Admin abuses should be addressed before SA

[TheDesigner 1197]

Being an admin myself, I know personally that 90% of people banned, temporarily or permanently, and with a justifiable reason, will whine and moan that I am an abusive admin. I think in my time as an admin, the only people I've banned wrongly would be people I suspected of scripting during a scripter attack and banned them with the message (Get on TS). If they get on and explain themselves, they are almost always unbanned.

[OrLoK 16188]

Being an admin myself, I know personally that 90% of people banned, temporarily or permanently, and with a justifiable reason, will whine and moan that I am an abusive admin. I think in my time as an admin, the only people I've banned wrongly would be people I suspected of scripting during a scripter attack and banned them with the message (Get on TS). If they get on and explain themselves, they are almost always unbanned.

There is much truth in this.

[Feral (DayZ) 622]

Agreed with OP, this issue doesn't recieve anywhere near enough attention.

Admin abuse is not just about unfair banning although that is a real problem, but also abuse of access to logs that enable admins to locate players, vehicles and camps. It is a form of legalized hacking that need to be made impossible with the SA

Edited February 4, 2013 by wabbit

[dgeesio 1034]

yes wabbit that needs to be locked down. people complain about the number one tihng that ruins dayz is hacking yet the admins basically have the same powers but are legit !

good admins are fine but the simple thing is they shouldnt have the power to have thes ingame features wheher they run server or not.

[OrLoK 16188]

Surely though, people will not stay on badly run/abusive servers? They may keep their *mates* but anyone else with any intelligence should just leave.

[theirongiant 200]

yes wabbit that needs to be locked down. people complain about the number one tihng that ruins dayz is hacking yet the admins basically have the same powers but are legit !

good admins are fine but the simple thing is they shouldnt have the power to have thes ingame features wheher they run server or not.

They shouldn't, but without those powers hackers would run (even more) rampant than they do. SA should sort both problems but in the meantime you'll have to put some leg work into finding a server with admins you trust, it's a two way street as admin have to put their trust in players as well.

[dgeesio 1034]

Surely though, people will not stay on badly run/abusive servers? They may keep their *mates* but anyone else with any intelligence should just leave.

honestly how do you know who is abusing it ?

some may abuse full blown some maybe just add odd round of ammo to there bag .at end of day just lock it down then the only way they getting that info is by hacking to get it. which is basically what they doing anyway but then theyll get banned or risk off ban .

[dgeesio 1034]

They shouldn't, but without those powers hackers would run (even more) rampant than they do. SA should sort both problems but in the meantime you'll have to put some leg work into finding a server with admins you trust, it's a two way street as admin have to put their trust in players as well.

if every admin can abusive the system what good is it. basically well see how standalone is in march when its released.

[Feral (DayZ) 622]

not all bad admins are stupid, some are smart.

Surely though, people will not stay on badly run/abusive servers? They may keep their *mates* but anyone else with any intelligence should just leave.

Yep, fair point Orlok.

But it isn't always that obvious, I used to play with a guy that had his own server, he kept getting all these kills, kept 'finding' all this stuff, guns, helis, camps etc.

I was a noob, i just assumed he was very good at Dayz, as he grew to trust me he began to brag about how he did it. I never played with him or on his server again.

since then I've met a few, once I was watching a squad on thier twitch channel as they hunted me on their clan server (they forgot twitch was running lol) I couldn't believe it when they began talking about what gear I had and where i was, all info they were getting from logs.

Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Too tempting for many to resist i guess, once they start it soon snowballs.

These 'tools' have no place in a video game, by 'tools' i mean the admin server apps and the admins using them.

[OrLoK 16188]

It is a difficult one indeed.

but I'd rather have the occasional Admin twat on a private hive than public only and full of scripters.

Not an ideal situation I know.

But, lets see what happens with the SA. I'm sure the devs have thought long and hard on these issues...and if not they'll soon be highlighted and hopefully resolved

L

[OrLoK 16188]

tried to give you beans wabbit, but I ran out. expect some soon.

subtle cheats, no matter the way are some of the most insidious.

L

[thehero 119]

I feel your pain OP I got banned for a server because I found the admins super camp at devils castle and destroyed most of the stuff the admin landed his heli and didn't notice me so I killed him and his buddy he then says he's going to roll back the server so they can get there stuff back and when I call them out on it I get banned! Haha ah well I have found a few servers now with amazing communities

[theirongiant 200]

if every admin can abusive the system what good is it. basically well see how standalone is in march when its released.

All the hacker free servers I've seen are private hives, that's the good it brings, at the moment that's the price that has to be paid.

[Icarus73 3]

There is a flipside to this, i run a private hive, most of the players that come on have gamed in various clans for the last 10years and have played cs at a high competative level. I have run a competative uk gaming site for a long time. So we all know about cheaters etc.

Now even these guys started asking me was I using a player map when i got a kill. Did i give myself that M107?

These guys should know better tbh but the thought still crossed there minds.

I still admin the server but as of this week im looking for another private hive to play on myself. I think its better for everyone if you have non player admins in a game like dayz.

[Feral (DayZ) 622]

...and have played cs at a high competative level

lost me right there, a DayZ server filled with Counter strike veterans is my own personal idea of hell

[Icarus73 3]

:)