Fraggle (DayZ)

Yes to hot-wiring, no to keys. TBH I'd just smash the window. The chances of ever finding the correct key to a vehicle are pretty slim.

I agree! It's such a chore plus a massive risk, just doesn't seem worth it half the time. I think if you're running with a group then maybe it can be more worthwhile (and fun) but really I just don;t get it. Regarding your warning point it will never leave you. Think of it as a badge of honour, LVG has 7000 points so you're safe for now =)

Yup, full length too. Now when you're sitting on the roof of the hospital in Electro you've got something to pass the time.

This thread will mature like a fine-wine. Or cheese. I can feel it.

As we suspected all along he was indeed a spawn camping bastard. You are all heroes.

Well all I can say is thank god this isn't a game designed by commitee. When you try to please everyone you fail. I'd rather see them release a game that 400,000 people play and say is the best game they've ever played than a game that 2,000,000 play that they forget about after a few weeks. All we can do is hope that Dean feels the same.

Well that's because it depends who you ask. That was my honest answer =) Unless you're claiming that I'm lying to make a point which I'm sure you're not. And anyhoo, as has been said by me, SmashT, Demon, Rednome, Orlok and others (all with slightly differing views on the matter btw) it's kind of a moot discussion because 3rd person isn't being removed from the game. They just want to explore the possibility of fixing the current issue with the 3rd person cam. It's highly likely it'll be something very simple and I'm not complaining about it so I'm not sure where this elitist DayZ hipster thing comes from every time I make a post. I've already accepted compromise, it's a shame others can't

I did. It was ages ago though =) I spent bloody hours promoting Planet DayZ's hardcore 1st person vanilla servers too. We got busy, really busy. The problem is without constantly promoting it people "choose" the default 3rd person servers. The feedback on the forums was always great and people loved it, we had many converts. Anyhoo, I'm not arguing for the 3rd person cam to be removed, I just want it fixed.

No, that's just it. All of this variation and "choice" comes purely from the fact that DayZ is a mod. Many of the things that we currently see as part of the game aren't design decisions at all, they're remnants of Arma2 which has a very different set of requirements. When making an actual game from the ground up all of these things have to be considered. For me that will be the strength of the SA and the thing that'll make it stand head and shoulders above any other mods we're likely to see. The mod carries a hell of a lot of baggage, the SA doesn't have to.

Of course! Goddamit I nearly forgot all about that thread. This will breathe some new life into it. Thanks Wired. I'm thinking Phantom Of The Opera.

That's a really good article for anyone that isn't aware of the inspiration for DayZ. Well written too. Not sure about the photo though.

Well let's enjoy the peace and quiet until the vacuum he's left is inevitably filled. Farewell GooOgle you stupid duck. *sniffle*

Who glued all the pumpkins to the floor?

You mean the moon?

Oh no u di'nt! Where's Curgon when I need him, he wouldn't put up with this...

No, it put's me in a position where tactically any roof, window and wall could have an invisible sniper watching me meaning that however aware I am of my surroundings the game mechanic is broken and my only logical choice for survival is to avoid any of those things which is silly because if that mechanic didn't exist I could apply good tactics to increase my chances. That would be more fun than putting my safety in the lap of the gods. The SA will have many more vantage points in towns and cities, if there's the potential to have invisible players watching me from any of those points then I have to consider that detrimental to gameplay. (I'm trying RedNome I promise :/)

Well he has talked about it a bit in the past and he likes it for the same reasons as many others do as far as I can tell. He likes the added awareness of your surroundings (peripheral vision) it offers and that is the reason it was added to Arma all of those years ago, I remember watching some Arma2 dev videos about it when it was being developed, even back then it was a hot topic. Like many people he just feels more comfortable using it. But importantly he has recognised there are issue with it that effect gameplay. I posted some of his recent thoughts in this thread: http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/145895-first-vs-third-person-discussion-dslyecxi-video/page-35

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Yeh agreed, I don't have any answers :/ Just trying to steer the thread in a more constructive direction. It's not my thread though so I've done what I can =) I will make list though and post it up later/tomorrow of ways I think they could go about it... Carry on.

Haha, I haven't played the mod for bloody ages. Got bored of it tbh :/ I've had a good break though so might dust of my Enfield.

I think RedNome made a good point, we've been going around in circles for ages now and it's pretty clear who thinks what and that their views are unlikely to change in the near future. The facts are this: The devs do feel that there is currently an issue with the way the 3rd person cam works but they (Dean specifically) likes playing using the 3rd person cam a lot. This isn't a new issue btw it's been discussed for years over on the BIS forums but it's more relevant to us right now because it may actually now be addressed during the SA development. They will be looking at ways to refine/adjust the way the third person cam currently works. At this point it's kind of irrelevant now if we're happy about that or not because that's the course of action they've already decided on. So with that in mind it would be more constructive for us to offer ways they could go about it. Dean's unlikely to read through 40 pages of circular arguments but if we can form a decent list of suggestions and discuss the pro's and cons then I'm happy to compile that into something a bit more digestible than this thread and make sure he get's to read it.

Wut new thread? :/

I really should at some point. I uninstalled Arma2 a while ago to make room and keep meaning to sort it out. This thread and the "Musty Epoch" one are 2 good reasons to boot it back up.

Haha, but this is nearly 40 pages of circular gold!

Well you gotta admit it's slightly less tedious than the KOS debate? I don't even bother with those any more.