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Try using the search function. I started a topic just like this in General. There's a 5 page discussion on it. My opening post describes the endgame, as I see it, in detail. http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/206032-the-dayz-endgame/ I could easily argue that your 3 sentence topic, that includes dungeons (FFS), is much more un constructive. btw, separate, instance areas, with raid boss style content will never happen.

The endgame is player versus player interactions. And making Youtube videos.

Do you by chance have a mullet?

My memorable first day was looting a magnum and a child's backpack. That guy should've used his splitting axe instead of trying to shoot me.

Nothing is random in the world of 1s and 0s. Even computer based random number generators.

Gimme some flooded towns. Imagine Solnichniy or northern Berezino with houses half deep in water.

Have faith! I would like to believe that the devs are open to suggestions but the vision they have, for better or for worse, will be their own.

There's a few things the changelog didn't make note of. There's a current bug where, if you yell in direct communication, while in berezino, loot will spawn more frequently in the apartments in the area. Give it a try! I found several ruined wool coats this way.

I'm foaming at the mouth at the prospect of a more difficult environment. I have my doubts because once people learn how to deal, it'll be a cakewalk. Regardless, exciting times. I wonder what the server list will be like a month from now. Will it still be a list of many high and low pop servers or will there be more servers that're half full. I have a guess but will patiently wait and see. Ultimately, I'll still be able to respawn and pick fights as a new spawn, so that's good.

I lol'd!

You can't regulate communication like that. Moral or not, there will always be a workaround. What happens when I'm in the same room as my brother and friend a la LAN party? How would you handle that? Suddenly people sitting next to each other have an extreme advantage.

I play for the paranoia buzz. The blood pumps when I attack SKS dude with a baseball bat. I play for both friendly interaction and pvp. The artwork is pretty cool, too. In his defense, this IS a forum. Forums are for communication, regardless of how ludicrous the topic is.

Casinos, Strip clubs, go-cart tracks, public pools, fast food joints, bars, carnivals, bowling alleys, stadiums, malls, dams, convention centers, art galleries, and fair grounds. Bring 'em all on!! The more the better!

Bickering? Where? It looks like a civilized discussion to me. I might disagree with Mercules entirely, but that doesn't mean we're bickering like children. Debating isn't always fighting.

In my experience, hit boxes are smaller and axes hit to the right of where you are aiming. Try aiming for the left side of the zombie/player, you may have better results. good luck.

Yes. That's what this thread started as, and still is. After seeing multiple threads and posts where people are clinging to the hope that this will be a good pve-survival game, I took it upon myself to be the good guy and inform them before their dreams are crushed. If you're expecting anything other than the constant fear of being Killed On Sight then you might want to reconsider. For whatever reason, I feel the need to defend my position after 4 pages. Maybe that's my fault. I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here sometimes but feel obligated to properly respond in the thread that I started.

Okay, so PVP is not boring to you because you have time invested in acquiring gear, this is what I'm understanding. Perhaps you're on to something there. This is totally valid. In my humble opinion, this time where acquiring gear requires any significant amount of time is relegated to the pre-endgame experience. So, once the game becomes familiar to the average player and they learn that they can gear up in no time whatsoever, it becomes a non factor. For example, in the last 200 hours of play I've set upon myself to only collect firearm related loot off of other players, often leaving upgrades behind as gearing isn't really that important. Because gearing is so easy. Seriously, gearing shouldn't take more than half an hour to get what you need. I can't recall the last time I've really needed anything more than an SKS and a box of ammo. Gear is one thing but tactics are leaps and bounds more important. Perhaps you haven't reached this point in Dayz yet. But, I'm sure you will. Your previous forum statements regarding MMO PVP confirm this. You have stated in the past that MMO PVP (like wow, the biggest) require a gear grind and that there's no real skill, just gear. Unfortunately, that's not true. You can easily acquire a full set of tier 2 (Grievous) pvp gear in less than a week and be totally competitive. Prideful quality does take a few weeks, but it's not that hard. As someone who has actually had a decent rating in those games, geared up several toons, and logged -many- hours, I can tell you that what you've said indicates that you are clueless of the truth or just lying about it. ^^totally not true. Visit the forums of the people who take these things seriously. Hundreds of thousands of players that provide in top tier tournaments will disagree.

Maybe that's part of the problem. Maybe that's why I'm all for PVP. In the end, when they have to balance gameplay, they will never make the zombies more threatening than other players. How could they without making them way overpowered? To the point where it's completely unrealistic (even for a made up thing like a zombie). THAT is pve that would get me excited, but what are the chances of that in the final build? Quite slim.

Absolutely clear. I put out the warning that all of the things that you listed that don't involve PVP will be trivial. Gearing up will always be a breeze. Avoiding non-pvp deaths after you learn the hard lesson once will be easy. Figuring out where to go to loot things: easy. (even for the new player, really! look at all the online sources!) Fighting zombies: easy. Hell, even look at current stable .47; melee combat is totally broken. Even while handicapped due to game mechanics, you can take on 6 zombies and not get a scratch, once you learn how to do it. I've read the statement in your sig. Multiple times. I think it's silly. It's a fine tag line to get people to buy the game but unrealistic in terms of describing the true nature of the game. I've been playing videogames for almost 30 years and MMOs/FPS since the beginning. Experience tells me that the pve in this game will be completely trivial. "Survival" as a goal, as sold by the company, is way to vague to have any meaning whatsoever. That's like saying the point of any game is to 'win'. well, duh. I don't get why people say that I'm not listening to their opinions. I am. Such is the nature of opinions, huh? None of the opinions that I've heard compels me to change mine. I'm not really trying to convince you to not play the game or that the game is bad or anything else. Just because I don't agree with someone, doesn't mean I'm not listening to what they have to say.

why so angry? why are you throwing insults at me?

Discussion involves more than; "no, it's not" "yes, it is" "no it's not" "no, it's not" is hardly a convincing argument. If you don't want to engage in this thread then please refrain from posting or reading it. Your problem solved!

No, I've considered what everyone else has said. These 'multiple things' that aren't pvp have limited shelf-life. And will only hold the attention of the consumer for so long. All of the points that have been used against my 'warning' I've carefully considered. I'm totally willing to change my beliefs but I haven't seen any arguments strong enough to refute my prediction. I've also addressed the fact that it's incomplete. Believe me, nothing would make me happier than to have an mmo that provides an honest challenge beyond pvp. It's never happened. I've even set out the challenge to anyone to give a single example where single player mmo content is challenging. So far, nothing. I don't believe telling Rambo to say more than "No, it's not!" is too far out of line.

Don't worry. The fear of dying eventually goes away on its own. It's kind of a sad moment when it does because the paranoia buzz is kinda cool. My humble suggestion is to get into as many fist fights as you can until this fear of yours goes away. Unless you like the fear, then continue to do what you're doing! :)

Uhh, what? It's fine if you disagree but please give examples, use logic and critical thinking to support your view. Just posting one statement with no evidence isn't really doing anything for your argument. I've stated my opinion and explained thoroughly why I think it. Please do the same if you're going to participate in a discussion.

Lovely, another question about zombie lore... :rolleyes: