DemonGroover

In regards to poll results. The actual point of a poll is because there is no way of actually asking every single person their opinion and so a sample of the population is chosen. More often than not this sample reflects the overall population and this is why the figures given can usually be trusted to be representative of everyone (give or take a few %) The issue with the 1st vs 3rd poll on this forum as well as Reddit is that the sample chosen is NOT representative of the overall DayZ community. There are far more players playing who never post on reddit or these forums. So i for one agree that these polls are probably only reflecting the hard core players opinions and not the masses. Rocket has clearly stated that 3rd person will stay in some form or another. We just have to accept that fact and i think pointless posts about our opinions on what is better or realistic are now invalid. So now that we know 3rd person is here to stay, what could make it better? For me - restrict prone to 1st person. This instantly gets rid of the camping rooftop sniper lying on a roof. If he wants to camp he will now have to do it crouching.

If both were equally possible i would much rather fortification. I just don't think you would have the time or resources to construct anything in an apocalypse scenario apart from maybe a hole in the ground, but there would be a great incentive to fortify a house for example. Even a few planks of wood across a door or window. Ive read (seen?) somewhere that the devs plan on having the zombies beat down doors, so for me this insinuates we can barricade those doors with something.

I very rarely leave the coast in the vanilla mod now. I generally do the Balota/Cherno/Elektro runs until i inevitably get killed. Fun times. Now if i could just nab a boat i would be very happy indeed.

Soulhunter Sorry, my post wasn't directed at your post in particular, but the poll results in general on this thread and your document. My questions were also directed at everyone, not just you. Sorry for the confusion. Insofar as the last comment about the poll results. I am not sure where you are from but here in Australia we have political polls every few months about how the government is doing. If the poll says the government is doing a good job they use the results to further their claims about how well they are doing, but if the poll results come back that they are doing a bad job the government will say "Polls don't matter"

Sausage I think that is the crux of the issue though. A lot of 1st only players do consider it a cheat. I wouldn't personally call it a cheat but if two people are behind opposite sides of a wall, one using 1st the other 3rd who has the upper hand? And this is only because of perspective not skill or even luck. But yes, cheat is a tad harsh.

Sometimes choice isn't always a good thing. Look at the chumps who run our countries for example.

Well i cant wait for a prison. An underground military bunker or nuclear silo would be cool as well, but it would have to be pitch black. I would actually like to see a civilian airport terminal as well rather than just being military. Maybe some Roman ruins - a small colosseum? It would be nice if the Cherno Hotel had some levels that were enterable.

I like your reasoning. The Olympic commission should take on that logic and just allow performance enhancing drugs to be used in the events. If everyone can exploit a system or that system is accepted by everyone then its all fair. Like it!

I'd rather fly to Altis.

So can we conclude that the majority of 3rd person players don't frequent the forums or reddit? Since these figures are disregarded by the 3rd person brigade for some reason what is your conclusion? The hard core players (ie those that can be bothered to voice opinions on forums) are pro 1st while the casual is 3rd? My other question is like the chicken and the egg. Did 3rd enabled servers come first or did players demand them? Reminds me of political polls - the loser always says they don't matter and the winner always says they do.

I have always like the red roofed barns. Hatchets, Winnies, Enfields and if lucky a CZ. I actually don't like the apartments - too easy to get trapped

Thread derailment anyone? As far as the OP's suggestion - not sure about the separate server option but i believe Rocket did mention that he intends to introduce a zombie life cycle. So newer, fresher, well fed zombies are fast while older, starving zombies are slow - and a mixture of inbetweens. I think this would satisfy some players desire for walking zombies somewhat.

Well as far as 1st person it needs to be as realistic as possible but in a game i suppose that is pretty hard to accomplish. The FOV always seem to be "out" - does anyone know - is it too hard to produce a 1st person view that simulates the human eye? Cant wait for the Oculus Rift.

I am proud to say i never played Arma until DayZ. However i am grateful it introduced me to the Arma series and am loving Arma 3.

Well it's not the servers fault if a hacker does this. Sure it could piss you off, but it sounds like you got most of their stuff back. As for the bloke whinging about his Huey i would have given him a totally broken one. Preferably in mid air.

It is not about being more right than anyone else. It is a discussion and we all have our opinions. Let's remember that. But the old "if you don't like it then go play somewhere else" argument really gets on my tits and reminds me of playground arguments when i was 8. EDIT: I agree completely Ken - there is room for both views i think, but i hope that the 3rd person view is at least tweaked to alleviate some of the concerns raised. In a game that tries to be authentic as possible DayZ really has some strange things within it.

I suppose that is the crux of the argument - what players want out of the game. When DayZ first landed everyone was into the immersion and tension of being thrown into a zombie apocalypse. No one had really any idea of what to do, where the good gear was and in my case, that 3rd person even existed. There were even friendly players!! Fast forward 6 months and there were no secrets to DayZ anymore and the general playstyle turned more to PvP as more and more people jumped into the game. A lot of newcomers probably haven't even tasted vanilla DayZ as the private hives with more gear and custom load outs and newer maps took over. DayZ has now just become a playground for getting high end loot and killing people - and the easiest way to kill people is use 3rd person to gain an advantage. I just wish people here would just admit that 3rd person makes the game easier and removes the fear and tension that only 1st person an truly give. There is nothing wrong with defaulting back to a more comfortable view if that is what you like but let's not delude ourselves in saying that it makes DayZ better because more people play with it on in DayZ Commander. It is easy mode - and i honestly thought DayZ wasn't about being easy. Being able to camp a roof in 3rd while prone is easy. Do it in 1st and shoot me and i will be impressed. Humans are a lazy bunch at heart and we will generally always take the easy option. If you are in a firefight and hide behind a wall how many of us would resist the temptation of enabling 3rd person to have a look? But stay in 1st and the game becomes much more tense and in my opinion better. That is what this original video was about. Not actually saying remove 3rd person, but appealing to players to try 1st because it gives you a better experience in the game. Don't cheapen and dilute the game just because it makes it harder. Have some of you 3rd person hipsters actually tried playing for any length of time in 1st person? Anyway i am sure 3rd person is here to stay, so fret not. That's my final opinion anyway.

Rocket may be redeveloping the zombie AI so it all may change but the current system still uses LOS methinks. It is possible to lose zombie aggro in the SA, but it is a lot harder. I hope that stealth or killing zombies is the only way to go in SA. Running through towns because you know going through buildings or behind trees would lose the aggro is kinda BS.

That is definitely an interesting idea there. Not sure how the constant loop checks to see if a player would be able to see a player/zombie would go in an MMO though.

As a compromise i say we have an option where we can choose whether or not our character has 3rd person view enabled. New Character Selection Screen.

Sorry i got stuck on this part. You were playing DayZ and there were no zombies? That sort of seems to be a bit pointless to me.

They call out friendly, they drop ammo and a ghillie for you and then they shoot you? Something ain't right with that? Are you sure you didn't point your weapon at them or something?

Tbh i am sure there will be some sort of DayZ mod for Arma 3 (hopefully an official one) but i would rather wait for one on Altis than the current small island of Stratis. We don't support the Zoombies mod here btw. Poor quality rip off - a bit like WarZ... or whatever the hell it is called now....Infested Survivor Scabies or something?

Sounds to me like a squad scored themselves a coyote backpack, an M4 SD and some antibiotics. But the question is: When you were checking that no one was following did you use 1st or 3rd person perspective?

I would definitely like to see the actual periscope. Perhaps they could make it a craftable item. Once you craft it 3rd person is enabled.