Guns for Girls

[Sula 1205]

So there are short guns and long guns. As far as I can tell the short guns are called side arms or hand guns and the long ones are called rifles. However, some of them aren't called rifles. But why?

Why is a sub-machine gun, sub?

Why are light machine guns not called rifles? Or are they?

Is a sniper rifle just an assault rifle with a better scope?

Is a pwd an ouzi and if so, why isn't it called that? is it a sub-machine gun? Or is different because it's smaller?

Why is an 1911 sometimes called a glock and a g17 also called a glock?

What's the difference between the shot guns and rifles - OR - are all long guns riles, even if they're shot guns, assault rifles, sniper rifles or other?

Does anyone know a good, serious website for information on guns?

Thanks :)

Edited October 25, 2012 by Sula

[void.false@gmail.com 300]

http://world.guns.ru/index-e.html

The submachine gun is an automatic or selective-fired shoulder weapon that fires pistol-caliber ammunition.

This is the best weapons site on the interwebs. You'll find all your answers there.

About PDW. It was discussed. It's indeed micro-UZI. BIS probably had some licensing issues so they couldn't call it UZI and used PDW instead.

Edited October 25, 2012 by void_false

[Welch (DayZ) 756]

Sub machine guns are sub because they're smaller than Assault Rifles.

Light Machine guns are larger than rifles.

Sniper rifles are scoped rifles that usually pack a larger punch from a farther distance.

A PWD is a Personal Defense Weapon, it's made to be small and conceiled.

A 1911 isn't called a glock, an 1911 is a seperate pistol/sidearm. A Glock is a G17.

A shot gun is usually closer range, and has a shell round that shoots out little pellets. So one shot from a shotgun can make 8 small little holes in a target.

This is just from my knowledge, it could be wrong, but that's all I know really. Nothing too extensive.

[morgan32 403]

Some research on Google should answer that. What does this have to do with girls? o.o

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

I'm not the most knowledgable but I can answer one question. Rifles come in many variations so it can be confusing. The name actually comes form the "rifling" of the barrel which is spiral grooves carved into the bore to makes the bullet spin to stop it tumbling through the air. Usually a rifle is a single shot weapon fired from the shoulder.

[evoxtom 142]

There is no such thing as a glock 1911. They are polymer framed pistols that have no external hammer (the "fin" in the back that strikes the bullet.)

Glock has a model called the g17 in game, which is the 9mm glock model holding 17 rounds.

The PDW is technically an Uzi and it is a sub machine gun.

In simple man terms, you can think of sub machine gun as a medium between pistol and rifle. They're in the middle seeing their length is longer than a handgun while shorter than a rifle.

Shotguns will fire pellets and slugs. Both of which cannot shoot as accurately to far distances as a rifle can. Shotguns are used at close for a more effective blast, and are often more maneuverable because of their profile. Rifles have a higher fire rate and are more accurate at long distances.

Shotgun slugs are used to hit targets at a further range because of less spread. Shotgun pellets should be used up close due to spread damage. Think of pellets like a hundred bb's coming at you when they leave the shotgun. Slugs are like one big bullet.

Some snipers are rifles with better scopes. Such as the mk12 spr (technically.) the DMR is an M14 AIM with a scope, and the dragonuv is a AK with a longer barrel and long range scope. Meanwhile, the m24 , m107, and .50 cal are purpose built sniper rifles. Some snipers are built to be just that.

I tried to keep this simple and understandable. I would give a website but I'm on my phone.

Edited October 25, 2012 by evoxtom

[Leadon77 94]

Ok so I have a tad bit of knowledge here.... A sniper rifle is usually made of higher quality materials for more consistent grouping of rounds on a target, if you shoot the same shot 100 times with a sniper rifle your more accurate than with a normal rifle even with the same scope/rounds. The 1911 is not a Glock some people call it that but that's incorrect. Glock is a name brand and the make many differant pistols. Shotguns shoot either pellets or slugs, but from a plastic cartridge not a metal round. The pellets can be large or small and vary in number from 4 to 200 (birdshot) usually. The submachine gun used to be a subsonic round, not sure if this is still the case but it fires faster and quiter than a normal rifle due to that. Assault rifle's vary greatly but are called rifles for the "rifling" in the barrel, assault because the usually come in variations of semi/full/single shot selection.

Did I miss anything?

[Sula 1205]

Thanks everyone. I didn't just go straight to google because there are millions of pages and I wouldn't know where to start. I want to learn more about guns, the technical stuff, so I thought I'd ask for your recommendations.

Thanks for the web address - I'll take a look. :thumbsup:

What's it got to do with guns for girls? They're guns and I'm a woman (but that doesn't rhyme so well). :)

Edited October 25, 2012 by Sula

[intensity (DayZ) 312]

the dragonuv is a AK with a longer barrel and long range scope.

That just made me laugh, a lot.

[DrunkPunk 159]

I recommend researching it yourself, gamers are often times only carrying around knowledge they picked up from video games so often times, it's pretty inaccurate.The best place to start is with your first question, and probably wikipedia. I'll answer a couple of them for you, though.

The first response nailed the sub machine gun bit.

Sniper rifles are rifles designed for marksman shooting, meaning maintaining pinpoint accuracy at long ranges. They pack a much larger punch, and generally have a longer barrel for better accuracy.

Shotguns and rifles use drastically different styles of ammo, and are used for different things. Rifles are meant for mid-long range encounters, firing bullets, while shotguns are meant for close/mid range and fire shells. The shells come in several flavors, but the most common are buckshot (tons of small pellets in the shell, paired with gunpowder, that is REALLY destructive at really close ranges, but loses velocity incredibly quickly, making them useless at mid-long range), and slugs (a single giant bullet in the shell, which causes massive destruction, and depending on the slug can maintain pretty good velocity for mid-range shots).

[Sula 1205]

Well, yes, obviously I'm going to research it myself! I wasn't going to pay anyone else to do it. As I said before, I asked for info here because I thought some people might know where I could start - and they did. So that was great. Thank you for much! :) :thumbsup: :beans:

[tommes 331]

...and the dragonuv is a AK with a longer barrel and long range scope...

Not true. There are similarities but they are different rifles. The AK-47 or AKM shoots 7.62 x 39, the dragunov 7.62x54R

[evoxtom 142]

Not true. There are similarities but they are different rifles. The AK-47 or AKM shoots 7.62 x 39, the dragunov 7.62x54R

Oh come on now. Lets not argue over peanuts when I stated I'm being as basic as can be. I think it got the point across. No need to get technical on someone with caliber differences and twist rates.

[klesh 2423]

So there are short guns and long guns. As far as I can tell the short guns are called side arms or hand guns and the long ones are called rifles. However, some of them aren't called rifles. But why?

You've already gotten some great replies here, but I'll throw mine in on the questions I felt needed a little more background history and clarification. Besides, I like girls. :P

Why is a sub-machine gun, sub?

Because what they shoot is smaller than larger, stationary machine guns. The "sub" means sub-calibre, where the calibre is the diameter of the bullet being shot out of it. Often times these bullets are the same size as pistols. Another early term for a sub-machine gun was "machine pistol". Machine Guns is really a term that was coined for automatic shooting weapons: hold the trigger and pew pew pew! This was around WWI and the decades before. Then as more automatic firing weapons were developed, they added to the generic term machine gun. This is why you have a handheld "sub-machine gun" (which was invented basically to sweep the trenches in WWI after you rushed them), as well as light and heavy machine guns. The difference between light and heavy is often the mount they are on. "Heavy" machine guns are stationary and mounded usually on a tripod or fixed vehicle mount, whereas "light" machine guns can be carried around (usually with a team of dudes, one carries the gun and the other the big boxes of ammo) and usually have a bipod attached to the front so you can pick it up and run about with it. Light and heavy machine guns can often fire the same exact bullets.

Is a sniper rifle just an assault rifle with a better scope?

No. Assault rifles were invented in WWII to give automatic fire like a sub-machine gun while still maintaining the characteristics of a rifle (larger bullet, more damage, longer travel, better accuracy). Think of them as elongated sub-machine guns, the latter being extremely inaccurate past 100m. After WWII, many assault rifles were changed from firing actual rifle bullets, to slightly smaller bullets, because wars were no longer being fought at long, 600m battles; your M16's and M4's and such.

Sniper rifles were initially regular infantry rifles that were made extra well, often sent back to a factory to be enhanced with tight fitting parts, optics, super precise barrels etc... extra TLC on them, because they were only given to the best shots. Oldschool ones were regular, bolt action rifles like every grunt had, only tricked out a little sometimes just plopping a scope on top. Eventually they started developing them specifically to suit the sniper role, and they became a class of gun in their own right. A great example of this ingame is the M14/DMR. The M14 was a regular grunt rifle, and then it was decided to really trick them out, where the stocks were replaced and barrels and all kinds of doodads, such that it becomes almost a new gun. Further that concept, and you've got guns like the AS50 and M107, which are specifically and only used for sniping.

What's the difference between the shot guns and rifles - OR - are all long guns riles, even if they're shot guns, assault rifles, sniper rifles or other?

You can think of shotguns like hand cannons. Their shells are loaded either with a cannonball, or grapeshot. You would shoot a deer with the cannonball and a duck or goose with the grapeshot. In fact, they have all kinds of sizes of the grapeshoot depending on what you're hunting, but they all fit into the same sized shell. Shotguns do come in different calibres, but for some reason with shotguns its referred to as gauges. The lower the gauge number, the biggger diameter the hand cannon. Rifles are only shooting "cartridges" which is the bullet stuck on a usually metal casing. Indeed, the technical term rifle comes from the process of rifling, which as was mentioned is cutting small groves inside the barrel to make the bullet rotate in flight, like an American football when thrown. However, tank cannons, assault rifles, sub, light and heavy machine guns, old fashioned wheeled cannons, and in-fact shotguns can be "rifled" by using this screw design in their barrels, but they are not called rifles per se.

I hope that helps even though you've gotten great responses already. Wikipedia is all you need to learn more about guns without getting too dorked out on them. :thumbsup:

[Steak and Potatoes 13480]

Dont forget variants differ on wether they have a pistol grip or not i.e. m4 pistol grip (assault rifle)

[tigerww2 24]

Why is a sub-machine gun, sub?

it's a smaller form of a machine gun, firing pistol rounds

Why are light machine guns not called rifles? Or are they?

they fire rifle rounds at a rate higher than a rifle, there for they are machine guns

Is a sniper rifle just an assault rifle with a better scope?

no, it fires battle-rifle caliber rounds

otherwise it's a scoped assault rifle

Is a pwd an ouzi and if so, why isn't it called that? is it a sub-machine gun? Or is different because it's smaller?

it classifies as a smg. they didnt call it uzi... idk why lol

Why is an 1911 sometimes called a glock and a g17 also called a glock?

they're not

What's the difference between the shot guns and rifles - OR - are all long guns riles, even if they're shot guns, assault rifles, sniper rifles or other?

shotguns fire pellets and slugs, rifles fire rifle bullets. no, but most are.

Does anyone know a good, serious website for information on guns?

lol no

[Sula 1205]

Klesh, thanks. That really was very helpful and informative. :thumbsup:

Void, that website is very interesting. I spent a couple of hours there last night reading about guns. Fascinating to find we British made guns in the 1910s. They looked like the kind used in the the very old black and white spy movies. :thumbsup: