Rebels United Clan

[DERjesus 10]

I am the other person, the one who found your camp in fact. We understand its a private server, and you can set any rules you want. The issue is that we were never told that there were rules about what is ok to take and what is not. We assumed that we were playing DayZ - and as such played accordingly and scavenged for ourselves. You want to help your players, fine. We did not want your help - we wanted to play DayZ.

As for what we took A black SUV and a Huey. I'm pretty sure that's what any group of two would have taken from your camp. And yes we only took what we needed to survive - which was high end guns and ammunition. Think about it, there are three from our group that play on your entire clans server. We assumed this very well stocked camp was part of your clan - we also realized we were taking very obvious vehicles, so we would likely be hunted. What we took was what just about any group would have taken.

Also: I wanted to blow out the tires on your other vehicles to slow down pursuit, but Mongo talked me out of it - we don't want to be A-holes, just survivor jerks (as expected in DayZ).

I urge Mongo to not delete his post, people need to understand your server has its own rules - You are allowed to do so, but at least warn new players by having them read a TOS.

Also Find a better place for your camp. It was in the very first place I looked, and so freaking obvious.

[DERjesus 10]

And you still went on here without trying to resolve it first. Childish.

What is this other then seeking resolution.

[DERjesus 10]

As for you Mongo, if you come into a server like this, purposely play against how everyone else plays and expect nothing to happen you are not as smart and I took you for. I don't want to hear, you didn't know. You responded to the talks that centered around you and how you play. You knew exactly how the server typically flowed and you still went out of your way to make it difficult for others.

To say we understood the dynamics of this server is just wrong. I have played on several other servers that did have rules about camp raiding these rules were stated at log in with a MOTD directing users to a URL where the rules were plainly explained. I still play on that server, happily - beacuse I understand that the game that is played there.

Here is my response on the site.

"Let me start by saying this, this is not my server so I do not make the rules I just try to keep all groups at piece. As I hate dying in this game lol.

With that said, your tactics of the game versus the general populations style of play is what gets you in trouble. When "most" of the factions on the server come across peoples stuff we leave it alone. We realize there is always places to find stuff. And if your being impatient and not really following along with "acceptable tactics" by actually going city to city and finding what you need then don't play and for sure don't come and complain when you get put in your place about it....

There are over 100 vehicles on that server. There isn't probably half that are found. Stop trying to take everyone else hard earned items because your to lazy to play the game with "appropriate tactics". If it was my server and we had the style that we do now and you did what you did I would have banned you. Just remember this isn't the first time you have gone out of your way to be a non participant with the format the server generally follows. And when you do that do you really expect not to be reprimanded???

For me I would just say don't let the door hit you on the way out, this is their server, their rules, be a man and accept it. But no, you had to take it all the way over to another forum and complain like a little child, ironic enough considering you are throwing the same accusations at them...

I'm going to help clean up the mess you left when you crapped your way out of this place...

Good riddance!"

A few things:

• This is DayZ
  
• We searched for vehicles a lot, finding only a bicycle.
  
• Camp robbing has always been a part of DayZ, our own camps on other servers have been hit many many times.
  
• And we will find other places to play, there are millions of them - We just want your server rules to be lain out for new players so that other people don't get burned.
  

[sm0ker (DayZ) 4]

for about the 5th time i think. you guys have been on when we have stated suv was admins car. and you didnt need any of what you took. you guys were pretty well stocked before. less a car. we had moved our stff to the top of the hill as we were working on putting in a secure base in the valley. not wanting help is your choice. never said you had to take it. but as i said before this could of been handled on our website. no need to take it public. and bash our server.

[sm0ker (DayZ) 4]

you didnt get burned! i said i would give you the things you had before this whole thing. just not what you took from us. and yes i will make sure to update the MOTD. there are MANY vehicles on this sever still at their spawn points.

[DERjesus 10]

you didnt get burned! i said i would give you the things you had before this whole thing. just not what you took from us. and yes i will make sure to update the MOTD. there are MANY vehicles on this sever still at their spawn points.

Its nothing personal, we are in no way trying to flame or discredit your clan or your server, just making sure everything was stated up front. For the record I was never alerted to anything belonging to the admin and being off limits. We have had the same tactic used on us at our camp, we just resolved it in a diffrent way (with [in-game] Violence).

[sm0ker (DayZ) 4]

well then maybe you guys can delete this thread since it is discrediting our clan and our server.

[GTD IwazInYoMom69 2]

I refuse to spend the next 2hrs of my life going back and forth about the ethics or proper Day Z gaming. Good luck, good night.

[Mongo Strongrod 0]

The thread remains intact, the Admins didn't see fit to take it down nor do I.

sm0ker you just don't understand and all this back and forth is just beating a dead horse. I'm not going to argue the point anymore. This thread is for the DayZ community.

You claim we knew your special rules, we claim we did not know them. No amount of back and forth will ever change your mind and let you see that you were wrong to assume non clan players on your non password protected server know all of your rules.

The issue is resolved, We won't be on your server ever again. You took the low road and modified our character inventory and transported us to a remote island, so I took my own road and went straight to the forums. Is everyone happy? No not one bit, you think we are unfairly calling out your server and we lost a place we enjoyed playing where we spent a good amount of time.

[taplion 3]

First, let me state that I am a fairly new DayZ player as I've only started playing around 2 weeks.

The RU Clan's server has been an extremely helpful and great experience for a new player like me. I have read and asked around about the rules since it is a private hive, and eventually understood them. This is a much more interactive and friendly server than most, and the community is great.

I have to admit, I did not hear anything about the SUV, nor that it is off limits. But the admins are more aware of this now and are willing to fix it to put it into MOTD.

Now, I have been playing on this server long enough to know that all of RU's guys are reasonable people, and I'm sure that they wanted to seclude the guys from THAC0 until they can properly reason this problem out. The thread was posted on the RU forums about this, but before it even came close to a resolution, THAC0 decided to bring the topic here.

To me it seems like in this case the guys from THAC0 are the ones butt-hurt and clearly just want to defame the server before packing up their stuff and leaving.

[Inception. 9443]

didnt say i spawn items for others did i. i said we use our supplies to help other players. when the server was set up the vehicles in which he is referring to were spawned in extra for us to use in the help of players.

You spawn in items for YOU, which you use to help OTHER players, so you are indirectly giving them items in a way.

All I'm saying is, is that it doesn't matter if it's your private server and you can make up your own rules, the fact that stealing from an admin base is against the rules is what I find stupid.

EDIT: Thinking that raiding camps and taking equipment in a legitimate way is "unfair play" is even as stupid. It's all part of the game. Hide your camps better, then.

You want the thread deleted because it's discrediting your clan and server? Bah. Spawning in items in general is not liked by the majority of the DayZ Community.

You tell them to go and find other vehicles instead of stealing from hard earned camps, and yet you don't find items yourself to help other players with; you spawn them in. Go figure...

Edited January 31, 2013 by Inception.

[sm0ker (DayZ) 4]

i said they were spwaned in extra when the server was created. vehicles that we use.never anything about items to give away. we find things on the server like everyone else. items are not spawned in. therefore steeling from us inhibits us helping others.its whatever. play on our server or dont. our base is now secured with guid access doors problem solved.

Edited January 31, 2013 by sm0ker