How does humanity and combat EXACTLY work?

[Gh0st233 13]

I know this has probably been asked before, and that I should have used a searach function, but this question I have is rather specific.

I had 3000 humanity a moment ago, I killed a bandit, after that I killed a survivor that killed my friend, after that, someone in a ghillie suit (survivor) attacked me and I killed him. Now I have -1500 humanity.

How exactly does it work, and is it combined with the combat mode at all?

For example: If the ghillie guy* shoots an ak in my proximity and it lands right next to me, am I put in combat mode? If it does, will killing him make me lose humanity equal to his amount of positive humanity, or will I lose none? If it doesn't, I will definitely lose, correct?

Thanks in advance.

Edited January 17, 2013 by Gh0st233

[protectadin 21]

no, he has to shoot you first (bullet has to hit you) then if you kill/shoot him it doesn't lower your humanity

[Gh0st233 13]

no, he has to shoot you first (bullet has to hit you) then if you kill/shoot him it doesn't lower your humanity

Thank you for the reply.

[PK Richie 507]

This should help http://www.dayzwiki.com/wiki/Humanity

[Dancing.Russian.Man 1631]

Actually;

- If you kill a bandit, you gain X humanity.

- If you kill a survivor/hero, you lose X humanity.

- If someone fires a weapon while close to you, or hits you from afar, you are not punished for killing them.

X is determined by how many hits you land, and how much damage you deal.

So if you spray away at a survivor's legs with a pistol, you will lose quite the amount of humanity. Same with shooting them in the face with an AS50. (50 caliber sniper rifle.)

Edit;

This should help http://www.dayzwiki.com/wiki/Humanity

Note that the wiki might be outdated due to the fact that the latest version of DayZ has no debug monitor, and we don't know if the values/rates have been tweaked or not.

Edited January 17, 2013 by Dancing.Russian.Man

[Gh0st233 13]

This should help http://www.dayzwiki.com/wiki/Humanity

Thank you for the link, but it doesn't really say anything about combat mode.

[PK Richie 507]

If someone shoots at you and misses then you kill them you lose humanity, If someone shoots at you and hits you then you kill them it's ok :)

Not an ideal system but it works ok

Note that the wiki might be outdated due to the fact that the latest version of DayZ has no debug monitor, and we don't know if the values/rates have been tweaked or not.

Yeah i know but it's the only link i had to explain it :) values might be different but the system is still the same

[Imafighter 236]

- If you kill a bandit, you gain X humanity.

Killing bandits does not give you humanity.

[Gh0st233 13]

Actually;

- If you kill a bandit, you gain X humanity.

- If you kill a survivor/hero, you lose X humanity.

- If someone fires a weapon while close to you, or hits you from afar, you are not punished for killing them.

X is determined by how many hits you land, and how much damage you deal.

So if you spray away at a survivor's legs with a pistol, you will lose quite the amount of humanity. Same with shooting them in the face with an AS50. (50 caliber sniper rifle.)

Edit;

Note that the wiki might be outdated due to the fact that the latest version of DayZ has no debug monitor, and we don't know if the values/rates have been tweaked or not.

As far as I know, killing bandits gives 0 humanity.

Killing bandits does not give you humanity.

This.

[Paddy0610 278]

As far as I know, killing bandits gives 0 humanity.

This.

i thought it a while ago too

Heal other people, killing Bandits got no inpact on Humanity at the moment.

That's not entirely accurate. You can't know for sure how "bad" a bandit someone is, but if someone kills a very bad bandit, they will actually gain humanity.

rocket reply to my wrong thoughts in the topic http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/92913-fastest-way-lose-humanity/

[Gh0st233 13]

i thought it a while ago too

rocket reply to my wrong thoughts in the topic http://dayzmod.com/f...-lose-humanity/

And how bad does a bandit have to be? 40k negative?

[Paddy0610 278]

And how bad does a bandit have to be? 40k negative?

Thats something i dont exactly know its a thing the needs to be tested. I never read something that said a spezific Number.

[Spentmind 23]

I have negative 600,000 does that make me bad enough to warrant humanity upon killing me? Though I wish I could be a hero, that's not gonna happen. >.>

Edited January 18, 2013 by Spentmind

[Gh0st233 13]

Speaking of heroes, do you lose the hero skin once you have it? Do you lose it just as you get below 5000 humanity or what?

[Spentmind 23]

Speaking of heroes, do you lose the hero skin once you have it? Do you lose it just as you get below 5000 humanity or what?

Hmm, I'm not sure. Wiki says this: "It is unclear at which point heroes will revert to being a survivor or if this happens at all." And since I've never been a hero (I was a long gone bandit before the hero skin came in) I can't say whether it does or not and if it does at what point it happens.

Edited January 18, 2013 by Spentmind

[Ansssi 184]

Speaking of heroes, do you lose the hero skin once you have it? Do you lose it just as you get below 5000 humanity or what?

Below 5000 aaaand it's gone.

[Gh0st233 13]

Below 5000 aaaand it's gone.

One more question. I was killed by an M107 shot and I was a hero. I had 5150 humanity, once I respawned, I had 4900. Why did I lose some humanity? I shot and killed nobody.

[Ansssi 184]

I've encountered that, too, and it seems like it's a bug.

Once I was in a situation where my humanity was 4731,43. I could bloodbag someone and turn into a hero but everytime I disconnected or died and joined another server, my humanity reset back to 4731,43.

I only play on certain public hives so it's propably not hive-related.

PS. any hints on how to make my sig image visible?

Edited January 24, 2013 by Ansssi

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

Regarding your sig, upload the image to tinypic or Photobucket then in the sig editor paste the HTML link.

[Gh0st233 13]

Reactivating the thread, new question!

Today, we were attacked by 2 guys. My friend killed one and ended up being killed by the other (other was a survivor), I killed the other survivor guy, and lost my hero skin. A few moments later, the one who my friend killed returned to take a weapon and kill me, I told him in VON to go away or I will have to kill him. Out of sudden, a bandit with an ak starts shooting me and the newcomer sees this as an opportunity to get a weapon and take revenge. He starts shooting with an m1014 that I left on one of the bodies, and I start running around him. I don't recall him hitting me, but I killed him and didn't loose much humanity from those 2 kills. The first one I killed happened to shoot me with an M24 some 3-4 minutes ago, so I don't know if that helped. I lost about 500-700 humanity from all of that.

My initial thought was, if I kill a survivor, I lose as much humanity as he has. If I kill a survivor with 2.5k humanity, I lose 2.5k humanity. Is this how it works or is there something else to it? Could the survivors just have had low humanity?

Also, what would happen if I kill an aggresive hero?