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Epoch has a lot of great ideas, but a lot of shitty ones as well . I hope SA takes some bit and pieces from all these mods to make one true dayz experience, because vanilla dayz is stale and while mods help freshen it up they add a lot of unwanted things. And nothing is rare in epoch.

Dayz was never about survival, its to easy to survive.I wouldn't consider epoch or origns or vanilla survival the only thing that can be considers pure survival is namalsk. Namalsk was the only time where I felt that I needed to survive. Food was rarer then military loot and it wasn't uncommon to freeze to death during the nights. I remember when I was 10 minutes before dieing of starvation and I found a few corpses by a train track that had 2 cans of beans and a soda can. I felt like the king of the world. High military loot was in abundant but unless you plan on eating bullets they weren't much use to you. They were traded for food. I remember offering a guy an akm for a can of beans once and he felt he was getting ripped of. I don't get that feeling with dayz. And unless its your first life on dayz, you can't call vanilla dayz survival. Because it isin't. Mods just add variety and longevity to the game. I won't make it fun forever but it will feel like a new game with every submod you launch. Thats why I want modding in, so I can feel like I'm playing Namalsk again. Once again, well said.

I can't bring myself to shoot unarmed players, that's something I really can't do.

Alright, I messaged you my skype. This is the server IP 176.57.142.101:2302 so you can start getting whitelisted and getting basic gear. I will be on once I finish my essay.

You see how many things you got to do :) If it was vanilla it would be I got my sniper.....and.....uh..............I shot a guy.................and then I died.

I can I agree that maybe that's how it will start, but then people will get comfortable with the system and understand their limits and once again be more inclined to shoot. What would reduce kos would be like. I see a guy, I got only 8 bullets in my chamber, I kind of want to kill him, but I really have to bring back these cement blocks so I can continue the construction with my west side of the base.

Jesus that's harsh. Well if you don't mind epoch (its whitelisted) and you got skype, let me know, we can roll together with a few pals I got on the server.

If takes me 8 hours to find a gun that gives just an additional reason to gun that guy down. I would be to afraid of losing what I spent 8 hours on. How do I know he is no threat to me? How do I know he didn't see where my base was? How do I know he isn't stalking me? How do I know his only motive isn't to feel me with lead. Finding a gun is harder, which mean i will be using weapons a lot less, which means when I do find a gun I'm going to want to have as much fun as I can with it, which means I will be more inclined to go hunting for players. The only "cure" to pvp is to introduce more things to do. As much as the world hates epoch, I have seen considerably less pvp in the server because people are to busy doing other things. Building a base, getting ores, searching for rarities, and so on. If all I can do is get gear and kill people, what do you expect me to do once I have gotten gear? Store for future use? Nope can't do that. Sell it for cash? Nope can't do that it either. Trade it for survival gear? Nope not even that. I'm going to use it. I'm going to make sure each one of those 8 bullets count.

What I want most, That feeling i got the first time playing dayz

To be honest it won't really make much of a difference if it moddible or not. It has only been a year since vanilla mod was released and it's basically empty. Just because they will have loot spawn in different places (which epoch has) or volumetric clouds (which arma 3 has) or a better inventory system (which arma 3 has) or item damage ( Better watch out, don't wanna break your flashlight). Doesn't mean it's going to last any longer. A good game could allow modding with out having to worry of the game going to pits. Most people enjoy playing mods with base building and trader and currency not because it is easier but because there is more to do. The more things there is to do the funner it is. I completely understand the hardcore players not wanting it to be moddible, You enjoy the hardcore aspect and I'm completely fine with that. That is my vision of dayz. Thats how dayz should be played. But it could only be fun for so long. If dayz isn't going to be moddible then I hope there is going to plenty of things to do. You must understand there is a reason why there is 2487 epoch servers and only 1506 vanilla servers.

I'm also full time college student :( tough life, you enjoy playing epoch?

Yea the submods are whats keeping the dayz mod's hearth beating. With out it, it would be dead. If standalone is not moddable I give 6 to 8 months before it dies. Just look how vanilla dayz is doing.

I play several games for progression, however most play the game for action, fun and that Adrenalin rush. The community will continue to KOS because its fun. Unless I make contact prior to meeting a person or they are unarmed I'm going to blow their head off because I have 101 reason to do so. It being fun exciting is one of the many. You said dayz isn't that mindset, but that's exactly what it turned out to be, and absolutely nothing can be done to stop it. People will always kill each other. You need to stop fighting it, stop denying and just accept it. I thought just like you when dayz first came out, hated the KOS. But now I learned to embrace it, I got used to it because trust me it's not going anywhere.

Wow. god help you