What the hell is going on with hackers?

[declan223@gmail.com 271]

the game, as it was made, is not a pve game.

In your opinion.

DayZ in neither Strict PvP or PvE but a collaboration of both. That's what sets it apart and makes it unique.

PS I think that the whole bandit/PvP system needs to be revised as theres no real difference between being a bandit or a survivor.

As for the hacking I can't comment but there was this one server that I used to play on were we think the admin was a hacker, as when ever you moved a Ural spawned on your head. (on that server we lost a Makarov SD that we found). I think when you purchase Standalone you should have to do a voice test before you can buy. Less COD Kids who think that the point of every game is to shoot shit.

[ow1 30]

Two words will solve your problem as it did mine.

White list.

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

Agreed. Just finding a private server is not enough,any douche can be an admin, you need one with good admins. Yes it's a shame but it also shows how resourceful the community is and how determined they/we are to have people enjoy DAyZ the way it's meant to be played. These servers are set up at great cost somoetimes and we spend a lot of time admining to keep things nice for the players.

[tsandrey 379]

Private hives are just as infested as any other hive/server. I've actually seen more cheaters in private hives than in public ones. It all comes down to the admin. A good admin can keep a public server under control just like a private server!

Btw. I can't remember the last time I've encountered a hacker, and I play on high pop public hives all the time

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

Agreed (apart from the public/private bit but that's just my experience). I honestly haven't seen a hacker for over 2 months of regular play. I choose my servers carefully, once you find a good one, stick with it and support the admins. The admins actually have quite a lot of tools now for dealing with hackers, many just don't know how or do not have the time.

OP - A good way of finding a well run server is to find one on these forum's that looks like it has an active and establish community. I've recently become a server admin but there are many out there that are very well established and have a proven track record.

Edited December 8, 2012 by Fraggle

[Dankine 377]

In your opinion.

and in the opinion of the person who made it...

playing dayz just pve is simply moronic.

Edited December 8, 2012 by Dankine

[tsandrey 379]

Wait Until The Day-Z Team Lose Battleye and get stuck in with VAC (Valve Anti-Cheat) Valves Anti Cheat is Much More Advanced and Its a AI technology scanning not just your game But software Running in the Background tasks and alien Codes and Scripts...

another Good thing about VAC.... is that 1 ban with result ina Ban From all VAC secured Games Inc, Counter-strike, team fortress, day of defeat, half-life etc.

No, they are not. VAC bans are only for the game VAC banned you in. And VAC sucks

[woots 82]

Wait Until The Day-Z Team Lose Battleye and get stuck in with VAC (Valve Anti-Cheat) Valves Anti Cheat is Much More Advanced and Its a AI technology scanning not just your game But software Running in the Background tasks and alien Codes and Scripts...

another Good thing about VAC.... is that 1 ban with result ina Ban From all VAC secured Games Inc, Counter-strike, team fortress, day of defeat, half-life etc.

This is one of the worst posts I have seen in awhile. Either you are misinformed or just spewing BS

VAC only bans you for the game (or game engine) that you used cheats on.

VAC is probably one of the easiest anticheats to bypass so it pretty much makes it just as useless as Battleye

This game Needs a good anticheat. VAC sucks

[Dankine 377]

there is no such thing.

[sarkasm0 109]

there is no such thing.

Correct, there isn't such thing as a good anticheat, but there are indeed ones that work better than others, and I think VAC is way better than Battleye or Punkbuster.

[tsandrey 379]

Correct, there isn't such thing as a good anticheat, but there are indeed ones that work better than others, and I think VAC is way better than Battleye or Punkbuster.

LOL No

BE and PB are far better than VAC. VAC takes a huge time to bust a cheat, and almost never busts private ones. It only (barely) works in Valve games! VAC is only good in games were cheating is not a problem and doesn't need special attention. That's why most Steamworks game use it!

The only good thing about VAC is the updating system (the question is does VAC ever update :P) and small number of false-positives.

Edited December 8, 2012 by TSAndrey

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

This is one of the worst posts I have seen in awhile. Either you are misinformed or just spewing BS

VAC only bans you for the game (or game engine) that you used cheats on.

VAC is probably one of the easiest anticheats to bypass so it pretty much makes it just as useless as Battleye

This game Needs a good anticheat. VAC sucks

Vac is only one of the measures that will protect the SA, check the dev blog for a better description than I could give.

[tsandrey 379]

Vac is only one of the measures that will protect the SA, check the dev blog for a better description than I could give.

I only see VAC.

Btw. BE is not useless at all. It just looks it is, cause Arma is "easy" to hack

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

So read the dev blog.

[nik21 287]

Vac is only one of the measures that will protect the SA, check the dev blog for a better description than I could give.

The anti-cheat software, in this case VAC, is actually the only measure that can actively stop published cheats. The change of the engine architecture itself is more kind of a passive anti-cheat measure, because it makes scripting/ serveral types of cheats impossible, but it does not actively detect published cheats.

And even if the engine is being locked down to a proper level, serveral types of cheats will still be existant because in a rather fast-paced game like DayZ some things simply can't be server sided.

And when it comes to detect those very types of cheats being published, VAC just sucks. Look at MW2/ 3, Homefront, all Counter-Strike Titles. I've seen public cheats for those games going undetected for 6+ MONTHS(!).

Compare it to BattlEye? Most public cheats get busted within 24 hours, Private Cheats get detected almost every week. VAC will maybe manage to detect Private Cheats every few months, but I can tell you, cheaters won't give a shit.

Quote from a private hack user:

Ok first the bad news:

Yes, Bastian Suter is winning because he has something that anti-cheat scene has been missing for a long time: Enthusiasm. It could also be argued that H****S is spreading himself too thin with support for so many games.

Basically what BE is doing different is doing WHATEVER IT TAKES to detect paid cheats. This includes subscribing to all the paid cheat sites, downloading the loaders and then undoing any efforts that the cheat coders make to keep their cheat undetected. They also use clever tactics like staggered banwaves etc. to demoralize players who buy cheats and simply stop cheating because they cant bother or afford to get new cd keys all the time. This ofcourse leads to a drastically reduced population of cheaters which is their aim all along. Good for them. Ironically it seems that we, the cheaters, are the ONLY ones truly capable of recognizing the great work BE is doing, which is loosely connected to the brighter side of this post.

And now some good news:

The matter of the fact is that all the victories BE has scored on paid cheat sites mean very little in the future, when DayZ standalone comes out. Standalone is the FUTURE of DayZ. And with this new era, DayZ will be integrated into Steam.

Source: http://dayzdev.tumblr.com/post/36771...-november-2012 -> What this means is that we get our anti-cheat in the form of VAC. I sincerely doubt that VAC will be able to release weekly banwaves on virtually all the sites that sell cheats for the standalone release. Valve is a big and clumsy corporation that lacks the same "enthusiasm" factor that a small player like BE still has.

Ofcourse even VAC will be picking up our cheats from time to time simply because paying for cheats is no longer exceptionally exclusive; it's the NORM. And surely enough Valve and Evenbalance have reacted to this.

Still, I would pick up VAC over PB or BE any day of the week, and I'm sure I'm not alone with my opinion.

[tsandrey 379]

None appreaciates BE's work cause they only see hackers masskilling people which BE can't stop, cause Arma is just so open.They don't know how many cheats get busted behind the scenes, so only cheaters know BE's work.

All hacks in Arma went private for a simple reason: BE busts them all the time, but Arma is just so easy to hack. Private sites know that so many people want to cheat in DayZ and they start making bypasses. It created a strange hacking scene

Rocket just screwed up bigtime. Cheaters will create ESP hacks for sure, and VAC will just not be able to stop them. I seriously don't know why he did that

Edited December 8, 2012 by TSAndrey