Capt. ACaP 0 Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) I've been watching hacker tutorials on youtube and what struck me is the realtime map display they have thanks to their ESP map tool. Going by what our server administrator has said and also looking at admin videos on youtube, their map only updates every 30 seconds and I'm not even sure it gives as much info as the hacker's map? So my question is, if the hacker tools are so much more powerfull than battle eye, has anyone considered using them against them or incorporating the best bits of the hacker tools into battle eye to improve it...?The cheat reporting forum asks for screencaps or video to prove cheating/hacking but even then it's hard to catch someone in the act and usually takes extreme luck. I find that even when there's obvious hacking going on, there's no way to prove who the hacker is and if they get banned, if they cry hard enough about it some admin give in and let them back on. Using their ESP map tool, it'd be a simple thing to watch them for several minutes to see their movement realtime and catch them straight away rather than waiting for a 30sec refresh which is useless if they're TPing around a small area.If someone created a map tool stripping out their ESP map from the overlay so as to remove all the other cheat scripts, surely this would be the most powerfull way to catch hackers in the act? It would allow the easy creation of irrefutable video proof of hacking for admins and would give the rest of peace of mind. Might this actually work or is it pie in the sky...? Edited January 16, 2013 by Capt. ACaP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mayuyu 411 Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) As an admin (well, moderator with the admin tools for servers), I use multiple tools to catch hackers as they're doing it. Spectator tools let me watch in real-time as they're playing; from their perspective. This way I can easily see when they TP or use ESP. This would be the most powerful in my opinion.Without it I wouldn't catch as many sciddies as I do.I'd stick to the actual admin tools and not third party ones which, in the end, will bite you in the butt.Good discussion to bring up none-the-less. Edited January 16, 2013 by Mayuyu 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kitfoo@yahoo.com 13 Posted January 16, 2013 As an admin (well, moderator with the admin tools for servers), I use multiple tools to catch hackers as they're doing it. Spectator tools let me watch in real-time as they're playing; from their perspective. This way I can easily see when they TP or use ESP. This would be the most powerful in my opinion.Without it I wouldn't catch as many sciddies as I do.I'd stick to the actual admin tools and not third party ones which, in the end, will bite you in the butt.Good discussion to bring up none-the-less.Where did you get the spectator tool, and would it work on a Vilayer server? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbrtimmer@gmail.com 1 Posted January 17, 2013 You could always try "The Silent Warrior anti hack" great tool for spotting any hackers. It displays not the players location on the map, detects any teleport,detects banned weapons and also spawned weapons by determining a minimum time required to acquire a specific item. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. ACaP 0 Posted January 17, 2013 Where did you get the spectator tool, and would it work on a Vilayer server?I second this! It'd be great if the effectiv tools were more widespread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NonovUrbizniz (DayZ) 137 Posted January 17, 2013 There are lots of threads on this, frankly I think the chance of them doing anything is slim to none... BE is already cut out of the SA because they aren't easy to deal with from what I've gathered...I know that I've posted a bunch of times about this and always get lots of support from other admins and no action or replies from anyone in power to change it...The long and short of it is, if you hack on a public server even as the admin, they just don't care, you're a hacker and have to buy a new key if you get caught... On a private hive it's basically the same thing unless you disable BE... You can only use the tools the server provider provides any 3rd party apps that get detected as hacks by BE if it's running will get you global banned... and no matter what you say to them they will not over turn it PERIOD... trust me.It's frankly a crap situation because legit players have to depend on server admins risking their own characters/keys to be even remotely safe from hackers... and admins of servers are simply on their own PERIOD... there is NO MORE support for the public hive, they don't even take new registrations for service tickets much less new tickets for existing server managers... I have 2 of every legit vehicle spawning on my server no matter what I do even after restarts, stops/starts, destroying ALL the double vehicles manually... they keep double spawning. My only option is to reinstall the server or HOPE that it reconnects to the public hive at some point and it gets noticed and fixed... I've been a big proponent of staying on the mod and not really being to concerned with when the SA is released... but at this point there is almost NO WAY it could be worse for admins... so I might jump ship earlier than I otherwise would want to...The only way to live with it at this point is to just realize you are powerless and either risk a licence trying to actively police the server with 3rd party solutions, OR to just let it be the wild west...Shit the players on my server NEVER report hackers or complain, half the time I review the chat logs it's people handing out vehicles and guns like it was xmas... I guess people like it... shit on some level I find it entertaining.... although almost starving to death being a legit admin having to run down to Elektro from the north to check out WTF hackers did on your server isn't cool... "Helicopter Swarm" and the ever popular "Nuke" are the scripts the two hackers where talking about in my logs when I had to run down and check it out.... (it's 3 parts thanks to YouTube but only have 1 & 2 up so far (2 has all the action but 1 is a worthwhile lead in)) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mayuyu 411 Posted January 17, 2013 Where did you get the spectator tool, and would it work on a Vilayer server?You'll have to ask Zabn either here or on the BalotaBuddies website, he's the one who gave it to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
