pick up all the guns, they'll be part of the horde.

NATO/Allied Forces come after the Russian Army fail to contain the outbreak. This includes American, British, pretty much every country that has a major gun producer will be in this. That's where things like M4s, HKs, L85s come from. Of course, these forces will be numerous, and their gun types will vary. I obviously can't list the guns involved, since that would include too many to type in this forum post. These guys are at the peak of the infection, so there's not very many people to scoop them up. It's a little while after this that the game takes place.

So yeah, it's pretty simple. There should not be less military stuffs, there should actually be more. But less ammo.

TL;DR - More guns, less ammo.

[Sakka 28]

Hate to say it but unless the zombie outbreak started in Chernarus then there would be no way they would sending military personel there. If it was a world wide issue they would try to lock down major cities and other high value locations.

I don't think they would be sending the military to go help out small cities or even to degree certain countries. It would be mass pandemonium and everyone would be trying to help themselves. Why the hell would the any country be sending troops to a considerably small and lacking group of cities in Eastern Europe? There is doesn't seem to be anything in terms of an advantage of holding Chernarus.

Sorry I rambled bad...sometimes the booze makes me do what it wants. Basically I don't feel that too many military vehicles and weapons would be present in Chernarus unless they explain through a back story of some sorts that it is where or near where the outbreak started.

I mean honestly they don't even have an airport in Chernarus...just a few sets of runways with some hangers the military made? So how important is this place on a scale of an apocalypse?

[nnccmm 3]

We don't know the full story. (Presumably) the world is affected by the outbreak, so after the major cities were overrun, they could have tried to secure a more isolated area, hoping for a job they can accomplish. It's up to the devs how they'll play out (if they play out) a backstory.

Edited April 19, 2013 by nnccmm

[mattt* 17]

Two scenarii are possible :

1 - The outbreak start in Chernarus. After few hours, most of people there have been infected and there is no antidote available in the world : to solve the problem, they nuke the region. End of the story !

2 - The outbreak starts anywhere else (worldwide) : every states and institutions are in deep shit, most of people are dying or being infected. The authorities are trying to fight the infection and are using all their ammos to defend themselves in the first days of the outbreak. Now there are two sub-scenarii possible :

2.a ) Dayz takes place any days after, most of people are dead and the calm is back... with wandering zombies and several survivors ((like 25% of the population) who escaped the infection rush. Cities are full of zombies and guns (on the ground or on corpses) and some ammos are still left. Forest and plains are most of the time free of zombies 'cause cities are still full of dead corpses (with meat) so they didn't start to migrate.

2.b ) Dayz takes place any weeks/months/years later, 95% to 98% of people are dead, dead corpses have been eaten, no more food for zombies in the cities. They have already started to migrate to new places to find food (animal instinct). Every places are now full of zombies (20% in cities, 80% everywhere else). Every lootable places have been looted, cities have been visited by the first wave of survivors and most of weapons/ammos have been taken and used. Survivors can still find plenty of weapons in good/average/bad state (not more concentrated in cities but now in plain or forest too) but ammos are really really rare.

Depends the backstory of the SA but developpers don't have much choices...

Edited April 19, 2013 by mattt*