SGT. Kalme

I carry an m4 just because close quarter protection is most important for me. I have no plans to shoot long range. When I do, I move closer. Matchete and FNX aside of it. There are times when I only carry matchete and FNX but I take up m4 when I can.

I don't know as of now. Never happened to me. If I had a chance to kill the bandit, I would. If I didn't, I would look for one. Definitely I wouldn't sit tight and wait till he decides that it would be fun to kill me.

It has been posted. Why people don't want to understand? Will a gunshot kill you when vital area is hit? Yes, of course. Will an arrow kill you when hit to a vital area? Obviously. Smaller bullet can cause more damage. The shape of a bullet is not mean to cut through - but smaller caliber bullet due to lesser energy, is more likely to be stopped inside body and rip the wound open while bigger round has more energy to penetrate the body completely leaving clean wound - as clean as a bullet can leave. Arrow is meant to cut. Cut through the flesh, vessels, organs. Construction of broadhead shows that it couldn't cause damage similar to a say .223 round. Due to the much better ability to penetrate, it goes through animal body when bullet doesn't. That is because arrow lacks kinetic energy to cause a killing shock. Blunts are only used for small game whereas it has enough energy to kill. For a big game, it is quite useless. As you see two type of weapons use different mechanics to cause damage. And the damage is different. In DayZ damage is calculated in too simple way to make them differ. Both shots can kill you at once. Both shots can leave you alive. Go ahead and try to implement that into DayZ.

And someone said that morale is the farthest thing from DayZ. It is nice to see so many different ways of behavior. That makes the gameplay unpredictible. Every second you may surprise. I think people are overthinking the simple situation. Being in the situation with no time for threat evaluation would replace the poll - I am sure that about 8 out of 10 would kill the contact on sight and with no further thinking. 2 out of 10 are natural loss that have forgotten why we survive daily. Now, in different situation, results would vary greatly.

I use slightly recurved longbow.

Depends on more criterias than that. If I ran into one in a place where I had little to none time to evaluate the danger, I would likely shoot them all. If I saw any of them from distance and they were no threat to me, I wouldn't shoot any of them.

Small caliber bullet won't knock you down by its kinetic energy when it penetrates. The knock-back is apparent when the bullet hits ballisic protecion such as ceramic plate that stops bullet instantly. From short range, even 7.62 will rather penetrate the body that knock person down. I agree that realistic system for that should be added.

Your are one dull piece of meat, aren't you? Uh, well. How else could I explain it to you. I think I am unable to do it because you are unable to follow our discussion. Plus your lack of ability to think on your own. You are just stuck with your idea that is so far from reality that I can't even see it. Sorry I have to say that but this is going nowhere. But I do know for your luck when you will be able to see the things clearly. That is when the need arises. Hopefully not too late.

Because at some point the human was just like other animals. That is, the reasons to kill. To further human evolved, the more he started killing. For lesser reasons. So, people were grouped and put under control by strict order. Today, people kill for fun. Our ancestors hunted because they needed the fur or meat, today people hunt people the want the head of an animal on the wall. But the progress has not stopped and the need to kill with even lesser reason becomes more and more apparent. It is sad to see that you can only see one way of thinking. It is a narrow path and leaves most of the important aspects out of it.

I don't believe everyones families would just die on place. That would mean everyone would die because everyone has and is family of someone. Secondly, I don't put pricetags on lives - for my son, I would kill so many people but for myself I wouldn't. I would kill a stranger without hesitation to save my life. As I would to save any of the close people. People being in groups only adds unreliability to their actions. Especially if they are strangers. I don't hate other people. Neither do I play this game as I would. But I couldn't be successful in this game, neither in real life situations, if I didn't acknowledge the fact that there are people that would kill you with not a single or second thought. Well, we can see the amount of the people who don't by counting the certain threads. And that is plenty. And if you read news, you see there are plenty of people ready for cruelty that is unbearable to you.

You still don't understand it, do you? Have you ever been in a need for something that no getting that could mean your death? Starving, cold, thirsty. Whatever it is. Beans are not just beans when it could make the difference between living and dying. It seems that your values are oddly misplaced. It may or may not be one affection of modern society. We buy what we want forgetting what we even need. You should defintely try out survival camping. I am not offending you. Just that going out to live in the woods with minimal resources can teach everyone a thing or two. And not only about survival.

Actually circle has none. And yes, I will die. You will die. Everyone will die. Some people die faster because they are weak and incapable of survival outside their natural habitat which is a safe life in a gray box in a big groups of boxes that you call cities. I could manage though, I feel myself very comfortable in the woods.

It is not about beans. You haven't felt starvation if you think people would not kill for food. It is not killing for beans, it is killing to survive. And you do realize that it is not up to you to decide who would and who wouldn't? And definitely you couldn't know that before you either got other guy to stick to or you die. If you think that people can fight their basic instincts and survive, you are one happy blue-eyed guy. And I am glad to see you have so much faith in humanity. But it won't happen. If you try to fight your survival instincts, you will die. Even more if besides instinct you have no survival skills.

I try to explain it to you as an average person would. I am in a zombie apocalypse. I have nothing but a need to survive. That means I need food, water, shelter as the first main things along to defending myself from other apparent threats such as zombified people. Now, I find a place where is a guy. He have food and water and shelter. All the things that I need to survive in the first place. But he is not going to give that to me just because I go and say hello and wave at him. The link between my goal to preserve and necessary resources that would provide it, becomes one unreliable link. You don't know the person. If he is agressive or friendly guy. Willing to share or keep it all to himself because he is also in need to survive. Now, if I want to find out which he is, I will but my own purpose to preserve at risk. He may be armed and shoot you. Your primary instinct is to survive, you are close to have all you need for it but there is a distractor that is not important from surviving aspect. Important is my life and his resources. Do you a) go and risk being killed, B) kill him bcause that way you are safe and your goal is fulfilled or c) leave and hope you find a different way to obtain resources for survival? I will tell you right away, on an unconsious level you are not going to value completely unimportant person higher than you need and your options to survive. Can't explain in a more simple way why people act how they act.

What is not apocalypse? The end of the world as we know it would not be apocalypse if people would go around and kill eachother? How people react doesn't make it one or another. It is the nature of event that determines if it is apocalypse or not. Some just don't want to understand that people are not alike, they don't think alike, never behave alike in a total anarchy. People kill when they only feel that they should. They think that they are in threat, sense danger when there is no actual signs of it. Do you know how many people are killed in the name of selfedefense where actually was no need for it? Or even where it was attacking not defending? I don't know but ina small country like mine, I can read about such events every week. And that is in the controlled environment. What I am trying to say, don't be naive. Get used to that world is not wonderland and people are not telletubbies in it. From all the people in the world, I can guarantee you that there would be people who would kill another just because.

You seem to confuse this. There is a good saying that war does not determine who is right but who is left. People think war only exists between soldiers. All kinds of anarchy is a war. Everyone in it is in war. It is fight between individuals. If you think society is nice and polite because how it exists nowadays - it may surprise you but it is only because people are being highly controlled and they have no freedom of act. People are not nice and polite and won't call you for a supper when there is collapse of all modern society going on and everything goes to dust. In hope that you will find others to survive with, you will die before you learn that it is a lie. It is in our nature. You say animals by nature group together which is true but other animals don't kill for no reason while human does. That is why it is not in human nature to trust another just like that. Some people are naive but don't confuse that with what we are. Some people just don't know better.

For some reason, people still can't accept the fact that there are people different than themselves. And they create topics daily about this. Everything you experience in DayZ is a part of it. It is safe to say that even those annoying bugs will be part of it. And it won't change by adding mushroom picking options and twenty new wool coats. Neither does increased environmental threats and improved infected AI and strength. There will always be different peolple and there should be. If DayZ was like virtual version of Canada where even dogs apologize for barking, it would quickly run out of popularity. It would get boring because you could loot and all with no danger. That is not survival, that is stupid. Hopefully you will adapt and overcome but if not then it might indeed be a best thing to quit.

People are going to die. That is only true concept of apocalypse. I don't think you understand the cruelty that human is capable of. Shooting someone from distance is very humane way to kill a person. And people do it. Along other options. And not just in a war.

That is exactly what I meant by saying people have lost the need for self-defence. That also means recognizing possible danger to defend yourself from. For individual, normal is not being in a group. Normal is being alive. And you can take poison on that there are people who want what you have. Or are overly paranoid. Thinking all the people will group together, will plant potatoes and start the communities to rebuild is naive. In a first phases of chaos, people don't think about such things. They only think how to not die. Any option is suitable. And that is the first instinct. While we can talk here till the end of the days, it is going too far away from original topic.

I am still hoping the zombie hordes will come eventually. Zombies have to be a threat, to any player single or grouped. I don't think interaction should be forced. What is wrong with keeping an eye on someone before rushing into contact? That yolo-attitude is all nice and such but it isn't very effective if we measure effectiveness in hours lived. For me, survival is the main goal of this game and while I don't avoid people at all costs, I don't seek for death either. People play how people want. Zombies should still be hell of a strong and in many numbers at once.

I believe it wasn't. But it was temporary chaos. Now break down the infrastructure of one whole nation. When there is no one to react fast and no resources to start eliminating the damage, it will escalate into worse and worse.

I wasn't thinking about Katrina at all. Anarchy comes when it crap hits the fan. Not momentally but it will. Every step of agression against collapsed system will be a step towards it.

But mankind have never been so dependant of the system that could easily collapse. A war in a 3rd world countries doesn't affect much because their infrastructure is built inside their close community. For modern countries, if electricity providance stop, communications are down, production is zero then the panic will come. And that is what let's say war brings. Because power stations and communication is primary target for any agressor. But there could be other reason what cause those systems to collapse. And because peoples lives depend on what stores sell, what companies provide, they will not hold hands and sing around bonfire till life is good again. It is off-topic but in comparison to apocalyptic game like dayz, reality wouldn't be much prettier.

I have only been killed once by a bug. I do have encountered cool guys who have helped me and who I have helped in exchange. I never stick to people I run into. I go around, from one side of the map to another and see players quite often. I don't rush to speak to them. Situational awareness will increase the odds of surviving. I will tell you how apocalyptic event would turn out. There would be people who could kill for less than can of beans. Majority of people couldn't survive the wilds just like that.

It is not one or another to be prefered but all of the variations together. Hopefully the game will expand and bring more choices to it but I will eat my hat if people change because of that. What you see in DayZ today, will be there tomorrow. And days after that till game is finished. And later when it is forgotten. Survival camping is nice thing to spend your time with in physical world as well. And provides some useful skills that may become handy at some point or another.