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So I just logged on to this server outside of cherno, and I saw a jeep driving by, which stopped. Two guys get out and start moving slowly into the city. I figure it's my lucky day, run up behind them and hop into their jeep and start driving off. 30 seconds later after getting in the jeep: http://i48.tinypic.com/34q7fkk.jpg Complete admin abuse. Don't want your vehicles taken, don't park them out in an open field without guarding them, then kick the person who capitalizes on it. My friend who was also on the server nearby, heard him talking ingame using the voice chat raging. Can have him post here as well to verify this occurred.

Thanks for the fast replies guys. :) So if we have a vehicle, and we put it somewhere where no one finds it (I know that place doesnt exist but for the question purposes). Save it and log off. If the server restarts properly. not session lost or disconneced. Would it stay? Or is it simply a case of Server on, Vehicle there. Server off, Vehicle gone. Also, If you save a Vehicle and the server disconnected. Does the vehicle return to spawn but with all the loot in? Just wondering how all these clans hoard all these vehicles, but I can't get my truck to stay put! >:(

works for me most of the time, if i have time to scan the ground that is. same about tents/vehicles, if they are full, any items you put in will randomly drop around the tent.

Is there anyway to keep a vehicle in a place when the server restarts / disconnects? Not really. Just hope for the best. It varies sometimes. What does saving a vehicle actually do? Saves the items inside. Do some servers have more vehicles than others (We've been on some and found a good few v.quickly, been on others and found nothing) No, servers that don't have fresh spawned vehicles either have people hording or they are gone. Any other advice on vehicle related matters? You won't have it for long unless you have constant cover on it. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Apologies If I'm regurgitating said Ideas....:) Underground fort building is a great idea and Evil Genius was a great game. I also loved Sim City and Age Of Empires too. My suggestion is to combine all these elements into DayZ and create the most fucking awesome online, persistent, First person, team based RTS\FPS ever. Possibly the first of its kind. Here's my thoughts on some details. So you start playing DayZ. You run around collect some gear, "survive", shoot some shit...then what? You join up with or form a group, run around collect gear shoot shit...then what? Well hopefully (soon) you build an underground base with security systems and agriculture systems. You defend it, collect gear, shoot shit, attack other guys fort....then what? I feel DayZ could be turned into absolutely the coolest fucking game ever made by taking this fort building\resource management to the next level. First Thing...A clan\friend\family system will need to be integrated into the game. This data can be collected and used to implement the following sort of thing. 1. Put a structure or object into the world that when captured (and while held) grants advanced fort\city\resource management mechanics to the clan controlling it. Like a giant, persistent game of Capture the flag. a. The normal underground fort building mechanics would still be there for ALL players. But to the clan holding the "flag" (maybe a government building or something like that) To the clan holding the "flag" more advanced RTS City management option become available. Things like....smelting and forging (ammo & vehicle parts manufacturing), infrastructure (power grid, and plumbing for clean water) Advanced agriculture options. Advanced skins and vehicles (police and emergency services) The possibilities are great. Take the bits that can fit into this context From games like Sim City, Age Of Empires, or any other cool RTS games. b. The World Is Theirs...If the clan is capable they are free to expand their area of control as far as they can. Of course other players\clans are free to attack, resist infiltrate, subvert or use any means to wrest control away and into their own clans hands. Or Alliances can be made (and betrayed :) woohoo). So much possible fun. c. Ruling clan or clans (maybe there's more than one "flag" to be captured) can still do what They want. Terrorize with death squads, oppress and horde or... Provide a "safe area" for social interactions and trading, medical services, ect... I think this has lots of possibilities and will never get boring. The ruling clan or clans are busy managing their power and fending off attackers. While the rest of us can plan revolts, form alliances, and build secret underground base camps from where we plan to overthrow of government. Blood feuds will form, hatred and Jealousy's fester. Dynasty's may come to power. Uprisings, rebellions, sabotage & espionage, betrayal..... All Out War!!! Oh yeah, and lets not forget on top of it all Zombies & and infections that are an actual threat. ///////////////////////////// '/////////// /////////////////////////////// Now I have a second suggestion which I'll mention but not go into details about in this thread. It has to do with the morality\humanity mechanic. I know this is a hot topic but I feel it's important to the game. First of all, lets face it....this a game so death will never have any meaning. I'll just go refill my coffee and start again. It doesn't matter. But I think murdering SHOULD matter. Murder is a serious action and it has social and personal consequences. I think it would be cool to somehow code this into the game. The "humanity" mechanic. It COULD add a new level of authenticity and immersion. While it maybe less labor intensive to implement, this is a much more complicated mechanic than "Empire building" and it has been discussed ad nauseam. But it's something Rocket is trying to Work out so I'll give my suggestion and try to keep it constructive. I will write it and post it in a separate thread. //////////////////////////////// //////////////////////////////////// If you like the Ruling Clans idea please respond, make improvements and bump this so it maybe gets seen by someone who can try and make it happen :)

Hi mate, Wow, I am feeling a bit amazed at the moment because you seem to be able to label everyone as a hacker and cheat while displaying all the haulmarks of one yourself. I have just joined this forum to express my opinion and dismay with your comments, poor detective skills and just plain stupidity. First point. I am one of 10 guys that have set that camp up over a period of about a month. This was not a fun part of the game but it was required as our last base was compromised and we moved. I only recently found out it was a heli respawn point and was about to start moving locations. All that gear has taken 10 guys a month to accumulate from farming the NWAF and heli crash points. We also have found vehicles loaded with heaps of stuff such as the NVG's which we obviously kept. I can assure you I had spend days looking through the scope at the NWAF without even firing a shot guarding the guys who were farming. We were dedicated and it payed off. I had even noticed we had some extra tents down near the town so I was happy to share as the island as our gear was always there and a "truce" seemed to be in place. Second Point. Well done for finding the spot if you found it without cheating. Credit were credit is due but i cannot understand why you would destroy all that loot? Just take what you need and then when you come back, you might be able to get a resupply. I have never destroyed another camp as that is just poor logisitics mate and you loose your advantage. That is/was a rookie error. As for the camp respawning, don't know about that but they have always had gear in them when I looked. Maybe a server reset caused it to come back. Don't get me wrong, I am pissed right now but we can farm again and we still have guys with gear who can help out. Third Point. While I was on the island the other day my friend and i were shot at out of the blue and then the attacker ALT F4'd when we countered. Luckily the were shit shots. From that point on I was over near the light house to cover our guys on this side of the island while the were clearing the town. Low and behold, through my sight picture I saw some bloke spawn in and shoot my mate in the back. I had an ACOG (from the NWAF) and shot him multipule times (four hits to be precise) then he logged out. As this server has User names I notified the Admins who did NOT ban him much to my dissapointment. I hope that wasn't your buddy as he is just the sort of player that grits my shit. Talking all tough on team speak, Hopping in and out then running away when he gets slapped. That bitch play is just shit house and shows how pathetic you guys are for doing it. "Hard core gamers" who fucking cry when shot at after hopping in and out are shit, they bring the game down and have effectively killed this mod off IMO. Just as bad as the hackers to be honest. Fourth Point. As I previously stated, I was only aware of the Heli spawn point recently. I first realised when we found a heli on the island. We promptly attemped to fly it and crashed into the trees. We don't have a helecopter and did not assult you with one. If you haven't noticed, the hackers are everywhere and by the look of if, that dick stain "obvioushacker" on the forum was one of them. Trust me, nothing says hacker like getting a boat land on your head in Zeleno. Funny but extremely annoying the first time, out right frustrating. I was also dropped from 50 feets three in a row about 10 minutes apart and teleported to a debeg forest island without any equipment with several other guys in the last week on the server and i wish the server could ban the lot of them. We couldn't even kill ourselves on the island, do you know how shit that is! So in summary, well done on finding our shit, we should have moved earlier. I still think you are stupid for killing it off and the most important one......... GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE SPROOKING SHIT YOU ARSE CLOWN! Stop blaming the admins for trying to make there servers playerable for players, not dickwads and hackers. Off my soap box now.

I swear, at least once an hour we will fight either someone who is invincible to any gunshots, someone who is teleporting, someone who spawns several vehicles or guns. In US 777 5 minutes ago, a player named Danny in a soldier uniform and a helmet teleported to my friend and shot him, im walking and look behind me and hes there too with a constant sound of someone fixing a car or removing a hedgehog. He shoots me after talking in chat then teleports to another one of my group and is kinda running around him now telling him to visit his "camp." Come on, get a better Anti-Hack detection *cough* VAC *cough*

Here is the actual facts, these admins use the tent dupe exploit, its obvious, no amount of farming would ever net the kind of things that he said there were, also yea you do use the server restart bug for vehicles, a full AS50 clip would take it down no problem, not to mention when it wasnt flying, you dont have to admit it, because that would be dumb, but dont fight the fact that you are abusing bugs for your own gain. thats pathetic.

Okay, past experience of this game so far I can sum up in a few sentences. Fun time exploring and finding guns and items to survive. Meeting people to team up with, or to kill. Hackers kill me or destroy everything I've attempted to obtain and keep. Please, I am honestly sick and tired of people getting HACKED maps showing my tents, turning on GOD MODE, becoming INVISIBLE, SPAWNING items and CARS. Honestly, the bugs in the game aren't the problem, I've played for a little bit over a month now. I never once had a slight feeling towards a glitch in the game, maybe yeah my gun not spawning in my hands when I log into a server would make me a little upset. But when someone kills me, after I shoot them SEVERAL times in the head, and they walk at me, and talk and say HaHa, then kill me... makes me a little upset. Or when I get teleported to BFE and a message shows up WELCOME TO THE THUNDER DOME, and all this gear that SHOULDN'T be there is just handed to people just to later die. And I just love how some people can locate via name tags showing up on their screen with their hacks, displaying Names, Vehicles, and more things that shouldn't be their. Hackers are everywhere, in every game, but when it feels like 50% of the entire community is hacking, I think its a problem. I'm not mad. I'm concerned.

http://youtu.be/jJs3YaamwA0 US 1054 Time: 2300 CST Aug 6th 2012 Telporting/Spawning vehicles(Video shows Bike appearing) With admins online these guys (not sure of usernames due to not being able to see them) were teleporting around for a few hours in some giant military truck either running people over or shooting them. My first encounter was the "Get on the ground blah blah" then they blew me to the moon with some kind of giant explosion. I soon after re-spawned and instantly was teleported back to my body and they gave me an AS50 because they wanted to help. After this I ran down the beach and spotted a city of vehicles and they came running towards me at this point and that is when I thought to tab out and turn Fraps on. Don't really care they are mad and killed a few certain people because of having to round their vehicles back up all the time, we do not miss the gear or whatever, but this instant appearing stuff and teleporting around? C'mon. They also must have some kind of radar as you could just spawn in and here they come either teleporting to you... or driving straight to your position no matter where or how far away it was from the last spawn point.

admins have tools that allow them to see everything. Obviosly it's not a map that you can zoom in and what not, it's just writting. But all the information is there. I was playing in a server and the admin was talking on teamspeak. He said "nice mk48 and m107, but isn't that too much firepower for one person?" He also knew exactly where I was, he knew I had the m107 in my bag, all in a pitch black night where the m107 doesn't leave the bag. He also told us how vehicles were destroyed and how people died. He told us the bus was destroyed by the M203 for example, and that my friend died to a bizon.

Actually I'm in a clan and I'll damn well tell you all our shit isn't legit. But...let me clarify, its not that we have a bunch of hacked vehicles and weapons that we shouldn't have...its the fucking tents. We put shit in our tents, we log out, we log back in and we've still got our shit, but the shit is in the tent too. Now while I'm sure some people do this with the full intent of exploiting it...all I can say is the dupes my clan has are because of the bug ass state of this alpha. I duped my crap once changing into a camo suit we found. I took off my backpack and put it in my tent, the camo suit put a backpack on me and it had all the crap I had in my backpack that I put in the tent. Pulled the backpack out of the tent and there were copies of everything in it. I wasn't doing this on purpose its just what happened.

Oh and I've never met a server admin without a vehicle. Crazy coincidence that admins always have vehicles in their server although they could never get a vehicle in a server not hosted by them. I sure hope we get official servers in standalone..

Hey guys, I'm a huge fan of DayZ, have logged hundreds of hours on the mod and am one of the admins of SouthCoastBeanWars.com and just wanted to give my viewpoint on what the biggest problems with DayZ are at the moment. Obviously yes, the game is in alpha and I am not complaining, merely giving my viewpoint to try and help the game get past these issues. Hacking and duping - The absolute biggest problem right now is that hacking and duping is running rampant across the entire game. At any given point in time I find that the majority of ANZ, NZ and AU servers that I play on are either in the process of being hacked or is broken from being nuked, thunderdomed, carpet bombed, etc. Sadly, the reason hacking is so prevalent in DayZ as I understand it lies at the very core of the game engine so it really looks like this won't be fixed until the game is standalone. Rocket has spoken many times about how DayZ has a finite lifespan as a mod and me and my friends keep thinking that well perhaps DayZ has reached the end of that lifespan.. the game is nigh unplayable in any serious capacity at the moment due to hacking. Loot inflation - This no doubt stems from hacking and duping but also, in a much lesser way stems from there being no way to take loot out of circulation other than people dying in vehicles out in the middle of nowhere/zombies (Pretty rare if the player is experienced). This is something I expressed concern with a month or so into the alpha and now look at the game.. there is so many pairs of night vision, 50 calibre sniper rifles, thermal L85s and so on that I find more tents filled with those items than I do things like lee enfields and CZ550's. Even if hacking and duping was fixed tomorrow and a database wipe happened, if the mod was played for a year by everyone at the end of that year we would have the same problem we have now with the highest tier military loot being EVERYWHERE.. there needs to be some way to take this stuff out of circulation. Lack of "endgame" - This is something Rocket has already said he is working on, things like base building and the like but I have to ask is that even enough. At the moment once people are geared up there is almost nothing to do besides hunt other players.. Sure, there are other little distractions like base hunting, filling up your tents with loot, collecting vehicles and such but that all gets old really quickly.. even with base building like Rocket has said he is working on, will that really be enough? People are just going to get bored once they have a near perfect base and will start once again, hunting people.. I'm not really sure what the solution here is and it would depend on what kind of game you want DayZ to be. The way vehicles are handled - This is coming from someone who had a clan that hoarded almost every single vehicle across multiple servers - the way vehicles are handled at the moment is terrible, what is more disappointing is that at least to me, this seems like one part of the game Rocket has stopped developing, at least for now. What I feel would be much funner is if vehicles were no longer able to store loot (To avoid them becoming glorified loot storage, sitting out in a bush somewhere) and were reset perhaps more often than every 7 days.. I'm not sure how often would be acceptable but I feel like 7 days is too long. Perhaps 48 or 72 hours? I also think it would be great if the amount of vehicles were greatly increased where as fuel should be made incredibly rare - Why would people want 10 different vehicles if they can barely scrape by the fuel for one? Once again, to try and avoid the RDF trying to string me up and beat me with blunt objects, this is merely my thoughts on the issues DayZ currently has which I am sure will be greatly improved upon if not completely resolved by the time DayZ is a fully released standalone game. That will happen a lot quicker if we give good feedback :)

I can't believe I'm validating this as an idea by replying. As an idea, this is fine. As anything else, it completely sucks. I don't want to flame you, but I'm struggling to resist. Some reasons of the top of my head You talk about a smart business decision, but Dayz is currently yet to make any of it's own money. It may be driving ARMA II sales, but none of the team is seeing a cent of that. The developers are yet to develop a PC version. Currently it's an Alpha mod, a console port is unthinkable at the moment. ARMA engine was never designed to be ported, it's reliant on processing power and is intensive on computer resources compared to other games of it's generation. This is a simulation, consoles are simply not designed for this type of game. Even something as simple and easy as the sims didn't have an impact on consoles, console consumers do not want to play this type of game on console. The ARMA II engine and teams have no experience with console mods. An entirely new team would need to be created, this requires a huge investment. Mouse > Controller. Mouses offer faster, more accurate responses to the human hand. This is yet to be solved in any FPS, the only way around this is console servers and PC servers, that would mean a new hive set up just for consoles. So many buttons, Arma II is not your standard FPS. Choppers for starters are very technical to fly and is closer to simulation flying then the BF choppers. You seem to have forgotten about vehicles, scoping, rangefinding, rolling, inventory, map/gps communication channels ect. This is not a standard FPS, it requires more buttons than you think. New Console generation looming: You said it yourself, the timing isn't right to release a game. The developers most likely have no contacts to get access to the new generation hardware and therefor can't design the game until the specs and set up is known. If you can solve the issues above, you should immediately leave the forums and go make your millions. I would gladly eat my own words to see better gaming. Until then, I'm sorry to shoot you down so hard as you clearly are enthusiastic about this game

Dude, I learned a lesson . NEVER for any reason play in a server with >3/4 of capacity . I have a server to play with my friends, we have found maaaany legit loot. L8, n.v, NEVER saw a hacker... GREAT. And the server if from a great clan, we already stolen a Ural with great loot and they just accepted it, and thread us, that they will find it. So, find a good server(I have 2 with vehicles and camp) and play it. These super populated servers is a crap, or you will see noobs or a bunch of kiddes. Don't lose your time....

That's precisely why hackers have bypasses, the effect of which is that most scripts don't show up in the logs. Even if you are an extremely diligent admin, and even if you know what you should be looking for, chances are you can only ban people who spawned vehicles or nuked servers. Although admins can track players' movement on a server and detect teleportation, it's not always the hacker who teleports, sometimes it's an Innocent player being teleported by the hacker. You are making the solution sound too simple. Most admins literally have very little they can do.

Guess it was time i created an account and gave some feedback after now playing this game for 2 weeks solid, expecially after last nights encounter with hack / hackers? Having survived for 4 days straight racking up over 1600 zed kills and only 1 murder in self defence, me and my 6 freinds who also were online and ingame on same server were minding our own business up at the NEAS when suddenly one by one within a time frame of 3 seconds were dead, sniped with no sound of any rifle being fired, naturaly we were upset for we are all freindly players willing to help out strangers, we like to share those stories of how we helped others round a camp fire while eating some beans or unfortunate live stock we had killed and gutted. All of my freinds whom now had to start from scratch decided to switch to another server now that some tool decided to play terrorist, but i stayed, i decided to attempt making a run back upto the NEAS to see if could scavenge some equipment back, as i got 3/4 of the way up i noticed the winchester i had found and carrying in hand suddenly turned into a brittish anti material rifle, the most powerfull sniper rifle in the game, plus my backpack turned into the best backpack in the game, it was a huge WTF moment, i stopped to see what was inside the backpack, it was loaded with goodies, a ghilli suit, a m16 with the red dot open scope and silencer attached, had also NVG and range finder binocular + other goodies etc, but then suddently everyone on the server died, i was still in a team voice chat with my buddies who were on other servers being told the same thing was happening to them? and that all the players on that server were killed, almost simutanously did all the players on the server i was on & the players of the server they were on were wiped out? But what if some of the players who had recieved these goodies decided to abort out of the game? taking with them all the equipment? before like all the rest, were killed? i wonder how many out there are now equiped to the teeth and survived the oncoming server wide slay by aborting out? perhaps a system wide wipe of all players listed in the main hive database is required? So how is this possible i wonder? who could possibly have this kind of ability? has someone in the DayZ development team gone rouge and thrown a hissy fit? would the dayZ development team want there player base / betta testers to be treated in such a manner? my opinion of this matter is that its cruel concidering how some of us players have spent days trying to build up our survivor only to be hacked by some douch bag to death through the use of someone cheating or abusing there privelages. The graphic glitch i can accept and work around while still hoping a patchfix comes through soon (Note: i did read through a bug reporting thread about this issue, some 14 pages of comments but not 1 reply from one of the DayZ team to reasure the players confidence its being looked into) The battleEye script description #55 involving vehicles i can accept and continue on playing holding onto hope a fix will come. But this kind of abuse and cheating as mentioned above i refuse to accept, for me its the straw that broke the camels back. In another thread players were mentioning how this has cost them money while others response to that its a free mod, yes its a free mod, but perhaps those players are like me and were suguested this game by a friend? i am not interested in playing Arma2, i baught the Arma2 combined operations souly to play DayZ, i enjoy playing games that consist of surviving zombie appocolypse's, Thats my 2 cents, like it or not, take it or leave it, lots of Pro's & Con's with this game, one must expect critisism and praise, its has great potential, but looks to have many loop holes, this is just my own opinion tho also shared by those i have spoken with, i might add in that im 34yrs of age and have been gaming since i could walk down to the local arcade parlor and play a pinball machine or arcade game for just 20 cents, my feedback is usually welcomed when playing either L4D2 or KillingFloor, i guess thats why i was made one of the head admins on 2 of the most successful modded servers for both game servers called mgftw<-L4D2 & IGC-International Gaming Comunity<-KillingFloor. I understand this is still in the Beta stages, it sure is helping sell copies of Arma2 im certain, still some bugs needing to be weeded out as im also sure the DayZ dev team is aware of, for example the fact that ghilli suits or camo clothes allow the player to duplicate backpacks, ok this post tho its my 1st since only created this account just moments ago is probably long enough, so ill leave it there and check back in to see if caught any attention, it might take a couple days for me to get over last nights incident and persist on with enjoying this game due to its zombie surviving realism, it is the best zombie appocolypse simulation i have played.

Before my death a couple of days ago, I had what I would say is pretty much the most powerful and capable combination that's possible. In my opinion at least. Primary was the L85 of course. In my Backpack, an AS50, and the Mk48 Machine gun. My Side arm was an M9 SD. I perfectly balanced out ammo so that I always had enough for whatever I would encounter, even carrying one M107 mag and one AS50 mag, so I could use the 10xM107 on players, and the 5xAS50 on vehicles. A couple of bottles, cooked meat, blood bag, morphine, epi pen and painkillers, and I'm set. Obviously, every tool in the game as well. Couple this with my Ghillie, Rangefinder and NVGs, I honestly don't think I could have a better setup. Until some guy with thermal sees me in a bush and puts AS 50 through my face. Little disappointing, but it's always going to happen at some point, you accept it. I could regain the kit in a couple of hours by just running around the West and North areas of the map and raiding tents, so I'm not too bothered. I've taken this opportunity to try that certain other map, and I'm enjoying that right now.

on my server no vehicles has spawn within 24 hours

Admins have access to RPT logs, sorry. People's items and locations, and vehicles items and locations are in these logs. Unfortunetly for you, you will have to put your trust into the admin on the server you choose to play on. I personally have no interest in taking everybodys vehicles. I love DayZ. My clan decided to rent a server since we could not find any server living up to our standards. Just because i'm an admin now, doesn't mean I'm interested in knowing where everything is. I play to play the game, but that's me. It's way more fun to find a camp/vehicle accidentally. Can't speak for OP though. Sounds like an admin who wants all the vehicles.

Hey all, my friend and I were scrounging for good loot at north eastern airfield last night and we came across two ATV's sitting in the middle of the runway. We loaded both vehicles with stuff and started to drive further north to hide them, that's when the funny stuff happened. We started taking fire from a silenced weapon as we drove, " all I could hear was the suppressed firing and the bullets bouncing off the atv. I hightailed it back to the airstrip but the shots kept coming from behind me almost as if the unknown gunner was teleporting and following me? I honked my horn in victory as I rode past the airfield to freedom but all of a sudden my character had a broken leg was in shock and fell off the ATV and I heard a high pitched ringing noise. I then died shortly after. I don't know what happened exactly but I think this person might have used an exploit to kill me. I don't know if they were the server owners or just some script kids being dicks but this is quite silly. I had A LOT of gear that took about a week to collect and it was all gone in an instant. To be honest, I probably won't be playing DayZ much anymore because, SURPRISE! it's not the first time I've died under questionable circumstances. Game's in alpha, devs still testing stuff, I get it... but hey, all I'm saying is the hacking is out of control and its making me regret spending the money to buy ARMA II. I know posts like mine have been seen like a million times on this forum but I'm done until something a little more polished comes out and I will be debating ARMA III since the anti-cheat system in these games do more harm than good. I'm not a programmer and I don't know scripting but you would think all this money Bohemia interactive is making from DayZ would make them consider sitting down and doing something on the rampant cheating. This game is fun but I get the feeling nobody cares. Peace and back now to Battlefield III...

dude the last one with you sitting down next to the vehicles!! I lost it! take my beans!!

This game allows flat out murdering people, so yes, vehicle loss is part of the game. Vehicles have no owners, only takers.

You were tracking user behaviour ??, because thats what server admins do dont they... Why are you looking for vehicles ? I thought that radar tool was banned ?, if not then it should be. Not only do we have to contend with bandits and hackers but now admins that have full access to our tents and vehicles ?? Sigh..