sausagekingofchicago

Alt-f4 pussies should be given a million paper cuts and then thrown into a tub of STD's.

Same. I love playing at night. I know those lives are short but sneaking around with only a flashlight while knowing the light can attract players is probably the best fun I've had in this game. This makes the game much harder even in third person. It's definitely easy to get turned around in the woods and I love that. I just wish the flashlight beam wouldn't go through objects. I'll crank the music up and walk around. The further north the better as I find it impossible to get lost in Cherno or Elektro or anywhere on the coast now. Night play is the only time I've found the zombies even remotely interesting after learning how to play. Trying to run from them in the pitch black with the flashlight swinging is intense. This is hands down the best way to explore the map for a little PVE action, no matter what view you're in.

Easier? Not really but I don't play with crosshairs, ever. I choose to play on servers without them because crosshairs in FP or TP is probably the cheapest thing in the game. It helps to know everyone else on the server is having the similar experience? I don't crawl around ever so chances are other players are not either. So even if I was forced into FP I wouldn't play that way. Zombies are not a threat in FP or TP. It sounds more like you're roleplaying than anything. Which is cool by the way.

Every third person shooter I've ever played allowed people to play in first person. As it's been said again and again in this thread, FP has it's uses. Use third person or not, I could care less. It's the FP crowd that wants to force their ideal game view on everyone else. This game is a third person shooter designed on a third person shooter but gives server admins the ability to turn off third person. Don't like? Play on FP only servers. I'd rather enjoy the game as intended than play the game in a terrible view designed for arena style games.

I guess I should have said "good" games. I also said tactics. None of those titles are even close to open world or sandbox and all of which force a player through a series of levels while on rails and most of the stealth is some basic scripted event thrown in to mix up the game play. Besides Mirror's Edge and Bioshock, I doubt any of those other games sold well enough to even support a multiplayer experience for long. Some of you should google peripheral vision and then wonder why you prefer to play games with blinders on.

That's exactly what 3rd person is for. How can using a view as intended be an exploit? You'll be grateful of third person when the zombies get beefed up and actual non pvp content gets added that requires stealth. I'd love to see someone try to sneak up on a player in the control tower of the NW airfield without third person. Or even sneak through a town of zombies without pulling aggro. Bonus points if they can do either without being shot by other players. Third person might not be realistic but neither is running around in a zombie apocalypse with a box taped to ones head. This debate is older than most of the people on this forum and I pray the devs are smarter than a bunch of whiny children that think using third person as intended is some type of exploit.

Are we counting deaths caused by hackers? Either way, I have no idea. I've lost count. I died about 4 times tonight. 6+ times last night. Mostly due to hackers but some were definitely legit. I got my share of kills as well so don't feel bad for me.

Hrm.. he might need a few days to think of one.

Have at me. Come on now, don't shy away from a debate. Name a game that requires stealth and tactics that forces a players to play in first person.

FP has it's uses. It's even perfect for some types of games like CoD or Halo. It's not perfect for this game. Everyone can use it so I don't see why so many people hate on it. Hurry up and adapt. It's not going anywhere.

Honestly, why would the devs even bother with this community of trolls, idiots, backseat developers, and demanding children?

In some parts of the world you can buy an AK47 with a single chicken. AK's are a "find in your home" type of weapon but it depends on where your home is. Just thought I'd mention that.

So don't stand right next to them? Silly? Yes but it's probably the easiest thing to avoid in the entire game.

I now freely kill bandits and let neutral players go free.

Easily could be hackers in both cases.

You guys shouldn't walk around with your ignorance showing.

I only say that because it's far too cheap to get another key after they are banned. Then again, I hear hackers are just buying generated keys for a few dollars which is pretty funny if you know the history of piracy. Besides, most fans of this game know what it's meant to be about and dealing with hackers isn't it. It would still have a draw and people would still come to play in droves. (honestly, 20-30 bucks for the standalone with scripting disabled = perfect) As for rising prices and paying again, no. They've repeatedly mentioned their desire to mimic the Minecraft model. You pay whatever the current price is to get in and you don't need to pay each time the price rises. That would be pretty silly.

You can make this game into third person shooter with a single key press. Just saying.

I hope it's a 100 bucks. That ought to solve some of the problems we're having.

Considering the current flood levels I'd personally rather they not release it until they're ready. I don't think this place can handle anymore crying.

You're right. I should have left out the "fully" part as it's always possible to miss things. I don't even get that bug so I can see how it was overlooked.

You mean 1.7.3

Would you like it right now or after it's fully tested for bugs?

Forget hackers and dogs. They should do something about the obvious trolls obviously.

If they manage to make zombies something worth being afraid of then maybe PVE would have a purpose. As the game is right now, what's the point? The zombies are pretty weak and their numbers rarely pose a challenge. I'm excited to see what they pull off with the standalone.