Rethink 3rd person view

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

That might be what you use it for, but you should keep it to yourself lest your buddies end up shunning you.

EDIT:

There's a point to be made here. If you prefer playing in FPV only, then do it.

Host or join "Merc" servers, support your own cause, stop blaming everyone else for your shortcomings.

I'm here to discuss the topic and perhaps stumble upon solutions. At the very least come to some reasonable conclusions.

If you want to cry, bitch and moan at someone, go see a psychiatrist. I don't get paid for this shit.

Edited February 25, 2013 by Chabowski

[Rekli 995]

stop arguing about if everyone exploits 3rd person or not STAY ON topic.....(A lowered 3rd person camera that cannot be moved to peek around corners)

[flypp 21]

A player in him first time in a FPV server:

Same player in a 3PV server:

If you have time, watch second video entirelly, and then tell me people don use 3DP to exploit the magic flying camera.

Please, post a 3DP DayZ firefight without peeking over corners/walls.

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

There's a point to be made here. If you prefer playing in FPV only, then do it.

Host or join "Merc" servers, support your own cause, stop blaming everyone else for your shortcomings.

@flypp - That's yet another irrelevant point you've made. Well done.

I'll give you a little analogy.

In football, if you touch the ball with your hand, it's a foul.

But in American football, well...

If you play on Merc servers, there's no problem. Stick to them and let this topic discuss the subject at hand.

Any discussion of 3dp is of absolutely no concern to anyone who doesn't play in 3dp enabled servers.

If you just want FPV buddies to 69 with, start a new topic.

[gibonez 3633]

Problem isnt solved by simply saying stick to fpv servers.

3rd person would still continue to be an exploit in 3rd person view servers.

Addressing the issue is the only way to solve it. I can understand 3rd person view makes exploring a little bit easier but there are ways of moving the camera slightly so you cannot exploit it to see around cover.

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

I can't post links in this browser, but the topic suggesting having 3dp tied to Alt+look has some decent exploration of ideas.

Rendering ONLY what would be visible to your character in FPV is a perfectly reasonable concept IMO. As I've mentioned, 3dp should be about awareness of your own character, nothing more.

The tighter camera, as someone pointed out, would cause your avatar to take up a fair portion of the screen, but that's a drawback that should be accepted if it's a part of what, in a greater sense, is a solution to an exploitable mechanic.

@gilbonez

In my previous post, I didn't say playing in FPV servers is a solution to 3dp exploits.

I said, if you play FPV only, what goes on in 3dp enabled servers has absolutely no bearing on your game whatsoever.

Many folks complain of their "need" to play on 3dp servers because FPV servers aren't populated.

Well, if you aren't playing in FPV servers, who's fault is it that they're empty? Yours.

[shadowleaper 22]

I have a feeling this will be fixed to a certain extent depending on where you are relative to the 'corner'. The closer you get to an object the more the camera zooms in. This will most likely be like those old tomb raider games. I do recall reading a rumour about this, can anyone confirm?