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A friend of mine and I were playing on Aug. 1st on this server with minimal problems. Aug. 2nd, however, we invited other friends to play here, my first friend and I had found a boat, and set up a tent. Our group of friends and I thought it a good idea to set up a camp on this server. Then, my second friend and I, on Aug. 2nd, started to get booted because of "Error #79". We weren't sure what that was, so my 2nd friend went back to the server he usually played on and I went and had dinner. After dinner, my 2nd friend and I had decided that maybe his server he had been playing on might be a better fit. I figured that was cool, so I logged into US 403 to start the trek (I had died) to our tent to transfer it. That's when the kicks started. Initially, I spawned in Elektro and noticed Roasthawkmoon flying around. NBD. I tried to stay out of the way, and eventually found my way, along the coast, to either Kamyshovo or Solichny - it was one of the two. The time was around 1:39am EST. I saw a heli crash. It was Roasthawkmoon's. I traveled back to the town to look for bodies and loot - but I was kicked with the message, "You were kicked from the server." I figured it was fine. I logged back in, and was kicked after a few seconds (maybe 15) with the same message. I thought it was a bug, so I thought, "you know what? Even if it is the admin, I'll leave the area if I can log back in and just grab our tent." I trucked off the area and was fine...for a while. Then I hit the next town along the coast. Some vehicle came hauling ass through town, then blew up around a bridge. I thought, "Hm. Could be the admin again, maybe there are bodies around I can loot," as the same four died in that crash as the heli crash. I'm kicked again with the "You were kicked from the server." message. At this point, I'm figuring something fishy might be going on. I'm also drunk as hell. So, I log back into the server, but before I spawn my character, I type, into the group chat, "Hey, I saw you crash your vehicles twice now, and I've been booted off the server twice. Quit being a dick, Roasthawkmoon." I'm not sure if BOTH were his vehicles. I'm still not sure, as I was drunk. But what convinces me is this: I logged back in before writing in group chat. Instead of night, it was now 1pm, and there was a lot of automatic gunfire coming from where the crash would have happened. I was kicked (with the same "you were kicked" message as earlier). I logged back in after posting to group chat. A minute or so later, I get a message from Roasthawkmoon saying if I logged into this server again, I would be banned. I logged in again to ask why - was it my tone? I just wanted my tent. About a minute after I logged in the most recent time to this server, Roasthawkmoon sent me a message stating, "you've been warned. have fun paying another 12-30 bucks for a new copy. i'm reporting you to battleeye." I've had zero problems before (admittedly, it was a short time), or since playing on the server. I've never cheated, I love the game, but I felt that I had to share this. I also tried to take screenshots. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. turned out flat black. I haven't checked Steam to see if there's anything I could recover from there regarding the issue, but it's been a couple days, and there's been no arbitrary ban, so I haven't checked. Not complaining, not trying to get anyone in trouble, but just warning. I won't pretend to know this particular admin's reasons for the ban (mostly, because he wouldn't tell me), but know that SOME admins will threaten you with a super-ban-hammer to ruin your key. Heads up.

I think there's a bug with saving vehicles but I'm not sure, someone else confirm it.

Oh well... Seems like Tents isn't saving, such as vehicles. Is this only on your server? or what the hell is going on. The server restart at 02:00 AM went full rollback. My bus is gone from where i saved it. My tent is completely empty. Can you check what is up with the save on the server?

did you find thos vehicles using some sort of map? if yes which one :)?

Just what she said. if you check www.dayzdb.com you can see the spawns for vehicles in-game. Sure, they may not be where they are "supposed" to be if someone managed to repair it, get it moving, then ran into a barricade, but you can click the actual vehicle spawns on the Map there and see the images of the vehicles. This will give you a good start. Bear in mind that on top of the "parts" (engine parts, fuel tank parts, wheels, Rich Corinthian Leather seats. etc.) you are going to need a toolbox on your tool belt to repair said vehicles. By the by... bicycles rules!

Wow, what a day of Dayz!!!! It started off with my friend asking me to show him how to play the game, he had no idea where he was, long story short we finally found out where he was (cherno) so I came down south at Electroz. He was on the mountain side in Cherno so I got on the mountain side and started to head over there. What do I see out of the corner of my eye at the farm north of Electroz? A bike! Ima ll excited as I have a bike on another server to and I just love them. As I am about to leave I see a Truck to! I check whats in the truck and its a GOLD mine, 3 guille suites, 2 night vision goggles, a few guns, some ammo and 7 things of gas. The truck had issues though, so I went to grab the stuff I needed and came back to it to fix it up. It really felt like someone had parked this thing to go look for parts to it in Electroz or something. I then go to pick up my buddy, hes all excited to try a different gun out and what not. Then another friend msgs me, asks if I can pick up him and his friend, so we go pick em up past bolata and then head up north. I forgot one thing, on the way to pick up the other two people I got sick and started to cough, so my one friend ran a bit away and guarded the truck whiel I ran to hospital in Cherno PRAYING to find some Antbiotics (which I luckily find) and we are on our way. We hit up a crashed heli and I find NVG (only 2nd ones ive ever found on heli crash) and grab some food which we need. They then have to log off so they do. Me and my newbie friend then keep hitting up cities up north. We get to a building near a marketplace and grab a bunch of things, I go up on the top to see if anyone is around and what do I see? A truck!! Going right towards where we had parked ours! So we start to shoot at this other truck to scare it off and it turns around in a hurry and gets away. Thanksfully they didnt get our truck full of goodies though. Then we head towards stary and on the way we see a blue truck sitting near a small building, I tell my friend "Dude! Looks like another truck! Lets check it!". As soon as we get in our truck to go see it we noticed people running back into it and taking off in a hurry. I think they saw us and didnt want to get the truck jacked (same as us) so we went another way aswell. We head down south again for some fun, the server is bout to restart so we hide the truck somewhere and save it, then I get back on 10mins later and another friend msg's me I tell him about the adventures, so he logs on and i go find him in cherno and pick him up. We get him a few things then leave towards electroz where the bike was that I saw. Its not there so we leave up north and what do we see? an ATV! we drive towards it and they get out and shoot, I run over one of them (I though maybe two) but the second one somehow shot me and my buddy threw the window. So one of there guys dead and me and my friend dead. They got all the stuff and the vehicle, but you know what? That was the most fun I have had in ages, just so many crazy things happened during these 5 hours today. If either of you two ATV dudes who got that truck are on these forums, CHEERS! That was impressive! When I first foudn that truck I though maybe it was a hacked one because of the guille suites (never seen that many in one spot before), but then again me and my friends a month ago had gotten 4 vehicles full of even better stuff (minus the ghuille suits) so it could have been legit, Im not to sure. I just stumbled upon a truck full of goodies and thats how the day went (: We then started again adn actually saw the two guys on the atv after druinvg towards cherno to grab the truck and what not. We played for another hour, got some good things and then both got shot on the way to electro to see if our bodies or truck was there lol. Anyways, sorry for the long post, was just an epic day of Dayz! Game rules! Even with all the crappy artifacts near military stuff. Server was US 501 Atlanata by the way

1 Satchel is not really worth that much since you really can't do that much to camps/etc to it except maybe take down one or two vehicles. Although they are pretty rare. You could probably get a good M4 for it, but prolly not silenced

I've been to green mountain to look for a vehicle spawn a couple times. What happened to everybody? I'm doing great in DayZ I have best weapons and huey with plenty of vehicles

A case of friendliness in the harsh world of DayZ....and what an epic night it was. My team and me ( a total of 8 guys, tonight only 7 tho) had hidden our vehicles in the woods (a place IMPOSSIBLE to see from the outside...you had to stumble upon it) I was logged out and most of the team spread out looting/killing when someone attacked and killed the two guys that were left behind at the tent. I quickly logged back in...and got shot before I even spawned (which turned out to be a blessing....cause I respawned with all my gear...still had my M017) The others moved back to the camp and saw the guy drive off with our white Pickup. They engaged him...hit him multiple times with SVDs and Mk48s....he didn't go down. They all got shot. So it was all me, hoofing it up there with my gear. When I got up there, the Pickup was in flames...and so was our camp, all the vehicles gone, 2 ATVs destroyed. My guys had just mostly found their scattered bodies to get their loot back. I was near our campsite with one more guy when suddenly a helicopter (later turns out to be hacked...by the same guy who killed us at our camp) lifts out of the woods about 500 meters away. I quicky lined up my M107 and pumped 8 rounds into it. I hit the pilot at some point, cause I saw blood gushing from the helo, the engine went off and it crashed in a rock formation with a huge explosion....igot one murder. But two more guys died. So as it turned out, ANOTHER group (the server owners and friends) were in the SAME area and had shot at the helo too...and two of them got killed by the crashing helicopter (what are the odds?). They had been looking for our camp, since we had raided theirs (and shot three of them in it) just two days ago. We had stolen all their loot, the UAZ and the Ural. So I quickly hopped onto their TS an we got to talking.....and in the end, we had the groups (13 people..every person that was on the server at that point...) merged at one place, on a temporary truce. We shared the loot from the dead and talked some. The groupst were mixed within each other....and trust wasn't exactly high because of the mutual camp-raiding and prior engagements. People were getting more and more edgy....more and more people having their weapons raised. In case of a snap...the odds would've been in our favor (2 more people...and 2 medium machine guns) but it still would've been ugly. So we quickly worked something out. The two busses we had stashed a way off from our camp (didnt wanna move them through the woods) were quickly split, one bus for each group and we went our seperate ways in peace, not a single shot fired. We went to find antibiotics...no idea what they did....but we had two more bus-bourne run ins, both ended with a few friendly honks and no more shots fired. After that tho, we gave everyone in our group clearance to fire. We didn't want them following us anymore. We didn't run into them anymore, so all went quiet. The next encouter will occur on other odds and probably wont end friendly...but it sure as hell was nice to see that two groups, geared as they were, can NOT shoot at each other for once and instead come to an agreement. So to you HoT guys: cheers brothers, was a fun night, we had some laughs. And all ended good for us in the end. We're looking forward to repelling your next attempts to find our camp and get your stuff back!

Ahh good idea :P And yes we still want to go through with it. Our server was hacked and we lost some vehicles so we need to drive them to a new location after fixing them all, and it takes a while after that we can get back to planning.

oh well, you learnt that fast moving vehicles are bad. I guess some people just don't want their windscreens washed eh! :D

Some are apart of the environment and you can't repair them, they're just there for show. However, there are some vehicles, listed here (http://dayzdb.com/database/vehicles) that can be found and repaired. You can find them on the map by looking for the appropriate icons, e.g. http://dayzdb.com/map#3.096.129.

So I'm playing the game since ~6 days, found some vehicles to drive. I just don't know how to repair wrecked cars... Well, I know that you need parts like tires, engine etc. to repair it but I just don't know which cars are repairable. I'm seeing the whole time damaged "cars" on the roads and stuff but it doesn't seem that they are repairable. greetings

This is exactly the kind of post I can relate to. Either I have the absolute worst luck with finding/driving vehicles, or something is up.

oh yeah.. forgot to mention. There is also a bug. Sometimes when the server restarts vehicles and tents are NOT there at all. They usually come back on the next server restart. So If your 100percent certain the vehicle was there. Then wait for the next server restart.

I found a campsite near the north dam. I sneak in there when the guys all go on trips. Often times I have to kill the ONE guard they leave, but other than that it's pretty simple. If I can, I don't kill people and focus on the vehicles where they keep all the juicy stuff. That camp is so big that I can sneak in and grab stuff at night. Oh and I camp on the other hill, watching them run around during primetime. I think their sniper guard might be edging my way, so I'll have to take care of that somehow, but I'm not too worried.

I always have the most fun with guerilla style tents Individual tents randomly spread across the countryside, all marked and filled with stuff I found along the way No vehicles beside bicyces and motorbikes The most mobile and versatile way of playing DayZ Whenever you find something you don't need right now you just drop it off in the tent closest to your location And if it gets stolen...meh....you didn't need it that much anyway if you put it in the tent Definately beats the all-out vehicle and item hoarding with tent cities that may get compromised and flattened in a matter of weeks

Thanks for your feedback. With regards to that list of vehicles, yes its a bit OTT. :) I did stress that there's no way you could have that much shit on a small server/map. Thanks! :)

Short Version: Hacker spawning boats/helis on NL 13 Long Version: Right, I started playing on NL 13 3 weeks ago, wasn't playing much, like 2 hours a week I guess. 1 week ago, I started playing intensively, like 7 hours a day. I was just randomly on the road and saw a Ural, while I screamed on direct com, YOU SHALL NOT PASS. They stopped. Good, we went talking and became friends, afterwards I raided together with them. During that, I noticed something. Recently found a Tent Camp with lots of m4a1 cco SDs, as50 and all the other l33t st00f. First time I tried to go there, there were two guys in ghillie, they were moving crouched, shot 6 times with m107, but missed. They aborted and changed position. Right I can take that, as I had an L85 Spotter. I was camping that area for 30 minutes, then randomly, chopper cames in with two guys, I kept shooting at it, but it just continued it way. Not sure if I hitted no smoke came out. Right, still no sign of those guys. So I decided to server hop too, to let those guys taste abit of their own medicine, now, 1 minute after I logged off and joined other server to change position. Just north west of my position where he had a clear view of my old position. We spotted nothing at all with infrared until that guy logged in, so I told my friend to shoot him with m107. Succes. Now I went to my new position in NL 13, suddenly I see something dead on the ground, I move towards it and got shot at without a single sound. Right, that is still legal, because if you get HS with as50 or other instant kill weapon you don't hear anything. Now my friend saw a other guy, told him to shoot, he killed them yay. Suddenly a wookie with a AK just rambo'd my friend and we are both dead. Well, we accepted it as defeat and went off, I logged in about 5 hours later to raid their tents again, was a succes, but got shot after I ran about 100m. Meh. Still legal. 2 hours later, I go with those guys with a ural, looted everything and hided the Ural somewhere safe, next day it was gone. buhu shit happens. Now on to the next chapter, a few days pass and my friends and I acquire 2 busses, 1 lada, 1 tractor and a pick up truck. As we were all chilling at the base, I went north up to set up a secret backup tent until I got shot, I tell my friends on the teamspeak, as a result: Half our team dead until we found that sniper with l85. Now what happens after, our guys got shot again and only 1 guy remains, he keeps watching our tents and vehicles until a fucking boat spawned right there and a vehicle was heard, then, boom. All our vehicles exploded. And my friend was slaughtered. Luckily server restart happened in less than a hour and all vehicles were luckily intact. AWW YEAH! Now the next encounter is when my friends are looking for chopper crash sites. They suddenly hear a loud chopper and a chopper just randomly spawned behind them with a guy driving it and following, my friends got out and we shot it down. now we all got teleported, even I, I got to the beach, while my friends got spawned in between an army of zombies. We got out, waited 5 minutes and got in again. Seems he left. But we didn't know he would come back. Now, we were north of lopatino, searching, we found 4 tents, 1 inaccessible, the other 3 were full of m4cco sd, 3 gps and some nvg and rangefinders. We also found a bike. We were with 3 people. So I told the two to go back to base to pick up a vehicle with more space so we can loot this. Now I went AFK in a pine tree, i go back to ask for the situation. Suddenly burst of dmr shots around me. I server hop like the coward I am to a other spot. Got shot the moment I spawned. Now the weird part is, there was a boat, freaking north of it on top of a mountain. also the guy probably tried to shoot me 30 times or so as he couldn't hit me on sight. Coincidences? Maybe. But there is no motherfuckin' boat spawning on top of a mountain.

Ya so as the title states I got killed at my own site. I usually do not bother with tents and storing vehicles anymore, but I was tempted and did so. Was good for a few days. When I logged in I was in between two of the tractors I ended up finding and hording...like a greedy horder I guess. Hoped into one of them to move so I can get out and was instantly gunned down from my blind side. It's all whatever. I ended up meeting up with my buddy and got into a nice firefight in Elecktro and had some fun...more fun then running around looking for more loot to horde. I am 100% done with hording and instead will enjoy the game the way I think it's fun for me. Co-op with friends.

Hello everyone, I'm Adrian and I'm looking for a new clan. I am 16 years old and live in Canada I play on US Servers only because my ping gets too high on certain UK servers. I have been playing DayZ non-stop for past couple days and I now have 2 vehicles and plenty of ammo and weapons to start a small war. I work well with others and I am alright at sniping nothing spectacular though. I would love to join a clan with others and take areas of the map, I am tired of playing a lone wolf. Message me on the forum if you would like me to join you. -Adrian

I don't think people realize how bad the hording is, the other day I found a Bus, Old Hatchback, ATV, V3S, Uriel, S1023 Van, and a Tractor that is 6 Vehicles. It is Completely unecessary to have that many they also had about 30 tents of gear. I stole them all and made a vid of it lol (stil editing) I've since lost them all to either server glitches or bandits. I know 1 went to a single player the rest i dont know but im guessing the clan took them back which is a shame because i liked that server. P.S. It took me about 1 week of game play spread over 3 WEEKS to find these vehicles, before this i hadn't seen a single vehicle.

As i played this awesome game a long time now, I'd like to create a codex of good gaming. I mean the nicest moments i expierenced would always fit in it, and some behaviour is really annoying nad takes away a lot of fun from the game. So, here are my ideas how to behave when playing, as the game cannot force anybody to behave like this. General: -1- Love your character, it is him/her who has to survive and you should always try to survive. -2- Do not Alt+f4, neither hop servers to get to a good location or walk behind a player, relogg and kill him from behind. -----2.1- you should not hop server to get a nice weahter/daytime, but espiacally at the beginning a starless night is way hard to play. -----2.2- you should try to find one or a few home servers, you basically play at, so you get a community to deal with, may sattle down with some tents and/or vehicle/s -3-obvious but Do not hack/script, it is not the way of fun the game could provides normally, when you just get yourself an advantage and just kill evryone, when you need frags play CoD -----3.1- neither abuse bugs, for the same reason, seriously it makes the game to easy. Hardcore: -1- play on servers being at least veteran, so you have to estimate ranges, and the player/stuff recognition isn't that easy. -2- Do not create a backup camp to gear up quickly, it makes the death less important, as you just walk 20 minutes and have anything again -----2.1- if you're playing in a clan, your clan should figure out, whether the dayz experience or the group play is more important for you. if it is the experience then don't use the camp you created for gearing up again (i bet you have a clan camp :D) -3- Do not use voice programs if you play in a group. sounds silly, but makes the game way more intresting, when you have to be careful talking and stuff, may needs improvement like a radio for group chat, and noise reduction by range for the direct com. -4- play with the music turned on. Survivor: -1- try to group up with other survivors, so you can share and play together, making life easier. you can also just meet for a time and then split again, you don't need to use external voip, the ingame fits it fine. -2- you should only attack players when they are shooting/pointing there weapon at you or injure your personal space (when they're in melee/backpack) range, and refuse to stop their actions. -----2.1- sometimes you think sbd. wants to kill you but he's just there for loot etc. or accidentally gives you a reason to defend so, check twice before you're really risking to loose your morality -----2.2- free the little fishes, if sbd. with an axe tries to get you or sbd. wants to steal from your bag, just ensure they're no danger and force them to give your stuff back/stop attacking you, they might change there mind on people and the game, if they see, that not evrybody is a paranoid scavenger. -----2.3- let people alive, if you have to shoot, try to shoot them unconscious, bandage their wounds scavenge them and let them lie there, it will change their mind on players and the way they play -3- be warm hearted, help people, when they need your help and it's save to help them, they mostly will not shoot you in the back afterwards. Bandit: -1- Do not kill for fun! ,it's oviously dump, and doesn't help anybody, shooting at new spawned players don't get you balls. -----1.1- Rob instead of kill, you're a bandit because of the loot, not because you want to murder. -----1.2- estimate whether it's worth to rob/kill sbd. before you engage him. -----1.3- shooting sbd. unconscious is enough to get his loot with minimalized risk. -2- You can still be a nice guy, just because you're robbing it doesn't mean you can let the people keep a minimum of stuff or help underlootet persons. -3- Rob at your niveau, robbing the beans out of a one hour old player in zub castle, while carryng an high military weapon is dump. again estimate first whether it's worth to rob or not. -4- Don't destroy camps or vehicles, if you got what you wanted/needed than it's fine and you can leave instead of destroying evrything, if some people got a vehicle you wanted to have you should not destroy it just because, they have it and you don't,instead try to investigate their camp and steal what you want. -----4.1- if you're in a fight with the owner of the camp you can destroy it, if it really minimalize the risk, of revenge. -5- Respect your victims, it's obvious. they are player, having a hard time in this game, you should show them the respect you should give to evryone ingame as well as in the real life -----5.1- if you have to kill them, and they're already unconscious you should tell them why you had to do it, and share the moment of death with them, it is an impressive experience! So that's basically what i think is a good player codex for dayZ. If you have any additions corrections, or want to have a detailed explanation for a point, feel free to comment but explain your thoughts.

Hi guys, Im MrSnowman/Sunnybones from Game/Teamspeak. Let me clarify somethings that have to do with what both sides are asking for, even if the things I must clarify have no benefit towards anyone. A. Hi Map, I did not Tell you lithium was on the server. Do not lie and twist what fucken actually happened because I have it actually all recorded on my stream. I confirmed that Lithium had logged in recently onto your server when you told me that you had heard he was on your server and asked me what I thought of it. I did not tell you He was here. B. I see you are letting him talk in teamspeak. Thats great, however the forums say that admins have to show proof of ban. We cannot, as acezor said on the First page on this thread, provide proof that one is innocent as we the player do not have "Fraps" (I dont even have fraps because you need to pay for it) on at all times. Admins however DO get logs of players and they Do have the proof, so please by all means provide proof. C. Hi Kyle, We should raid the NW airbase later. Why does Lithium want to play here? Because I'm his buddy and he wants to play with his buddy. Why do I want to play here? my camps here. These things are irrelevant to this thread, so please do not bring them up. D. Hey map again, as you can see in the forums, Lithium is banned from the server. Now, I don't know why you want to "ask him into teamspeak" to resolve the situation when you are clearly the cause of a part of the situation. Sure Lithium may be a hacker, and banned globally, which he is not, however you do not have the proof, or have not shown enough proof, to ban him and keep him banned. Instead of following by the rules that you need proof of someone hacking, you have simply just let him stay banned and say "lets talk it out", therefore proving he's What? Oh yeah still banned. E. I see you want his GUID to check the "ban list"! Well, you told me while i was Streaming that he was on the banlist because you checked and his name, Lithium, was on the list. You then proceeded to say, that he must be globally banned because his character name was on the list. When I asked how that works b/c there could be multiple lithiums, you proceeded to say it was his guid that was banned. When i asked you what it was, you said you Did not know what it was. This is all on my stream, so Check it out sometime, and try not to Lie about the things you say. F. "Besides I found Mr.Snowmans camp and raided it with Blue Blur, Whyte, Icey and a few others. There is nothing left. Having a working heli gives us a huge advantage on spotting camps flying low. Im pretty sure any camp not our own has been pillaged." Cool story bro. Idc because i TOLD YOU WHERE IT WAS. Do you remember when I said "oh its north of stary next to Prud Pond?" Well your entire clan knows where it was. So congrats on finding a hidden camp in which I informed you of. Oh yeah, I didnt know admins were allowed to restart servers in order to acquire vehicles back. I dont have this on my stream, but I do have a bandicam video(?) Of you saying that you guys crashed your helicopter and that you'd restart the server (followed by the ingame restart) to get it back. But this isnt the point and case of this thread, so yeah. G. I see you are saying that you are highly praised as an admin on minecraft. What relevance is that to this game and thread? We are not saying you are a bad admin. We are saying that you misbanned this retard of a player, Lithium. Why are you trying to brifocusinng up things that have no relevance instead of focusing on the point? H. "The reason why you were banned is because we believe you or your friend were ESP hacking. Along with script killing Cik." Sup Icey, how're you. How were they esp hacking? The reason why we have this thread is to prove that either A. they did not esp hack to kill cik, or B. they did not kill cik. The esp hacking can only be shown via logs, which have not been shown. As of late, i've noticed that all of your crying about dying have involved "hackers" killing you. Every single time you guys have died at your camp, which is almost the easiest camp to find in the game, has involved "oh somebody has hacked and killed me". Now the only honorable word that I've seen from is from Cik, as he's the only one I've currently seen "hack killed". Im sorry to say this Icey, but your post is filled with assumptions that are made via your own creation. Assumptions with no basis (how do you know how this certain player plays) have no place in a thread seeking truth. I. At the moment, It is the entire Desolation clan, which by the way is acting under the word of Map, against one player. If you have nothing useful to contribute to the arguement, such as Proof, then you should refraining from posting. I dont understand why you're bashing a player who is trying to appeal a wrongful(to him) ban. In addition to this, you guys are not providing anything solid, but just assumptions based on what you heard. Only Cik, Map, Lithium, and Tank, were on thes erver at the time, so its cik and maps word against Lithium (as tank is completely fine with not playing on the server). So instead of quoting your version of what happened, let it be handled by the parties involved. I had to make a fucken forum account just to clear up these misunderstandings. Through these 3 pages of Desolation members, whom I like by the way so dont get any fucken retarded bias assumptions, bashing Lithium, there has yet to be Any Hard Evidence posted on this thread showing the reason for Lithiums ban. Instead, I have seen Nasir say "Lithium isnt banned", only to say he is in the next post for hacking, Kyle and Icey, who I personally think are cool guys, add in insults and random "facts" about what happen instead of pushing the topic along, and other random players posting their opinions about the subject at matter with Nasir and desolation members insulting them. Instead of all this, why not just post the fucken logs so we can get on with our lives? As of now, I dont give a fuck what happens to Lithium because he has caused enough troubles. However it is the responsibility of the Admin to provide some sort of evidence may it be logs or video that Lithium was cheating to end this. Otherwise at this point in time, Lithium is innocent. Map, Post the logs. Showing your praise on other servers doesnt mean shit when you're not following the rules.