spawn (DayZ)

well you see here you said your team. so your playing the way that every survivor wants to play which is as a team and survive with others. when you play by yourself and have no team or friends you will see that you will get your ass handed to you even for you bandage. not everyone has friends that play computer games all day either. I mean I play with 1 other person because we are on leave. and we help others. but if soemone pulls the trigger first nothing we can do. and there is nothing you or your mates can do if your looting the airfield and there is a sniper in the tree line and shoots you in the head and then one of your mates. your other mates will try help or take cover. but the sniper has seen where your mates have ran to so he shoots one of them. then one of your friends take a shot at him and he logs off. now he kiled 3 of you and didn;t take any of your loot. what did he gain. if this hasent happened to you then lucky you havent seen a sniper yet lol. I have killed snipers doing this to players and been killed by them. as for legal rights and CSI and all that crap. well how about you make it so you cant change your name all the time. how about you change your clothing and what you look like. instead everyone loos the same in the game. so if you want to talk about CSI and real life then how about you talk about making it so not everyone looks the same or can change their ID every time they log in. your comment is typical for a bandit or a pker player

enermax. nearly every time I have been killed its been for my winchester or makorov or shitty AK. and the guy shooting me 9-% of the times is a sniper. now what does a sniper want with my shitty weapons. nothing becasuse he doesn't even loot my body. I know this because I have run back to it many times and everything is still there

you would shoot the new spawn? why he has a bandage and a melee weapon now. what do you gain from killing him. ohhhhh ur a bandit who plays the game just to kill players i forgot. You can always tell who plays the game to kill players and who plays the game to survive and explore with peoples post. nealry I think 90% of the players are bandits. If the bandits want to have a real trill or harden the game play up they should try playing a survivor. lol they will soon see that they will be dead in 20-30 mins. now there is a challenge for you, try and find players to play with. that is ultra hard mode. PVPing = easy mode. I see good points and the same old stupid comments like its alpha. or in real life who is there so deal justice. or in real life there are no safe spots. well in real life there is safe spots and a community of people. people then contradict themselves saying this cant be in play becasuse its unrealistic or that cant go in the game because the game is not realistic. we know its alpha and we are all playing it and lucky to be playing it. people voice their opinions because they can and it is to help the alpha mod and game creators make the game so it suites everyone as well as holding the games integrity. my spelling is shit. If I see the new spawn I leave him. I pretty much leave anyone I see alone. If I see people camping in a bush or tower or in a sniper position just playing to kill players for the kill count. then your mine!!

nice idea. it could work as a bank for you kinda. change from your M16A4 ACOG to your M24 or MP5SD. when you die at least you can run back to the box and get one of those weapons you searched so hard to find and feel a little better. But then people will say in real life when you die you cant resurect and go to your previouse life's box and loot it. Also the boxe's and tents bind to server so you will have to play on that server to get your stuff. then what happens on a server reset. you lose all your stuff. if it was kept there then over a months time there would be tjousands of boxes spread out all over the place which would lag the server? unless there was a bank for bandits and a bank for survivors. but then they would be PVP camping spots. unless you had a no PVP radius but that has been discussed and people say in real life there is no you cant kill people in this area or people will just wait outside that area to kill people

good update with the melee weapons. I have not died yet so cant see if they work yet. moch more realistic way to start the game. Now a fix to some ROE's or SOP's or yellow or red card action needs to be put in place. (rocket you said you served so I am sure you know what these are) yes we are not playing as soldiers but in a civilian environment there is still some kind of good or bad jurgment made by everyone with the instict of survival in the previouse patch its good that we actually have to look out for zombies now instead threating them like anoying fly's. But I seemed to be teleporting back to the Bolota airfield all the time as well as keeping the loot I have been finding. Good to see some new patches being put in place. few more fixes and some kind of ROE put in place or a goal or personal best scoreboard or time allive counter will be sweet.

thing is rickshaw people are not killing for their bullets or weapons. people are killing for the kill count. 1 or 2 mak rounds to the head to an unarmed survivor with a bandage and the bandit sais to himself, yess that was only 2 rounds. at this rate i will kill 20 people on this beach and beat my personal best. people are not playing to survive but playing to PVP as well. snipers for example. what gain does a sniper get for killing someone 200m away when they are on top of a building. do you think that sniper is going to go down there in the open to loot his body for gear he doesn;t need? no he will hide at the top of the building not killing any zombies around him so he doesn;t attract attention and wait for another poor un armed player to come along for his next kill. Kopiovastaava his beans? what use are his beans if your full health and you have no intention of killing zombies so you wont get attacked. your intention is to kill players from a position that you cant be seen and you wont get hit. you already have 3 tins of food in your back pack from your walk there so there which will last you 4 hours so no need for beans

Some good points here. however people bring this in to it. in real life there are no bandit skins for 1 type of person or 1 skin for survivor. then they say in a real life apocolyps you dont get a weapon when you start off or you need food or water to survive. so they allow for 1 thing but not allow for another thing just to suit the way that person plays (bandit clearly who doesn;t want to be known as a bandit to kill friendly people) and not what is real. They also bring in the fact that Arma is a so called simulator. then people say no its not simulators are not fun people dont play them. this is true. and if it was a simulator these guys have the slowest weapon reloads in the world i mean they cant even shoot and walk at the same time. or change weapons while moving. in real life this is very possible. in real life you carry up to 7 magazines full frontline ammo with a pistol, torch, weapon and so many other things which this game character can not carry. i mean a torch takes up 4 slots in here I think. so I dont think people can use sits a simulation so they cant change the mod to make it unsimulated. its already unsimulated 2) As for weapons I think at least a crossbow. I am in Australia and you can own weapons but wiuth a licence. then they are kept at the club or in your safe if its to a high standard. The weapons we are allowed to have are bows and in my state we can have a crossbow without a licence. so maybe everyone could get a crossbow. we all know how much we hate the thing 5) as for food and water. if In real life we needed to drink 1L of water every half hour or 1 can of soft drink every half hour we would drown. 48L will drown you in 1 day. 50kg of food will kill you. 6) too many weapons yes indeed. how many houses where you life do you think has a winchester and a pistol layig on the floor. 7) too much PVP yes. if it was real life the human race would be wiped out in 33 minutes. look at the average life span of a player. also in real life you need to be watched and protected while you sleep so killing people would make you a solo player and you would die. you need people to survive.

so I hear that rocket made it so you spawn without a weapon at the start so people are more inclined to work as a team. ummmmm this will not work. if I was a bandit as soon as I found one i would shoot all the guys with me without a weapon. then my name is remembered. easy fix just make a new profile. and hang around the shore and offer to help everyone or shoot all une unarmed people in chern looking for a pistol. and even if weapons are harer to find or ammo. bandits only want the ammo to kill people so they get what they want. and if they kill someone else they might get a chance to get more ammo for themselves. sorry this will not help teamwork at all

killing someone because your better then him lol. I bet some point in the game someone you have killed has killed you afterwards does that mean he is better then you or he was a pvp camper hiding in some bushes waiting for new spawns or waiting at a spawn point so he can shoot people. that is a real self obsessed answer to think everyone you kill your better then. which means I am better then bandits that have been on 13 kills in one life. this is my loot? you can have the tin cans your gonna suffer because of others? others doing what killing people. yur just as bad as that person team play, read the notes. its the reason why people are not spawning with weapons I am pretty sure it was written. if you dont like it take it up with rocket. I did in this thread now how about you grow a pair. I can tell many people in here have actually dealt in real life situations where there is death

I dont agree with getting rid of bandits. i mean they add to the fun. but when there is 40 people on a server and 39 of them are bandits because they have been shot too many times for a can of beans someone didn;t need or now in 1.7.1 a bandage they dont need. people get a bit shitty becasuse they are trying to survive not play COD. I have never played COD but heard what its like. I do agree to a reward for bandits killing survivors but and VS. and then also if a bandit kills another bandit killing one of their own they lose points. like maybe ranking or something and the same for survivors kiling survivors. that way people will ovserve people hide and tell them to stop or they will shoot. tell them to drop their food or weapon or they will be killed. then they drop their gear and run off. there is a successfull robbery. or maybe when they get close to eachother they can see how friendly they are in the face and make the call to kill or let live and team up and band together. now this would fix rockets plan for a bit more teamwork and all the killing for no reason and also bring more skill in to dealing with a possible hostile threat.

dont have to read. it us just unrealistic that the entire defence force is wiped out. in fact they would survive over civilians. we have everything we need in the defence force from infantryman to people that fix sinks to people who do law to people who build web sites. I think AI guards at the army camps would be great. or even zombies that are maybe half infected. tricking you thinking they are alive but then they rish at you will full kevlar and take a whole clip to kill. or maybe they have better hearing so if there is a sniper sitting back on a hill side camping and there just to kill players. as soon as he shoots the infected soldiers turn and run to him from 200m away or more. that will put more of a challenge in to bandits and non bandit players. If people find the game biring why dont they actually try to survive and not kill other players. why because the other player will just kill him because he is sick of being shot by every tom dick and harry he has tried to help.

little kid whatever. its an opinion. the human rights legistation has given me that right. so go take it up with someone that will feel insaulted insaulted. I do think that it is better that it is harder to find stuff but its just hasn't changed the PKing at all. WalkerDown I think I have had 4 murders in the last 2 months or so since I first started playing so I dont think I am a bandit. However I think that many people who are bandits will not like comments like this because it would mean they feel they are being atacked because they are bandits themselves. people really only care about things if it has an impact on them. so if u dont like the fact that I like to play to survive and not get shot for 1 bandage for no point then I think you guys are the ones who are killing people for no reason. I mean killing players is more fun then zombies but think if everyone urned bandit then you would start getting shot every few mins and soon get annoyed because everywhere you go there is someone wanting to shoot you for nothing. Malleovic if you dont get that saying you have no brain or thinking capacity Now think of all the people that have viewed this thread and read the comments and think hmm i agree with spawn but everyone is attacking him and if i comment supporting him they will gang up on me then too. when really thats just gutless. your all skinny or fat losers bullied at school who prob are still virgins if you think I care what you say to me. (keyboard warriors) Now before you all get the shits with me read this again ( if you think I care what you say to me)

Disgraced how old are you really. calling someone a child does not make you better. sticking feathers up ur butt does not make you a chicken. ur an idiot. now do you think games would bloom if everyone only wrote positive comments? they need negative to see what people dont like or what is not a good idea. correct me if I am wrong. bloody hell if you want to read only good comments your in the wrong forum. its an alpha remember. as for killiing new players. well so far thats all i hear on US2 right now. people being shot on the beach for their bandage. why? becaue they cant defend themseves and the bandits are getting what they want. I have heard 1 person say he likes it because its harder. and like i said many others have gone back to 1.7. now if you dont like reading negative coments to a new patch or a suggestion then dont read forums. games are not perfect its alpha as everyone has said

play it first what do u think i am dojng. I was just shot for no reason and lost my bandage my a survivor. lol bandits will kill people because they want a kill number. why else do they kill people for their food? lol Disgraced srry i dont think you read what i said read it again and slower. if you know anything you will understand. yes i posted it and others may have posted it. the more people who post the same thing or vote against something or for something things often get changed dont you know that. peoples opinions are important why do u think there is a forum for suggestions. u look like an idiot. go watch justin beiber not so much of a suggestion but its a comment regarding a change that was made because of suggestions. but something to think about and people to suggest a fix for it. its a forum. now if you read what i said someone can easily think ahh oh well maybe this would fix that issue or i suggest changing this back because the more team play idea has not worked and its still a death match game like COD with a few AI zombies

I think your missing the point of the patch. you missed it. how do you think the patch will improve team play? now I said how i think it will not and explained why. now if rocket reads that he may think ahh ok i didn;t think of that i thought it might push people to work as a team which is why I made the patch like this. I wonder how many others will think like this he will not be the only one. now sit in your chair and shut up really your post means nothing. its alpha yes. its like giving orders (They start as an Alpha for example) or doing a recon on an objective/area/target. you have to think of all negative and possitives. people will give their opinions and the CO or the Ops cell will make a decision on what is to be done. I did my part is a negative.

hmm clearly u dont know what I am doing. anyways there is 3 people on my server of 1.7.1 I asked what people thought of it in 1.7 and 40 other people did not have 1 good thing to say about it and went back to 1.7. so clearly your comment 1 against a whole server means nothing its posts like your that make the IQ of the human race look very bad. if u want to comment on my spelling I know I cant, old news I accept that

well if everyone thinks like that then its a perfect place for bandits to pick off unarmed survivors. in night no difference. NVG's survivors walking around with flairs as well. a big "COME HERE SHOOT ME I WONT SHOOT BACK" sign

clearly some of you cant read yes we all knwo its an alpha thats old news known since day 1. come up with something new. as for real life? where are the AI soldiers protecting these camps. in real life soldiers would be the ones alive because they have weapons and civilians dont. if they do soldiers while there is still order in the work have their ROE's (yellow and red cards) if this was any so what as a real life simulation there would be soldiers protecting the camps shooting us and zombies. you really think that civilians would live londer then the defence force? come on really. rocket if you served you would know that is bullshit. sure we would be dispatched and posted and sent out on patrols but what about HQ's and the VCP's or TCP's that would have been set up with coms to the CP. if you served and did any combat training you would know this is nothing like what real life would be. I know people are throiwing it around its not a simulation so they cant do things but they they say in real life there is no good or bad or bandits. stop contradicting yourself. dont blame me or others who know better because you have no idea in your fantasy world. you say myself and 10 others quit. 30 of your friends joined. what about the 25000 other people playing that also had 10 people quit. you think everyone one of them had 30 other people join and that these 30 people will play forever and not quit? I know one guy who loved it for a week then the game play changed and hasn;t logged in yet untill more patches are released so the concept of the game is not ruined for him. reading some of the people post here come on your as ass kisser ro the masses. individuality you have none. like I said i did enjoy the game while there was some sort of order in it. and not people looking to get the hiughest number of kills in the game. go play COD or something if thats your plan. how about surviving, getting a bus together, exploring. and defending yourselves from the people who want the gear you have and maybe take your bus afterwards. this means the people who want to kill people will join together to get the bus. this means others will join together to get the bus working. this means all round protection, obs on the loc, coms, and teamwork making the game have a gameplay. am I worng? yes its alpha but it seems that the whole gameplay part has gone backwards not forwards. maybe its all of the 13 year old kids with no pubes who listen to justin beiber and get bullied at school an feel they need to be a killer in a game which ruines it

mrducky good reply and same here with the playing. I only have about 40 DMR rounds left in chern and once I die i think i'll wait for the next patch. didn;t last long. someone invisible killed me with an MP5 scilenced

ok read some posts. and wil reply to some. I am australian for 1 and cant spell for shit I know and dont care. people who have been banned for hacking said they played for a week liek normal then got bored with the game because it had no purpose and its changed to a deathmatch. so they decided they would hack the game / mod and kill everyone on the ervers, teleport all over the map and kill people all day long. hack weapons in and so much more. what would you say to these people. maybe you didn't spend 3 hours playing it safe and working hard to get all your gear. then get kiled by someone who spawned in after being killed themselves with NVG's 50cal and all the rest and teleport behind you and shoot you. you have been alive for 3 hours he has been alive for 3 mins. does a game like that satisfy you? BASEDGOD guns rarely break? i doubt you have shot a gun in your life. i am not talking about a weapon like in the game. a real gun bigger then 7.62. if you say they rarely break how about you go ask the army how many weapons they have with a red tag on them. simulation? there is nothing about this game or mod thats a simulation. simulations are not fun thats why people dont play them. as for more realistic. I thought thats what people are arguing about this game that if you add factions in its not realistic. if it was realistic then the human race would last no longer then 32 mins. look at the average survival rate of a player in dayz. how many deaths do you think are from zombies. in a zombie apocolyps or whatever the biggest threat is zombies. not guys running around finding weapons in every house shooting guys for a can of beans they don't need. poeple say they kill people to survive. ok thats stupid. does a guy with a DMR, M1911 and full health need to kill a guy with an AK? especially if the guy is running away or a friednly? and blood bags are useless unless you help someone esle and if you do that they tend to shoot you so they get a useless kill point. 15 people quit? thats just I know. times that by 1000 all over the world maybe? guys who hack really get a life go to the gym or something, learn MMA. Eddie Silver you say there is only survival. hell I could get a backpack full of beans and sit near a pool of water and hide for 2 weeks easy and survive. does that mean I am the best in the game and I am playing it correct? boring. poeple want a goal. sounds like there are too many fat guys in here who dont have a girlfriend or any exp in real life situations. survival. I doubt anyone here knows anyone about survival. if you did your comments would be much different. Dogsbd: good post. The Wolf: people call this a zombie apocoilyps simulation. simulation to real life is what this is suposto be and I have read plenty of people here say that they cant add some things because its not like that in real life.. ur an idiot. Rocket: I was and am a soldier. boring 99% of the time? then you were a cook or something. authentic emotional responses? no one has them in this game anymore so the reason why you say the mod is there has failed. shooting someone who is helpless and has helped others and is a friendly person plays on your mind. in fact killing someone point plank who is a combattant plays on your mind. hence PTSD. I saw that in one update fear was enhanced. yes a more realistic emotional response but how about the after effect? fail. people saying its an alpha. duhh yes and how long do alphas stay aphas for. I am new to these online game things and terms because I am not a fat pale virgin who think I am the shit because I shoot people in games or have a good geared character. I work hard in real life and have a girl you all wish you had I think. I have been told games dont stay apha for very long at all before they are a beta. it was a project that rocket made who seems to be a bloody smart guy who I am sure many of you here wish you could be. Strongarm Steve: threat? lol you think anyone feels threatened? you are the idiot. expecting way too much. well the last two or 3 months I have been playing its changed. people claim its because its a simulation but rocket clearly said its not. so how about you call the 200 000 others out there its not and its a deathmatch game. Myself any many other like the mod Idea. its very very good but for people to play more and more its going to need more. Dogsbd another good post. the game contradicts the purpose of the mod in so many ways but they say its not a simulator but other say it is which is why bandits in real life dont change clothes or wear 1 type of clothing. if its not a simulation then add factions in. if it is a simulation then make it more as rocket said it is to be. you cant have half simulation have un sim. then its just like wow or COD Yak good post Cpt.Vilja good post. this is what is ruining the game as well. but ist Captain CAPT? in australia it is. WalkerDown yes thse are the problems. good post and think about the people that have quit and dont even talk on the forum. Virfortis good post. being killed for a reason yes I dont care if i die then because I will do the same to someone ele. but when I see a new spawn with a mak and I kill him. i think god I am a loser I am a epic gamer with my DMR killing someone who has nothing. just as well i have not done this. Virfortis good post again it seems that the only come back is the people have is that its alpha. thsi is not a come back or a shut down or an in your face harden the fuk up noob comment. we all know its an alpha it sais it when we download it. if you missed it go back to the home page you cant miss it. My point is that the game play has changed. and like many other people I have read here its all the same thing. killing people is fun but I only find fun in killing bandits or killing someone with sweet gear. otherwise I feel like a 10 year old skinny pale kit with glasses who wears a head set playing death medal in the background with a fully suck name like death bringer or something. a fucking pathetic nerd. luckily I am not this pathetic character who doesn't need to make myself look good in a game because I am a loser in real life. Rocket it is a bloody good mod mate. but it is in alpha and things will get changed we all know that and said that. but for many of us as you see its all the same reasons. I have started playing again now with the intention of dying in about 20 mins. I run to chern get a weapon and shoot who I think is hostile or a combatant. I have the ugliest weapon and no gear so when i do die i have lost nothing that I cared to collect. then I start all over again and kill someone else who is trying to hide in chern or trick people so they can kill them. but it seems that me doing this is pissing these guys who only want to PVP off. so sorry rocket if me playing like everyone else and killing people who are only there to kill others after they are on a killing spree pisses them off and they quit. good work on the hacker ban as well that was a must for those low lifes

yey logged in and was snipped within 10 seconds and I was crouched hiding in a tree line

suck shit hackers. now maybe I can kill someone with 60 5.56 rounds and not have them turn around and 2 shot me with a pistol. maybe now people wont use ifa red scopes and see me hiding in tents in complete darkness. woooot. DAYZ STAFF bloody good job. hackers really? you hack an alpha? really what kind of sad life do you live. spend more time in the gym or picking up girls or learn a trade.

there is no consiquesnce for killing another player in the game anymore. except you become a bandit and you look just like everyone else in the same clothing. making loot more rare will just mean more people will want to kill other people more often to loot their gear.

Wade_Parker yes that would make a purpose to the game play. and who knows maybe there is another faction lets say called traitors. they are bandits that hide as a survivor and steal from them and take it to the bandits. now bandits would have to be carefull not to shoot this guy otherwise they lose a recourse that is needed. that means that bandits who are known bandits will see him and tell him to stop and ask his buisness. if they think he is really a traitor and a bandit they let him through. but one thing for these traitors is they cant kill bandits. and if they kill a survivor they will have to to it where no1 can see them. but they have to be carefull they dont kill a fellow traitor

I used it as an example. in real life yes that and muchy more would go on. your post has no relation to this thread