Fuel and Cars

[4dyce 1]

Sorry if someone has suggested this before but to be frank i have better things to do that to read through 375+ threads.

At the moment (in the Mod) Cars a rare and fuel is in abundance. I feel it would be much more fun to have more cars in game (as there is almost as many cars as there are people in the world) but have fuel a much harder product to come by. The way i was thinking about doing this (to keep the game fun and competitive) would be to have Gas/Petrol stations and Fuel tanks have a limited amount of fuel in them (maybe 1 full car tanks worth). This would mean that if you are in a group that had more than one vehicle you would have to divide the fuel up between yourselves (and would also make Jerry Cans much more useful). This would also mean you would have to plan out your route to your destination to save fuel. It would also mean that just because you have fixed up a vehicle you wont necessarily be able to use it. I was also thinking that the Fuel in the Gas/Petrol Stations and Fuel Tanks would regenerate over time, slowly. This would add to the competitive aspect of the game as groups can try and guard fuel until they have enough to move on.

In my opinion this would add a huge fun and competitive streak to the game from something as simple as this.

Let me know what you think. Cheers, 4Dyce

PS. If this HAS been covered before please don't bitch and moan about it. Thanks

[jaytmuk (DayZ) 621]

Sorry if someone has suggested this before but to be frank i have better things to do that to read through 375+ threads.

At the moment (in the Mod) Cars a rare and fuel is in abundance. I feel it would be much more fun to have more cars in game (as there is almost as many cars as there are people in the world) but have fuel a much harder product to come by. The way i was thinking about doing this (to keep the game fun and competitive) would be to have Gas/Petrol stations and Fuel tanks have a limited amount of fuel in them (maybe 1 full car tanks worth). This would mean that if you are in a group that had more than one vehicle you would have to divide the fuel up between yourselves (and would also make Jerry Cans much more useful). This would also mean you would have to plan out your route to your destination to save fuel. It would also mean that just because you have fixed up a vehicle you wont necessarily be able to use it. I was also thinking that the Fuel in the Gas/Petrol Stations and Fuel Tanks would regenerate over time, slowly. This would add to the competitive aspect of the game as groups can try and guard fuel until they have enough to move on.

In my opinion this would add a huge fun and competitive streak to the game from something as simple as this.

Let me know what you think. Cheers, 4Dyce

PS. If this HAS been covered before please don't bitch and moan about it. Thanks

Maybe gas stations have limited amounts of fuel that runs out.

Then have a fuel depot up north, and a fuel truck that can be filled from the depot (But fuel cannot be put into fuel cans or vehicles from the depot or truck.)

So players would have to fill the truck up and take it to a gas station to fill the tank up there from the truck before they can get fuel from the gas station if it was empty.

PS - the fuel truck can be fuelled at the depot only, so it can drive. But so that players dont just drive this truck about, if the tank part is shot at the truck will explode, as would irl :P

Edited November 16, 2012 by jaytmuk

[4dyce 1]

The problem with that is, no one would fill the gas stations for other people so once they are empty they would stay that way, plus some groups would just guard the depo and stop everyone else from getting any. You would be relying on someone else doing everyone a favor which just would not happen

Edited November 16, 2012 by 4dyce

[jaytmuk (DayZ) 621]

The problem with that is, no one would fill the gas stations for other people so once they are empty they would stay that way, plus some groups would just guard the depo and stop everyone else from getting any. You would be relying on someone else doing everyone a favor which just would not happen

Would be realistic, and besides most admins and clans own most the vehicles already, And people do log off so that would mean an opportunity to get in their and get that truck.

It may make people co-op a lil more cos if they dont their will be no fuel and no vehicles :P

[Heathcz 84]

this was suggested a lot of times here, and Rocket already knows about this idea and since that, this topic is pointless right now.

[4dyce 1]

Could you honestly see other people jumping into a truck, filling it with fuel and driving round to gas stations and fuel dumps to refill them for other people? Not only is that unrealistic in a zombie Apocalypse but would make the game harder and less fun for other people. If we did only have gas in the 1 area like a depo. having to run all that way to get gas then going back again to fill up your car would be less fun for those players and would take away the fun part of trying to get a vehicle. It would be a good idea for a life sim or something like the Grand Theft Cherno but for a zombie apocalypse would make no sense.

[boxman80 964]

Yes it has been discussed before (to death almost) but that doesn't detract from it being a good point, and one I believe has been noted by the developers.

The fact is the mod has it arse round - there's loads of fuel but few vehicles! Surely it makes more sense to have vehicles more common (to be honest most of them are crap anyway and offer very little advantage) and have fuel a bit harder to source.

To me it makes more sense to have players need syphoning kits as resources in addition to jerry cans and have players rely on scavenging wrecks or rarer spawnable cans fuel in industrial buildings. Syphoning the fuel should be a time consuming business to increase the risk of it and make players more vulnerable when doing it.

As far as Gas stations are concerned, maybe have a specialist syphoning drilling kit that's needed and make gas supplies limited for set periods of time in the servers life/cycle to prevent large groups of vehicles constantly being able to refuel at these bottomless pits of fuel.

[4dyce 1]

Like i said at the top, Having gas stations and fuel dumps have limited amount of fuel (enough to fill on car tank) would make it harder for people to get fuel, as the more people with cars the more empty these will be, having them fill up at a very slow rate would mean that it is possible to have your car on the road but it will be risky as other people will be looking to get the fuel too the ability to guard at gas station makes it a fun competitive addition to the game, especially for big groups with multiple vehicles i do like the idea of being able to siphon gas from other players vehicles would be cool so you can get more gas and not have to have another vehicle to tend to for the reasons above lol

Edited November 16, 2012 by 4dyce

[bombobombom 2]

I'd like it to be somewhat like the first post.

Wrecked vehicles, chopper crashes and other peoples vehicles could be sources to drain fuel from.

* Sneaking into an enemy base area and draining fuel out of their vehicles would be a great tactical move if the number of members differ too much.

* Taking the fuel out of one vehicle and putting it in a more important vehicle or one that allows for a faster or safer escape.

+ oooh shit I must go :P ~doesn't finnish~

[4dyce 1]

Also having the ability to siphon gas from downed choppers, wrecked vehicles and maybe even boats would be cool, siphoning should take a wee while too and siphoning kits should be very rare so grifers don't take advantage of it.

[gloopsgf 35]

Great idea, and realistic. Gangs would own depots, like in real life they would, And it would be fantastic to play!

[PracticalTactical 164]

I would like to see the ability to syphon gasoline out of other peoples cars gas tanks. I support the idea that gas stations should have a limited amount of fuel, and that there should be a bigger refinery up north with allot of fuel. I think if this would be implemented there should be more low fuel or no fuel type vehicles/transportation available like in real life. Horses, different bikes, unicycles?

[SystemFailure 3]

one more thing. aircraft should be filled with fuel only at airfields. these fuel tanks (at airfields) should provide fuel only for aircraft and have greater capacity. probably even something to fuel aircraft automatically, something like electric pump or something else.

[jaytmuk (DayZ) 621]

Could you honestly see other people jumping into a truck, filling it with fuel and driving round to gas stations and fuel dumps to refill them for other people? Not only is that unrealistic in a zombie Apocalypse but would make the game harder and less fun for other people. If we did only have gas in the 1 area like a depo. having to run all that way to get gas then going back again to fill up your car would be less fun for those players and would take away the fun part of trying to get a vehicle. It would be a good idea for a life sim or something like the Grand Theft Cherno but for a zombie apocalypse would make no sense.

If you have seen the film MadMax, An apocalyptic scenario where Fuel & Food are the what everyone fights for.

http://youtu.be/BisF8_i8cQQ

Fantasic films (madmax 1, 2, & 3)

Edited November 18, 2012 by jaytmuk

[4dyce 1]

If you have seen the film MadMax, An apocalyptic scenario where Fuel & Food are the what everyone fights for.

Fantasic films (madmax 1, 2, & 3)

All im saying is that for a fun gaming prospective no one will physically go round filling up fuel stations, chore's with no rewards is a crap way to design a game and no one will play that role. maybe one or two people will a couple of times but then they would abandon that role. plus think about how much the fuel stations hold, ones cars worth on a popular server by the time you have finished your rounds you will have to do it all again lol no fun what so ever. like i have said before the more realism in this game the less fun it is going to be. i do like the idea of a depo having an unlimited amount in it to go along with the slow regenerating stations as it would give people something to fight over and have a purpose for keeping it to your clan/guild/group

Edited November 18, 2012 by 4dyce