Over 2500+ cheaters busted with admin spectating tool

[WalkerDown (DayZ) 296]

With all those 12yo kid admins out there.. i won't give em a spectating tool: they will turn it instantly from anti-cheat tool to the opposite, using it for cheating themself with their own baby-clan (if it's not already happening...).

[kebman 213]

Biiiig problems

How do you know if the hacker teleported himself, or if it were some poor sod being unwillingly teleported by another?

How do you know if the rabbit wasn't just a poor sod that was hacked? A bit unfair to ban possible victims, don't you think?

Also, the tool can be used to spy where regular players put their bases, or to spy on legitimate tactical movement, making the tool itself yet another way to cheat...

[h3xxus 1]

All you hackers are runnin scared! Scared of admins having this tool? I say release it to the public. Give the admins ability to keep tabs on people. If its a true honest admin he/she wont abuse it, and if its not a honest admin then watch the server die. I sit in front of my computer screen watching/reloading scripts, remoteexec, createvehicle, and other etc logs pass by jus for the sheer winningness of catching a hacker. With this ability admins would finally have the ability to catch them in the act. When an admin bans a legit hacker theres no better feeling... MAKE IT SO!

Maybe even make it manditory on global chat saying something like "This server is spectated/monitored". That way people can decide if they want an admin spectating or not, With this, people will join a server, see the message and have reassurance that they have a guardian angel/admin on their side.

Edited October 26, 2012 by HardK0R3Z

[sostronk 334]

All you hackers are runnin scared! Scared of admins having this tool? I say release it to the public. Give the admins ability to keep tabs on people. If its a true honest admin he/she wont abuse it, and if its not a honest admin then watch the server die. I sit in front of my computer screen watching/reloading scripts, remoteexec, createvehicle, and other etc logs pass by jus for the sheer winningness of catching a hacker. With this ability admins would finally have the ability to catch them in the act. When an admin bans a legit hacker theres no better feeling... MAKE IT SO!

Have you read anything that has been said? Obviously not. This tool is completely inconclusive for most hacks that DayZ players use. These tools are used by admins to hack themselves and gain an advantage over other players. Everything that this tool can identify as a speculative hack can be outright detected in the logs.

[WalkerDown (DayZ) 296]

All you hackers are runnin scared! Scared of admins having this tool? I say release it to the public.

I suggest you to turn on your brain before suggesting anything like this. Do you want publicly release a cheat and even worse make it legit because it can help honest admins to catch the cheaters? The absurd part is that you recognize that there are cheaters out there, but without considering that these same dishonest ppl would use this tool for their own (not legit) purpose. You want to give to the cheaters another way to cheat?

Are you stupid or just naive? :o

EDIT: i didn't figured you had only two posts (...and Member Since Today, 04:18 AM)... i should remove this post, since you're probably a troll. :)

Edited October 26, 2012 by WalkerDown

[Michaelvoodoo25 3120]

Does this cause laggyness by an chance when your observing players? I had a few occasions today playing on Active admin sites where my FPS became really laggy for a few seconds!

[soppa 39]

Does this cause laggyness by an chance when your observing players? I had a few occasions today playing on Active admin sites where my FPS became really laggy for a few seconds!

Nope, you wont see it any way if admin is spectating you. It wont cause any lag for you.

[h3xxus 1]

I understand some people would use this as a runaround hack yes, but if this were to be limited to use, maybe make it server side only, then it would be an excellent tool for admins to have.

[xProlithium (DayZ) 13]

Simple way to moderate who has the ability to spectate on a server is put the scripts server side, have a client side pbo, add a bi-sign that only allows specific GUID/Playername/IP cross reference to a server side white list to gain the tool, have the script initiation bind to a certain key; That in itself gives specific admins this tool. If that admin abuses the tool, he is simply removed from the bi-sign and white list and is kicked from the server instantly until he removes his client side files.

If you truly believe that having no admin tools is the best policy, then in that case you will end up still having hackers. You take a risk no matter what decision you make. If you choose to not have admin tools, you will always have hackers. If you use it, certain admins MIGHT abuse it. Id rather risk an admin abusing it and just remove them as admin then have a hacker i cannot stop.

[finkone 320]

Soppa, bad ass - hands down. I'm still looking for a decent home server I'm rather new to DayZ - you guys have anything close to the eastern coast?

Again, thats just great to see admins active like that. I got teleported recently to a freakin' island out in the middle of no-where and it just sucked after I spent a good bit of time trying to stay alive.

[h3xxus 1]

Have you read anything that has been said? Obviously not. This tool is completely inconclusive for most hacks that DayZ players use. These tools are used by admins to hack themselves and gain an advantage over other players. Everything that this tool can identify as a speculative hack can be outright detected in the logs.

Lemme see if I can deliver my rebuttal to said statements...

I've read the posts. Obviously... The tool may not detect ALL hacks possible, sure... but it's better than what admins have at the time being. If this tool were used by admins to "gain advantage" than that said admin is a looser. HONEST admins would use it for good, and wouldn't you prefer an admin finding your camp rather than a hacker who intends to blow your said camp up? "Everything that this tool can identify as a speculative hack can be outright detected in the logs" This statement made me laugh a bit... 90% of the hacks out there are near impossible to catch in the logs, ESPECIALLY teleporting. Teleporting isnt in the logs because the game simply just considers you moving from one point to another, as if running. The time it takes to get from one side of the map to the other side means NOTHING to the server. Simply put, if you want to catch more hackers (which this video proves is possible) then this should be released for those who want to protect their servers even more. And everything Prolithium said is spot on. The mans a genius... I still think if you're against this being an admin tool, then your probably just running scared "O no, they can WATCH us hacking now? This cant be good" or your just severely misinformed.

"Id rather risk an admin abusing it and just remove them as admin then have a hacker i cannot stop." <----WELL SAID

Edited October 28, 2012 by HardK0R3Z

[SqTH 260]

Not sure if it will get released for the public. Need to wait and see :(

Don't worry, others are coding the same thing, you dont need, YOU NEVER NEED to go to a hoster to get those scripts.

We already have some spectate tools since september, but at this time people would cry and should "cheater admins".

[Chris529 380]

that's an awesome tool! You can spectate suspected hackers and catch them red handed and perm them before they knew what hit them. Only problem would be admin abuse but as long as admins are kept in check it would be a good thing.

[sausagekingofchicago 4711]

I guess we should weigh the points here.

It'll help private server admins spot obvious hackers. Some innocent guys might get banned from these servers but that's happening now anyway.

It can also be used by abusive server admins to track players and vehicles more easily. Well, that's happening too, be it admins or not. The only difference is how accurate it is compared to map hacks out there. (videos folks)

This is only a slightly more effective tool for abusive admins and a much more effective tool for honest and legit admins that want to prevent the hackers from destroying their server. This might help catch even more map hackers. Having the ability to watch people play rather than read long logs might make policing a server more enjoyable and make administering a server less of a chore.

The pros outweigh the cons from my standpoint. It doesn't sound like this will be possible in the standalone anyway but I could be wrong.

[MissBehave 37]

Whats really

Whats really sad is the new standalone version of DayZ is not going to have any admin tools so were going to be helpless. I watched the video where the guys says they are going to address the situation but not give admins any tools. They are kidding themselves if they think it's not going to get hacked within the first week it's released.

What is sad is that right now we really don't have any tools either. */rimshot* But in all seriousness I hope this is given some more thought. So far the issue in dayz isn't abusive admins, its unsupported admins.

[redemptionse 9]

Clans are going to use this to defend their camps on their servers

[Kaffarov37 125]

BAN THEM ALL!

[h3xxus 1]

Clans are going to use this to defend their camps on their servers

Oh? So you'd prefer hackers then? =/

[WalkerDown (DayZ) 296]

Oh? So you'd prefer hackers then? =/

Cheaters won't stop to cheat because there might be someone looking at em.. since this is happening already!

Now imagine me with the DayZ Navigator .. i go on random servers claiming that i'm the dayz police, with the sole purpose of finding who's spawning stuff, who's teleporting, and stuff like that... this will make me automagically an "awesome player" fully committed to help the community.. or i'll remain a cheater who claims to cheat for the justice?

Admins ARE players, it's not that having some spare money to buy a remote server will make you a "special" (honest) person .. so if we're going to legalize this, let legalize any ESP out there, in the end we could use it to find the cheaters!

No it doesn't work... cheaters are still cheaters.. and the OP is using a CHEAT trying to catch other cheaters. If you're going to legitimate this, lemme know.. i'll start to do the "police cheater" as well.. at least i won't die anymore because of them.. but then don't blame us when the toy will be out of control.

[Avean (DayZ) 31]

2500 players banned from one server ?

[soppa 39]

2500 players banned from one server ?

These are from 30 =Olut= Sisu servers april-october