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It is a real shame what is going on with hackers. I have played my last couple of games in a private server(s) and haven't notice any issues, well I haven't been nuked or transported, not yet anyway. But to answer your question Azrail, no I don't think there is a magic wand that makes hacks and hackers disappear. But I do think options need to be explored to remedy the situation as much as possible as soon as possible. And it isn't just hacking that drives me up a wall, it's the ghosting, the disconnecting to avoid death etc etc. There is a broad spectrum of things that are making it a challenge ( not in a good way) to enjoy the game/testing. I would really luck to play the mod and be able to provide worthwhile feedback, "he this isn't working, how about adding this" etc etc etc. As it stands now I either have issues with updating and getting into games, or when I do get into a game I am either nuked, transported, or ghosted. Whether or not some people want to admit it, this is dictating the flow of the game and its overall progress. It is an alpha yes, but in order for it to progress past the alpha stage there needs to be, well, progression. Bear traps and dogs are not crucial for game development in my humble opinion. Being able to play the game and give constructive feedback is.

oh yeah man, i just meant that my buddy and i were probably the ones who got them so fired up as to do that. they tried sneaking up on the hill where fire was coming from (but i was relocating after kills) they tried ghosting me (but got killed and looted) so their last resort was to hack the server. pretty sad. take your beatings like a man.

I agree 100%, but the problem is people are already accustom to just leaving the game and coming back in to reposition and shoot whoever had them at gunpoint. They do it because they can get away with it. Keep in mind this is still a Alpha, and a mod to another game, exploits like that won't be fixed until it's a standalone game or in the end of alpha, early beta. (Although I hear they are working on it right now.) None the less I would do this if they have something I want, if not I let them be, and if they come to close I blast them. But until this exploit is fixed, people will not bring someone to gun point nor will they stop ghosting. You also have to put into consideration that some people (Not smart ones imo) play the game with no volume, or ignore the chat entirely, so if you tell a guy to put a gun down or type it in chat that person would pay no mind and become a possible threat. But like I said, this will not happen until exploits are gone. I honestly don't think people care anymore also due to the fact that you do not have a face to show your humanity anymore, humanity is still there, but if it's nonexistent to the eye it's nonexistent entirely.

I only have the fraps of me firing on you. I stopped it after i entered the forest and saw you were gone. And like i said, the bike appeared on the map where i last saw it right?? Then why were you NEXT to the bike when i turned and faced you when you shot me in the head? Also, one my clan mates who plays on the server also says he notices you logging on and off constantly whenever he see yous on the server. DC much? getting rid of those zombies huh? Or you DCing on players still? Tyler dont be a troll tard. I dont care that i died. I care that pvp is gone to shit due to people abusing DC and ghosting. Big difference. I dont care what people believe all i know is what i saw with my own eyes and that is Hellspawn next to a bike behind a tree when i turned and faced him. I wouldnt put it past people to logout for 5 minutes and then log back in thinking someones moved on. He's already shown he's a tard for not taking higher quality weapons over a lee enfield.

And to you sir I simply say idk why you think you're hot shit? Ghosting is a complete fail in my book especially after the fact that it took you o say.... ten minutes to kill us ocne u ghosted in so thanks for the level palying field nub =) Have fun exploiting the game =)

Yeah totally fix the fucking ghosting piece of shit. Seriously now by just writing this I am pissed off. Me and a friend were camping up on a building because 4 people were below us and had already killed our friend. We told them to come up and shit if they wanted a fucking war. Two of them came up the ladder boom dead, one sniper started to shoot and broke my leg, my friend took him out with his as50 then the last one with a fucking 1911 went onto another server climbed up the mother fucking ladder, went back to our server shot my friend from behind quit and ran to the ladder came behind me while I was at my friends body. Ghosting piece of shit, this need a fix right now, ban people that presses alt + f4 and make a timer of 15 seconds for a abort. Fixed.

Can't really make a fort yet with server ghosting still being a problem. Perhaps in the future when people can't use exploits to gain a upper hand.

The only problem with your story is where you killed me is where the bike was parked. Not that extreme distance you're showing. I did not run that far south out of those woods and i saw the bike showing up on my map where you have it listed where i died. So please explain to me why there was a bike right next to the tree you were behind near where i died hmmm? Also i dont buy the "server admin" claiming that the logs said he didn't DC. Considering Hellspawn and him replied to this thread he is most likely covering up for his buddy hellspawn. also i dont give a crap about gear. i have 4 more SAWS in my tent with ammo. I care that people bitch out of PvP thru DC or Ghosting. Also yall try hitting a target going 50km an hour at 250-300m while kneeling since the grass is long in the field and blocks your aim and getting kickback from the SAW. i actually have that part frapsed. Like i said though, I checked the area around the bike thoroughly (the place where i died where the bike actually was). Also what kind of fool are you to not drop the enfield and take either my saw or m107? The only thing fabricated here is your family circus map.

I thought how awesome it would be if there was a certain set amount of players inside of a city at a time, Zombies would cease to spawn after they've been killed allowing squads and gangs to control spawn locations and allow the start of server societies and trade. I think trade is something that needs to be implemented some how. It basically means that a currency would have to be implemented. Obviously, I don't know what would count for currency.. maybe zombies could have money of them possibly but there really isn't a GOOD way to implement a currency with the current structure. Ghosting and Alt-F4 would ruin any chance for societies to exist in this game. As soon as those are fixed I am sure we will see something come out of this. And the only way to fix Ghosting would be to have everyone re spawn back at the coast when they log out... but again, I can see this being exploited as well.

24L4N Can you do this post first please? Official DE102 EU8 server thread. Global information: Status: Online Hosted by =Olut= Server Name: DE102 EU8 ASG Server Slots: 40 Vehicles: Yes Version: 1.62.95208 - Beta Required Day Z Version: 1.7.2.3 Settings: Difficulty: Veteran 3rd Person View: On Auto Aim: Off Auto Spot: Off Players on Map: Off Crosshair: Off Tracers: Off Death Messages: On In-Game Voice: On (Direct VoIP only) Max Ping: 100ms Rules: No Ghosting/Death Dodging No item duplications No DC in PvP You are welcome to place here any suggestion or complaints and another information about server

Thank you for a reply. First of all this is not bannable. You can't even kick from server for that. Second of all, can you at-least provide any evidence? Like video? Why I ask for it - because I never quit PvP, unless second person starts ghosting. And please remove ban.

I'm not going to lie.. U.B.C.S has intrigued me quite a bit. One: Because I mean come on... I'm probably one of the biggest nuts there is when it comes to Resident Evil. Respecially 1, 2, 3, CV and REMAKE. I've seen some videos of these guys operate and any clan that revolves themselves around the umbrella corporation is cool in my book. Now, anyway... If you guys have room for another player, whose been playing this game for a month, knows exactly what there doing, is definitely going to raise an eyebrow as far as my interest goes. I'm not going to get my hopes up, but I just want to let you guys know about me. 1. 26 years old. Mature. Respectful. Friendly. Also loves to joke around, and bust each others balls. I've been playing this game for two months now. I've gotten pretty much everything I need minus a rangefinder (Coyote, AS-50, M4A1 CCO SD, 1911, NVGs,) and I know my ins and outs around this map. I'm a bandit, but I won't always shoot on sight if someone makes there presence known that they are friendly and would rather go on their merry way. I'd never think about pulling the hammer on those guys... but what I'm looking for is a tight knit community of mature gamers who love to have fun. Whether it's raiding, owning up the airfrield, playing tactical, getting the best gear possible, goofing off and everything else... I'm all for it. I'm also interested because these guys seem to be Resident Evil fans which makes them awesome in my book. Now, I'm not going to bed. You may be full and that's fine, however... if by the slight chance you'd be willing to accept more guys, with the gear I've already stated, and would have a use for me, I'd love to join. I'm 26, I'm mature. I love to joke around and laugh, and have a good time. To be honest with you. it would take one play station with me in vent to fit right in with most people. I'm just a normal dude, to put it politely I guess? lmao. Anyway, I'm looking for a more seriously clan, and if you guys happen to stumble across this, please add me on steam: kevin51501. I go by KFieLd in game, or Kevin. Doesn't really matter to me. I've been playing fps games competitvely for the last 10 years. Starting with Medal of Honor, Call of Duty, Call of Duty 2,(Both CAL League), CS 1.6, Battlefield 2, Battlefield 2142, etc.Even some blackops (gasp) and BF3. I have a working mic with surround sound, and when it comes to tactical gameplay, I'm all about it. I never did get a chance to play Arma but I did play america's army for about 6 months and that game requires the utmost professionalism. If you guys have a website you may want to point me too, please let me know. I will gladly make an app there. I'm just looking for a more serious group with players on every night, doing raids, and whatever else. And if it helps even a little, I've beaten pretty much Resident Evil/Biohazard game on the market. Yes, shoot me now. I collect the jap Biohard boxes. Anyway, shoot me a shout. And if you guys are full I apologize! Again: Steam: Kevin51501 -- I do not hack. I do not condone combat logging and I have NEVER done it, nor will I ever do it unless it's due to a hacker, but I do not support ghosting or any other kind of exploit. I hope you guys give me the chance to talk with you on comms so you can figure out what kinda guy I am. You may not be disappointed. I mean I'm a new yorker, who happens to be 26. I'm not a negative nancy who complains about everything, ESPECIALLY loot. Hope to hear from you guys.

Honestly one thing I think would help keep rampant banditry down a little bit is locking gear to servers much the way you do tents because this way friendly players could band together and create a "police" force one that reacts to reports of bandit camps and moves to clear them out. Because are you going to log into a server where you are the noob or the server where you are the predator if you have the choice? Also perhaps log out position as well so "ghosting" into a defended area to surpise the defenders isn't a viable tactic.

Its terrible that this amazing event (wish I would have known) had to be ruined by POS hackers with no since of fun and a good time involving anything peaceful. I really hope this can be a message for Rocket to fix ghosting. No reason for people to be able to warp in the middle of this and ruin it. Oh well, next time you guys are hosting I'll try to plan on being there passing out GPS and NVGs to all that show up for the good time.

Not necessarily safe areas, having so few villages it'd just make it bandit hell and half the fun is how tense the game is when coming across another player and observing to see if you can figure out if they're a bandit or survivor. I think the problem at the minute is its easy to be a bandit and it's hard to trust people. I'd like for there be a way to encourage player co-operation but I think artificially forcing safe zones isn't the way. I do however think they're should be specific log out zones that occur frequently enough that means both people can easily reach one and make it harder for bandits to predictably camp out, I think this would help with the alt-f4 and the ghosting issue that people exploit. You could even have it so you can still log out anywhere but it leaves your character sitting there vulnerable for another 2 minutes. Just my thoughts.

Okay, I'm going to jump in here. I don't speak for everyone in that group that night, I am speaking for myself. The reason why I agree with it being posted on the reddit, and on these forums and on DoA forums is for two reasons. First, because he is a clan admin. Second, because he is a server admin. In being both of those you accept responsibility that you are supposed to set an example for your community. The admin sets an example that everyone is able to see, and if the admin of that server is saying that it's just a dirty tactic to use ghosting, he's not a very good example for anyone in the clan and the server. It doesn't bother you one bit that, that guy is your clan leader and he's condoning cheating to try and win a game that is about survival? This isn't Grand Theft Auto, where you spawn weapons when you die in a cheat to get everything back. It's played as a simulator, trust me IF we decided to run off because we couldn't see him for 1 minute while one of our buddies was being shot and killed and we lost that AS50 it wouldn't have mattered.. We aren't exactly that bad off in game, we're doing alright weapon wise. The point is, there was ONE person shooting and one person only.. There were 7 of us, why would that group even decide to leave? Now if that one person had legitimately, without ghosting, killed 2 or 3 of our guys you bet your ass we would be out of there and cut losses with the weapons, but why would we leave when a dude is ghosting and unless he ghosts all 7 of us and kills all of us we can get all of our loot back? To the person saying don't be attached emotionally to you're loot, we're not. We were playing reckless, the only reason we wanted him killed was because of the fact he was cheating. I won't reply again, because it's obvious that asses will be kissed and it will start a flame war further than it already has. tl;dr - He's a clan and server admin, they are supposed to set examples for their community. He doesn't set a positive example, and should not be allowed to be put in a position where he can negatively influence others and make them think it's okay to do that and make the problem worse than it already is because he is a clan and server admin.

They might very well have seen him, but he ghosted. Which means he can move freely on another server just to spawn behind them, and then move away again, without them having a change to spot him. And it's a fair fight - this game is about survival, groups have a higher chance of surviving. People can't ghost for real, but people can group up. Ghosting is an exploit that should be dealt with harshly.

^Unfortunately our camp is on their server.. Good news however! Basically I respawned with a new name, went up to our camp as fast as possible, grabbed a M249 SAW and a vehicle, and drove up to the airfield. We saw earlier that they had a vehicle there as well so my goal was to park our vehicle at a safe distance and steal theirs. Along the way I got kicked off a dozen more times but I managed to get there. As I approached the vehicle I heard gunshots however, and I managed to locate 4 of them near a wall at the side of the airfield. I proned down in the grass, unable to see them but aware of their position and fired about 150 rounds at their position, scoring 2 kills. I was positive there were at least 4 however so I approached with caution, got kicked another 3 or so times, and while looting the 2 dead bodies a third one appeared, dead as well (guess he died as he DC'd). I wasn't sure where the 4th one was so I waited for him to appear, after a minute or 3 I noticed he was back in the lobby and saw him enter the game on the player list. Couple of seconds later I spotted someone sitting in a tree around my original position, from where I first opened fire at them. I took him down, pretty sure before he was fully logged in, and it showed the name of the 4th player in chat, saying he had died. Basically he tried to ghost me. I then got kicked again so decided to change my name to one of theirs, who had left the game after I killed them. Somehow they must have fell for it because I wasn't kicked since, being able to loot the bodies and steal their car and park it in our camp. A couple of items got lost because I was getting spamkicked while looting but at least they got what they deserved. It does suck that our camp is on a server owned by an admin abusing, DCing, ghosting group of people (AKA scum, worst people in DayZ) though.. TLDR: They abused admin rights, spamkicking us, and DC'd when shot at, yet 2 of us still managed to kill 2 of them. Then they killed me while logging in while my mate was getting spamkicked. I got back to the airfield and opened fire, killing 2 and causing 2 of them to DC, 1 of which tried to ghost me. I still killed all 4 of them, all the while getting kicked every couple of seconds. I stole their vehicle and most of their loot, a couple of items (M107, GPS, Coyote Backpack among others) disappeared because I looted them while getting spamkicked. Their names: Sloppzz (admin) Babelfish KINGPIN LoKi2 MyMateDave

Good news! Basically I respawned with a new name, went up to our camp as fast as possible, grabbed a M249 SAW and a vehicle, and drove up to the airfield. We saw earlier that they had a vehicle there as well so my goal was to park our vehicle at a safe distance and steal theirs. Along the way I got kicked off a dozen more times but I managed to get there. As I approached the vehicle I heard gunshots however, and I managed to locate 4 of them near a wall at the side of the airfield. I proned down in the grass, unable to see them but aware of their position and fired about 150 rounds at their position, scoring 2 kills. I was positive there were at least 4 however so I approached with caution, got kicked another 3 or so times, and while looting the 2 dead bodies a third one appeared, dead as well (guess he died as he DC'd). I wasn't sure where the 4th one was so I waited for him to appear, after a minute or 3 I noticed he was back in the lobby and saw him enter the game on the player list. Couple of seconds later I spotted someone sitting in a tree around my original position, from where I first opened fire at them. I took him down, pretty sure before he was fully logged in, and it showed the name of the 4th player in chat, saying he had died. Basically he tried to ghost me. I then got kicked again so decided to change my name to one of theirs, who had left the game after I killed them. Somehow they must have fell for it because I wasn't kicked since, being able to loot the bodies and steal their car and park it in our camp. A couple of items got lost because I was getting spamkicked while looting but at least they got what they deserved. It does suck that our camp is on a server owned by an admin abusing, DCing, ghosting group of people (AKA scum, worst people in DayZ) though.. TLDR: They abused admin rights, spamkicking us, and DC'd when shot at, yet 2 of us still managed to kill 2 of them. Then they killed me while logging in while my mate was getting spamkicked. I got back to the airfield and opened fire, killing 2 and causing 2 of them to DC, 1 of which tried to ghost me. I still killed all 4 of them, all the while getting kicked every couple of seconds. I stole their vehicle and most of their loot, a couple of items (M107, GPS, Coyote Backpack among others) disappeared because I looted them while getting spamkicked. Their names: Sloppzz (admin) Babelfish KINGPIN LoKi2 MyMateDave

Well if he combat logged, you have all the rights to ban him from your server and make him quit his bitchin. I mean, I would if he did. On our server We've banned a few people now, Combat logging, Ghosting, ect.

Id be happy if Rocket just fixed the ghosting, like a five minute incoming timer if you log out in shock or if the hive would read log in log out and hit you with death. i play on one server and do not dc. i die and respawn, like most of the players, but when i die by some ghosting fag it kind of bothers me.... fix that and id be happy

Thanks, two of the guys got hit later in the video (we were pretty much under constant attack at this point when we were moving in the video, so were going to regroup) by an AS50 Ghillie guy, we found the guy and he instantly DCed as soon as he heard footsteps behind him and we got visual. I don't really understand it, but it allowed us to retrieve the bodies at least and then we switched back to our server as we feared ghosting. Ironically I got ghosted on top of the hospital later on when we relocated to a new server and I decided to just run round Elektro scaring people by being friendly then getting my buddies to troll snipe, unfortunately no name tags and he DCed as soon as I got up with only 500 blood. Then I had to go :(

Yeah, it's one thing to die from a hacker every once in a great while. It's another thing entirely when you start dying to hackers more than you die legitimately. Dying from ghosting and missing kills due to ninja DCs are one thing, but dying and losing all your stuff over and over again from someone who you pump full of rounds only to realize too late that they're invincible is a whole new level of demoralizing.

If you truly believe that, then you'll understand that we were not restarting the server to deter you in any way. That's not the way we play, period. I was one of the clan members that got headshot in that camp by the third guy you called in. See it from our point of view: In the space of 2 hours, WHILE we were in the process of moving our camp, the following happened: Everyone on the server got teleported to Dagger at the location of our new camp, which was a clear hack/nuke attempt. Dag quickly restarted the server to prevent everyone from getting nuked. Then, after that, we continued the camp move after determining that we restarted the server fast enough to keep everyone from respawning on top of us. That's why one of your guys saw a glimpse of everyone piled on top of each other and then after the restart spawned in at his previous location. THEN, within 30 minutes of the hack attempt, two players (you guys), found our camp, which until then had been untouched for almost TWO WEEKS. You guys killed Flesh Gordon, the first player you encountered. He did NOT Alt+F4, he died, respawned, and stayed in the server. When our other players engaged you, you retreated and then disappeared. That's understandable due to the server's instability, whatever. We all assumed you were going to ghost to behind the camp on another server and/or were part of the hack attempt, but we continued trying to frantically get everything out of camp. THEN, after you guys were unseen for a few minutes, another member and I were loading up the UAZ when someone spawned in and sniped me in the head in the camp. I presume he had JUST spawned in because he shot me literally as we were planning on teamspeak to leave, but I had been fully visible in that part of camp for over 10 minutes moving gear. Then he destroyed the UAZ and killed the other member. I didn't see either of you guys again. I, nor any one of our other members, logged out during combat through that whole saga. We were not attempting to "game" the game, nor were we worried about anything but defending our camp against unknown (and disconnected/presumed ghosting) assailants and then leaving. We thought that there was no way our previously undiscovered camp was found less than an hour after a blantant hack attempt just by coincidence. The final server restart after I was headshot in camp was to update the banlist after the original hacker was determined. As an aside, it's awfully nice of you guys to include a little bit of retribution in your story by going ahead and posting coordinates of the camp for the public to view. In addition, another location of ours was broadcast on Reddit by some individuals who want "retribution" of their own for whatever reason. I'm not accusing you guys of hacking or of anything other than getting extremely lucky right AFTER we got hacked, but we did NOT bring the server down in any attempt to hinder you. So, go ahead and troll one of the server admins who is actually putting in a lot of effort to keep the server free of hackers. We're sorry your camp-hunting fun got ruined by being in very close proximity to a hack attempt (reasonably suspicious from our point of view because of how fast it happened at the time without knowing you were a separate group). After retreating from camp and logging out, do you guys absolutely deny that you were attempting to hop to another server, change your location, and come back in on a different side of camp?

I know the group still exists and it's still a great idea but I don't think you'll ever be able to fortify a base and having a large organised group is good until you try to hold a point, especially with the amount of banditry and ghosting that exists.