My Issues with the 1.7.1 Changes

[dogmachines 0]

Some people seem to think they are playing WOW and that everything should be easy and user friendly. Just have patiance' date=' learn the new zombie behaviours and adapt.

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The zombie behavor changes aren't the issue, I'd actually argue that they are good. I love that you can hide now, and zombie detection being more LOS based is nice as well. Spawning defenseless is the primary issue. Not only can you do nothing to zombies, but you are easy pickings for anyone with a weapon.

[Verdett 0]

I only just started playing this mod, so about 2 days under 1.7.0, and now im even hesitant to even start playing on the servers that now support 1.7.1

These are the problems that I see arise from this update and well, might have been the point of it in the first place;

All of the changes to the zeds making them tougher and the ability to spot you makes it sound as if looting a town is going to be damn near impossible, I had enough problems trying to loot a town by myself without alerting one zed in the process while being as damn careful and sneaky as I can, a recent incident ending with 30 bodies in a pile in a shed, me out of ammo, and running away with still a town of zeds chasing me before I finally got away.

Now, you may say, oh well that forces teamwork and to work together to survive, yes, but if you can't even find people because of the removal of the side chat, that makes it near impossible on a map this huge if you don't know the people irl and have a way of knowing where they are. Which is probably the point. Another thing I thought of is that without having any weapons to start with, it really doesn't matter how many people you have with you, you are still going to be screwed in the end.

Which, all and all, ends up sounding like the point in the end anyways, and are interesting ideas, I just believe it adds more frustration than a feeling of success from being able to survive, who knows, maybe I'll learn to not somehow die 20 times in 5 minutes when I start playing on this new update, I do hope so, I was really excited about playing this game for myself.

[epeenoire 82]

I somewhat agree with OP.

My personal problem is, zombies are spawning way too fast after you've killed some of them and additionally, they got something like a spider sense - they will see you, no matter how sneaky you try to be.

[envy9o9 3]

I agree about the weapons, however I haven't played the new build yet so I can't say anything about the zeds. I noticed while playing 1.7.0 they wouldn't aggro if I was behind them anyways so the idea of LOS being new, is kind of weird to me.

But, the idea of starting without a weapon seems ridiculous. Not because of zombies, but because of bandits that will now be flocking to the coast. Even with an M16A2 M203 I was weary of survivors with just Makarovs because even if they don't kill me they might get a few good shots in that will cripple my blood, which cripples my sight, which cripples my ability to survive further. Now Bandits will have the confidence they need to kill people who have just spawned.

[Jolmer 0]

Im sure it will get toned down if its too crazy, even for the more hardcore of you. You poor souls are the testers. The patch just came out. Dont play if youre scared of it.

[Kroktar 0]

im agree too, i love most of the changes but i wish you could find a lot more makarovs with half of magazine and stuff...i dont wanna return having tons of mags.

I just feel like some little towns dont have any weapons because they werent intended to spawn makarovs at the first.

[n00baphile 0]

Look I wasn't trying to piss on anyones campfire here I was just trying to raise the point that it makes it extremely hard for new players trying to get into the game diminishing our (as in me and my friends that I play with) fun levels and personally I would have though that the harder difficulties would scale like the sight range would increase with the diffrent modes since there is not much diffrence between them all now ... fair enough we are not all born with godlike reflexes and master tacticians but we don't exactly run in through the middle of town guns blazing trying to kill all players we come across I've actually never shot at a player so the guy complaining about people spawning in and killing each other then maybe there should be a player PvP spawn protection system enabled instead of just removing all weapons at the "n00b level" difficulty, and fair enough if this what was intended for the direction of the mod then so be it I loved it for what it was and I guess you guys love it for what it is now.

Maybe just consider allowing us n00bs/casuals to have fun also with "dumbed down" modes and scale up the difficulties with higher sight radius, more damage and w/e other more "hardcore" settings.

P.S.

"...a title of "it sucks" isn't helpful for categorization and doesn't make me want to open the thread and give what you say weight.

Point noted and title changed accordingly

[draulxx 0]

It's one thing to have extremely agro zombies but to add no weapon to start with is just to much. I mean at least let me push, kick, or punch to stay alive. Any person would. The fact that there are so little weapon pick ups on top of not starting with a gun and having the 50 yard zombie agro is a bit much. Plus using empty cans and stuff doesnt draw the attention if you throw them anymore if ever.

I like the game and the idea of the game. I bought arma 2 co 2 days ago to be able to support this game. I feel like the difficulties should scale more with these kind of things and now have no gun and long range agro zombies on recruit.

[Verdett 0]

Im sure it will get toned down if its too crazy' date=' even for the more hardcore of you. You poor souls are the testers. The patch just came out. Dont play if youre scared of it.

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Hah no, not scared, just not sure if I want to lose all of my stuff and start over in a matter of minutes since my guy is currently in the middle of nowhere with little luck of finding someone to group up with and everyone that I know irl sleeping at the moment haha, that's all I meant.

[Jolmer 0]

You either play the game the way Rocket wants you to play it or you dont play. I hated not being able to tell bandits from us good guys but I still played. Itll be fine junior just keep a chin up and find a gun. Quick.

[ThatGuyCalledReptile 314]

The only problem I've had is that the zombies spawning at the Deer stand at Stary can see me sitting on the hill inside a bush from across the feild. Maybe add a Cap to their LOS cause it's kinda far atm. other than that I will actually feel scared using my m107 to shoot scalpers at the NW airfeild.

[Mercury (DayZ) 3]

I really loved the game but now it's really damn hard to survive...

This "game?" Is that what DayZ is? I thought it was a zombie survival simulator, and it sounds like you were trying to "win" at it. Now you're "losing" and instead of adapting, you're whining.

[l mandrake 61]

Its supposed to be hard.

So the thing that caused the end of the fucking world (Zombies) are actually quite dangerous. Well fuck me thats a new one.

Quality :cool:

[ATOJAR 23]

Looking forward to starting a fresh char, I dont acxtually have that much loot atm so i may just go how and kill myself to start fresh lol.

[DarkOverlord 0]

You either play the game the way Rocket wants you to play it or you dont play. I hated not being able to tell bandits from us good guys but I still played. Itll be fine junior just keep a chin up and find a gun. Quick.

My problem is, where are usually weapons, there are NONE.

Hell, a couple of playthroughs, I found myself without ammo since I just couldn't pick up any Makarov ammo. :/

[Verdett 0]

If this game is too hard for you theres 2 options:

1st: Learn how to become a better player and adapt to the difficulty.

2nd: Go back to COD kid.

1. Well that's what I am going to try to do, hopefully I can do this successfully after a few dozen deaths XD

2. I don't even like/play COD >_<

[DarkOverlord 0]

I really loved the game but now it's really damn hard to survive...

This "game?" Is that what DayZ is? I thought it was a zombie survival simulator' date=' and it sounds like you were trying to "win" at it. Now you're "losing" and instead of adapting, you're whining.

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It's still a game. A progressively realistic simulator but its still a game.

[TouRzx 3]

i got this game yesterday, i thought i was learning very quickly actually, but now no flares or guns at spawn. al i can say is that its too difficult now, i will most likely get used to it. oh and the only time i really get into a server is when its night so yeah this is gonna be hard

[xls.akm@gmail.com 0]

1. Well that's what I am going to try to do' date=' hopefully I can do this successfully after a few dozen deaths XD

2. I don't even like/play COD >_<

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Well the 2nd one was more of a metaphor :p

[draulxx 0]

I hate COD and dont even really care for battlefield myself. And I do suck at this game but this patch made it even harder lol.

What I am suggesting is to have the zombie sight range, hearing range, zombie damage, zombie health, starting items, and item spawns based on the game difficulty. It will allow for the newer people to get better at the game and then advance into higher difficulties.

Zombies are still glitching through walls and one crawled under a concrete floor and mauled me to death. The doors were all closed in the warehouse I was in but it crawled through the floor and came up from underneath me and killed me.

[Aysamo 0]

Changes suck. People keep saying "GET BETTER KID LOL" but I'm getting spotted through walls. Reggie Bush zombies then simply walk straight through those walls and kill me. They can spot me from miles away which would be fine with me but I STILL can't juke out zombies who chase you down. No matter what I do I cannot break their LOS. Having no gun just makes this totally pointless and not fun. Zombie aggro needs to be toned down a bit, or make them really easy to shake off, because they definitely haven't gotten any easier to juke.

[Jolmer 0]

I think everyone would appreciate it if you take your talk of Call of Duty and Battlefield to some other forum. Speaking of it here is like unleashing a rather unpleasant fart at a pristine 5 star restaurant table surrounded by your friends and loved ones.

Analogies aside cut the crap. Call of Duty has nothing to do with this game. There are problems with this patch that are being noted in the troubleshooting forum such as zombies phasing through walls and hitting you through them still, zombies spawning within 30m when they shouldnt be able to, and infinite and noticeable respawns.

So if you want to play right now and enjoy whats good about the patch I suggest you hold on to your butts and to the people who havent played it but are praising the patch and accusing others of being "COD Kidz" Id politely ask you to stop contributing to the problem.

[mtuckner 46]

This release does suck. Zombie behavior is erratic and buggy. They have a spider sense to spot you and it requires to crawl all the time to avoid being detected. If you shoot at one because of aggro, expect the entire town to come down on you - and once you kill them. Expect another 20 to have spawned right away again. This is especially evident at tree stands. Yes, it is better to have a bit of fear of zombies again - but this is not the right mechanism for it. The numbers seem pumped, the respawn in instant and bullshit, and their vision is way too good. Pumped number OK. Some better vision, like one bar when crawling is totally understandable. But three bars when crouch walking, and five when crouch walking across a road is ridonkulous.

[draulxx 0]

I was being polite and trying not to ignore people. I am not wanting to be a troll or douche. I am being genuine about my experience with the game. I am happy to be playing. I just think it needs difficulty scaling.

I am however not going to let someone talk down to me without responding. I despise most of those other games mentioned. I'd much rather plus this over them. Even with it being impossible starting without a weapon.

[eegore 23]

Well I do like the increase in Zed difficulty but I do have a question about how to deal with these things at night now.

For instance a chemlight used to illuminate a Zed before he saw me, now they see me while prone long before they step into the illuminated area.

So can we negotiate at night now and survive or is it server hop to daytime servers only?

Suggestions? (And go play CoD is not a suggestion I can use, I am serious about wanting to play at night)