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Anyone left who likes jogging instead of sprinting?
nl replied to Jock McScottish's topic in General Discussion
Yup and you will constantly overheat or have to keep your self wet which will give you hypothermia when looting a town, which means you have to warm yourself again with a fire and so on, too much micromanagement for me. I usually will only wear a shirt (or raincoat) and while jogging you never get too warm. Saving sprint for if I have to get out of Dodge fast. -
Check this list, slightly more money but way more future proof. The MoBo is excellent. The CPU can be overclocked in the future should you want to. Not sure what pc case you gonna use but the suggested cooler is pretty tall, about 16 cm so check if that would fit your case. It is an excellent " budget" cooler that I have myself but not the first choice should you want to do massive overclocks, but that kind of cooling will cost some more money. Alternatively you could choose RAM that can go faster than 2400 MHz, like 3000 or even higher because the MoBo will support that speed with a simple BIOS setting (with OC - native memory clock is also 2400), of course prices go up that way. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W3rWpb
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That's pretty cheap for a corsair PSU, however, you don't need that many watts, like I explained before you will never need that much power unless maybe you start running two beefy videocards, both overclock them and overclock your CPU and RAM and have many power hungry peripherals connected to your system like led strips, 10 fans and so on. A powersupply is less efficient when running under less than a 50% load and you will probably never exceed 400 / 450 watts. The cpu you chose supports a max of 16 GB RAM, that should be enough but just be aware you could not use more should you want to in the future (VR). Personally I would buy a MoBo and CPU for socket 1151 instead of 1156, seems more future proof to me. I also think an i5 cpu would be fine for you, maybe you can get a faster i5 for about the same price as your i7. Also, for the same money you can find a MoBo that supports DDR4 RAM and you could probably find DDR4 RAM for the same money, I think you would be better off buying 2 x 4 GB of DDR4 and maybe later buy two more sticks to get to 16. 8 GB is enough for most games and 16 GB will only slightly help in better game performance. With your choice of hardware you are building a system that is already outdated today and not scalable for your future plans.
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You could take a risk buying a secondhand game system / parts. @pilgrim* many people go way overboard with PSU's. Most systems will do fine with a 500 / 550 watt PSU and could save some money. For instance, when I run Battlefield 1 my system draws no more than 300 watt (see signature for systems specs). I have a 650 watt PSU myself and will probably never hit its limits, even when overclocking the CPU and GPU. Most PSU's are also less efficient when drawing <50%.
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For 500 you are not gonna build much...unless you already have stuff you can re-use like a pc case, PSU. A decent GPU, CPU and motherboard will already go over 500 most likely. Anyway, DAYZ should run fine on an i5, GTX 1060 and 8 GB RAM.
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Yes, with 32 bit the system can use a maximum of 4 GB, this 4 GB includes VRAM so 6 GB of memory is not used in your system. You can try the software pilgrim suggested or buy windows 10 64 bit, it's not really that expensive escpecially the home version. You have pro now but do you need it?
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Ah yes, but why? His CPU is 64 bit...it would already increase performance because now he can use only 4 GB of memory and that INCLUDES his VRAM. Going to 64 bit OS will make an extra 6 GB of memory available and no doubt give better performance (both in the game as in general computing performance.
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That's where you are going wrong, this way you practically disable your videocard and put all the work on the cpu, and since the game is not yet optimized it is already cpu heavy. I used to get between 30-80 fps on an i5 750 @2.6 GHz with 8 GB RAM and a GTX650 Ti OC 2 GB. I may have a screenshot somewhere showing my settings at the time, but will have to search for it, will post or link it here when I find it. Remove the launch parameters because they do nothing in DAYZ SA. Also restore your original config file and test with in-game settings before you alter anything. Why can you use only so little of your RAM? Do you start the game with the x64 client? Edit, found the settings, use this as a template and try to optimize for your own system:
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It will most likely take at least weeks and probably months is my guess. Just because something SEEMS playable (controlled environment) doesn't mean it is ready for the public and all aspects are in place. Also, they will probably want to be very sure beta is all everyone (or most) wants it to be to not repeat previous "grieve".
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I have a maximum of 1000$ to spend on components and will assemble them myself. I am aiming for a mid-range to high-end gaming system that will get me through the next 5 years or so. I will re-use my current pc case (Cooler Master HAF 922 and it's fans), my 650 Watt Antec Power supply and DVD player, and SSD/HDD, also mouse, keyboard and monitor will be re-used. I want Intel and NVidia, ATX form factor. (let's not have an AMD/ATI discussion) So what I need to buy for these 1000$ are: CPU (+ better than stock cooler) (at least i5) GPU (at least 6 GB) MoBo (OC capability would be nice but no must) (minimal 4 RAM slots), RAM (16 GB minimum) Any hardware suggestions from experienced builders / gamers?
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Okay, I manned up, found an extra 100€ and decided to get a 1070. Now I have to wait a few days for delivery... very curious to see what DAYZ SA looks like on very high settings... What I decided on: MSI Z270 SLI PLUS - MoBo Intel Core i7 7700K - 4.2-4.5 GHz - CPU Corsair Vengeance LPX - DDR4 - RAM 2x8 MSI GeForce GTX 1070 ARMOR 8G OC - GPU
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Windows 10 64 bit
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Thanks for the tip but a used GPU seems risky to me. They may have been used for mining and been working at 100% for months, maybe with good cooling, maybe not. Even if not, you know nothing about its past and most likely won't have warranty. Also, it's kinda hard to decide because everybody has their personal point of view. For now my reasoning is I will get a reasonably priced card (but still good) which I expect to upgrade in about 3 to 4 years. I think a 1070 won't last me that much longer and if it does it will probably have cost me about as much per year as the 1060 and the 1060 will be good enough for 1920x1080 gaming. For now, since I am on a budget I choose to buy a fast CPU because I expect to not have to upgrade it in 3-4 years. Of course an i7 and 1080 or 1070 would be best but I can't afford it right now.
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Yeah, when I look in the specs of the MoBo I see: 2400 MHz, 2133 MHz, 2800 MHz (O.C.), 2600 MHz (O.C.), 3000 MHz (O.C.), 3200 MHz (O.C.), 3600 MHz (O.C.), 3800 MHz (O.C.), does this suggests that speeds higher than 2400 will only be achieved when I overclock the RAM in the BIOS? I don't plan on overclocking for at least the first years so I guess I could simply buy RAM at 2400 mHz? BTW thanks again for the help Hase! Much appreciated!
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Yeah of course I could get faster RAM but it all comes at a price...trying to stay in budget here. I expect the videocard to be replaced in 3-4 years, hoping the cpu will still be powerful enough by that time. I can always upgrade RAM at that moment. I will take another look around to see what faster RAM would cost me.
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@HaseDesTodes this is the hardware list I think I will buy, what do you think? BTW, if I am correct I should be able to re-use my CoolerMaster Hyper TX 3 (2009) cpu cooler, it seems to also fit the 1151 socket. (currently on a 1156 socket) List below comes to just over 1000 € RAM https://azerty.nl/product...e-lpx-ddr4-16-gb-2-x-8-gb 16 GB: 2 x 8 GB - DIMM 288-PIN - 3000 MHz / PC4-24000 - CL15 - 1.35 V - niet-gebufferd - niet-ECC 135,76 € MOBO https://azerty.nl/product...71aPdbYYdmMIaAqZvEALw_wcB MSI Z270 SLI PLUS 147,09 € CPU https://www.alternate.nl/...ssor/html/product/1305350? Intel® Core i7-7700K, 4,2 GHz (4,5 GHz Turbo Boost) socket 1151 processor(FC-LGA4, "Kaby Lake-S", Unlocked, WoF) 349 € GPU https://www.alternate.nl/...aart/html/product/1288946? GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1060 G1 Gaming 6G, Grafische kaart(DVI, HDMI, 3x DisplayPort) 374 €
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Still doubting about the videocard / CPU combination. I can either get a 1070 and i5 or 1060 and i7, I think I will go for the last option.
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Prizes and availability of video cards are pretty much fucked up at the moment due to cryptocurrency mining...
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That's a nice temperature range but 52 degrees max like mine is well below limits and I don't think it really makes a difference for the longevity of the cpu. Mine has been running fine for 7 years now, often running at max performance. But I am good at keeping the fan and heatsink clean and every 2 years or so I give it new thermal paste. I also do this with my GPU / videocard. I think liquid cooling is the right choice when you start overclocking (a lot) or when you have a case that has trouble getting rid of the hot air, I have a high airflow case and I don't (or rarely) overclock. I may consider it in the future when I have some extra funds but for now I am not going to spend money on it because I don't think I have a problem to fix that warrants it. BTW how do you get 18 degrees when ambient temps are probably higher? I assume the liquid does not get cooler than room temperature?
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I don't think I want water cooling on my CPU. I have used a Hyper TX for a long time and was very pleased with it's cooling ability and noise production, my cpu never went over 52 Celsius. I have no reason to change anything about my cooling, with this case and 200 mm fans the system is quiet, just a low humm. Of course when the game is demanding the fans will spin up but I hardly hear that due to in-game sound. Also, water cooling complicates stuff, increases risk of damage (leaks) and because it still uses fans there's no advantage noise wise. Yeah, seriously looking at 1070, there's just so many variations these days of the chipsets.
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Will answer in English for the others :) Thanks! Yeah I know tweakers. The pc I built in 2009 (see signature) was actually mostly a copy of a system they assembled and tested, it's been a great system all this time. But nowadays they don't make and review custom systems as much as they used to which is a pity really. I understood they will publish another around september, not sure I can wait that long ;)
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Thanks for the effort @HaseDesTodes ! That is a nice list I can use to start from. I actually have a max of 1000 euro to spend, I thought 1000$ made a nice round figure. My judgement of AMD may well be outdated. It's just that I have always used Intel and was always happy with it while AMD people around me were complaining about performance, heat production and longevity. Like my current i5 750 which has been running since 2009 without a hickup, even overclocked. I just feel Intel is more of a sure bet. Same with NVidia, more developers seem to optimize games for them. But again, maybe this is all no longer true, I would have to do more research.
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Well, I don't need to replace the psu, my old one seems good enough for now. The way I figure this: CPU circa 250 - 300 GPU circa 400 MoBo circa 120 Ram circa 180 That would be about 1000 and I figure I can get decent hardware within these ranges.
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This issue seems to be fixed finally. I needed the latest driver for my GTX650 before it worked, but it does work for me now. Driver 384.94 date july 24th 2017 and latest Geforce Experience.
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1500 $ should buy you a pretty good machine. Personally I would go for a NVidia card, most games seem to be optimized for them rather than AMD. Although CPU and GPU are at the core of your performance don't cheap out on your motherboard. CPU cooling and a good "high airflow" case with 200 mm fans will keep it all cool. Of course you should also run your OS from a SSD as well as demanding games like DAYZ SA. Use a HDD for storage.