1st v 3dp - zones

[enforcer1975 1111]

They will find out one day that the only way to enjoy the game fully is to have a raw experience without any help at all. I'm still laughing when i play wasteland on an expert server and those with armored vehicles or let's say those with vehicles are quite helpless against a group of infantry because they tend to play the same way as if they had 3P on: head on, cqb and running through walls while trying to run one over while almost completely blind without using their biggest advantage, namely range.

[Hetstaine 10852]

Every new anti-3rd person post is just beating a dead horse. Here's the deal... tons of servers have chosen to turn off crosshairs, tons of servers have chosen to turn off name tags, tons of servers have chosen not to hand out guns in your starting gear, and tons of servers have chosen not to flood the map with vehicles and extra loot spawns. The point being that despite having plenty of options that could be used to make the game cheesier and easier, plenty of servers, and the players that play on those servers, have chosen to restrict certain options in order to lead to better gameplay. However, the number of servers that are first person only and manage to attract players are not even a blip on the radar. The only way anyone can argue for mandatory first person play at this point is if you think the playerbase, excluding you, is too stupid to know what's good for them in a game, despite the fact that they've clearly made hard-vs-easy value judgments when it comes to other optional features. It would be one thing if a large chunk of the servers were already selecting to be first person only. You could at least then make the case that it's an acceptable restriction that a large number of players would get behind, but the fact that virtually every server out there and virtually all the players are actively choosing to play on servers that allow third person makes it pretty clear that the vast majority of the playerbase doesn't have an issue with third person.

Heres the deal, why don't you read the whole thread before jumping in with the standard 'anti 3d' reply.

if you think the playerbase, excluding you, is too stupid to know what's good for them in a game

* bangs head on desk and talks to brick wall*

[Positronica 30]

Heres the deal, why don't you read the whole thread before jumping in with the standard 'anti 3d' reply.

* bangs head on desk and talks to brick wall*

I did read the whole thread. The OP wants to take some high traffic areas and force first-person only in those areas, like it's some kind of compromise, but it's a compromise that doesn't need to be made. I just checked DayZ Commander right now. Out of over 5000 servers, only THREE! are first person only, with less than 40 players total amoungst them. Being able to play the game in third person is not a problem that needs to be fixed. Nearly the entire playerbase routinely chooses to play where third player is an option. The absolutely miniscule portion of the playerbase that can't have fun unless everyone is in first person already has a solution to their "problem"... it's called playing on a first person only server. The only reason all these anti-third person proposals keep coming up is because a very vocal minority knows that they don't have the numbers to support barely any servers on their own, so they keep trying to force their preferred playstyle on everyone. The OP's proposal is just more of the same. It's based on the idea that third person is a net negative to the game, and that anyone who doesn't play only in first person is somehow cheating and not playing the game fairly. It doesn't matter that he only proposes to "punish" players who prefer third person in only a portion of the map. It's still elitist, and completely unnecessary.

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Well hold on just a second, have you actually tried playing in FPV?

If you had, you'd realise that 3dp DOES lessen the tension, by giving you more awareness.

Sad but true.

I think the point being made here is pretty clear.

The entire DayZ experience would be preferable if the community could be happy using the same options for all servers. I'm obviously not the only person who wants that.

I've defended the use of 3dp for a long time, and been in many a shouting match over the issue, but it makes ME look like an idiot when most of the people I'm trying to defend are doing exactly what the pro-FPV rally has said all along.

They're using 3dp to make the game easier for themselves. And that's BAD for gameplay.

I'll still stand by everyone's right to use 3dp, but you have to think why, when and in what situations you find 3dp to be the better option.

Giving yourself any advantage in combat, or against zeds, is a big no no.

Bear in mind DayZ SA has no crosshair and no HUD.

Immersion is key.

EDIT:

I had 1337 posts, then I made this one.

What a pisser. ^_^

Edited February 16, 2013 by Chabowski