CJFlint

I always think about the mosin and attachments like there everywhere yet no where haha

Every build I end up with a mosin with long rang, its my fav rifle. Its can be hard to find all the attachments, but I noticed some areas or building types a far better then others. Storage Garages(for ammo and attachments for the mosin), Taverns, School Houses, PD and Baracks is were there most common. Oh the big city center tower in Novo, walk in the empty handed and you can come out with 2 or 3 guns lol. Novo is the easiest it seems by far to find a mosin with and all the fixings, comp, long range, pu, paint, and burlap sack. That city has everything you need I sware, pistols all the civ gear you can think off...not any mil loot though lol. If I am ever a fresh spawn I always prey to spawn there lol. Best dam city on the map a close second is Cherno!

Look guys, if we want a game were people act like its a real apoc the devs have to add the mechanics for it. Like a moral type mechanic or even do like they did in the mod, were if your close to a bandit you heart starts beating... or what ever. Or start a group and buy a server were you role play. Otherwise there really no point in talking about it, there just isn't. Becuase on this forum there is 100s pages, of posts the are anti KOS, anti bandit, general players being dicks to each other threads and really it hasn't done any good what so ever to sway how players play this game. Players have not played one bit different becuase of those never ending threads, not one bit. Were just beating a dead horse. No one gives a shit. In fact since the .49 stable patch I have not used prox voice com 1 time, not once. I have no idea why people come here complaining about it, like they were expecting players to be nice to each other. No idea were this idea in there head comes from. The only thing I can think of is they watched staged DayZSA you tube videos, thats what they dayz was going to be like, which is a total falsehood. I know I know I'm the bad guy that tells santa is not real, but its for your own good kids. This game has never been a freindly game and on its current path never will be. Freindly players are rare. There no mechanics for it. I hate to sound too blunt, but its just true. You either adapt to it, counter it or your going to find your self really frustrated playing.

Many of us learned the same lesson you did. You prob doing every thing right too that's the crap part. But always remember there are tons of players who are down right dicks to people in this game. It the nature of the stand alone. I will repeat what I said in my last post and many others for that matter. 80% to 90% of random players are not friendly. Although this game has prox voice it is not really a social game, unless your in a group on team speak. It never was never will be. I'm not saying this because I'm a dick, or trying to be overly blunt its just the truth. I understand what people are saying on this thread. Why not act like its a real apoc. What they are saying is role play. If you want that sort of thing, maybe set up a group or something and server and role play. I'll tell you one thing though don't expect random people to be nice in dayz....ever. It just not the way this game works. We can write for pages on this thread it will not change a dam thing. You will log on a server and there still will be players that are dicks. Its built right into the mechanics of this game. There is no incentive what so ever to play nice what so ever...none. There's no global chat...nothing like that. Its a perfect storm of KOSers and dicks. My advice to anyone who starts off is to get over that fact and adapt to it. You will save your self allot of head aches by just expecting it to be that way. Learning to either avoid the KOSers and Ass hats or learning counter them. I think you find over time many of these "bandits" or what ever you want to call them, are really not the brightest in the world. Over time you will be the one wrecking there game lol

I have seen all. I will also say I have come across friendly players, and even traded things. They are pretty rare though. Most are not freindly once they get armed with something lol 80 to 90 % are not friendly and that's not a stretch. The reason why is there is no real rewards for being nice, or bad toward other players. Your simply killing there avatar which will result in a re-spawn. You really don't lose anything. For many they just don't care. Nothing gets harmed other then ones pride. So of course people don't play to be social. LOL Its a prefect storm for KOS. I am starting to realize many players who start playing the stand alone completely mis understand what DayZ is really like. They probably think about buying it and you tube it. Then morgan freeman, frankie and the like. It paints this picture of what dayz sa is like in there minds. But its a total falsehood, those are staged videos. Or there clips taken out of several hours of game play. But Its not what dayz is like at all. Then they come to dayz sa after pondering buying it and the 1st person they try to talk to shots them right in the face. Then they come to the forums and start these huge threads about how bad KOSing is LOL over and over. Because DayZ wasn't this Mel Gibson sort funny/tough guy world that frankie painted to be. It so true. DayZ SA has never been a friendly game and it never will be, get over it! Its really not a social game at all I hate to break it to people, unless your in team speak LOL We really need to move on. If you want to meet friendly players who play dayz...Join a clan or Team Speak group.

Sometimes clans will fight each other or even do joint ops, right now. But it would cool down the road to were they have maybe a quick fight mode, or something like hunger games, as like a side thing we could do.

DayZ is a surival, sand box, no safe zone, pvp, perma death game. Its a fact. Its just what it is. The minute you log onto a server, anyone and everyone is open season to be taken out by another player. Every where is a pvp hot zone. Light or high pop. With more survival mechanics added, cars, base building ect ect. It may make it so player focus on other tasks, but at the end of the day it will still be a no safe zone, pvp, perma death game. "KOS" I promiss you is not going any where. Get over it. Adapt. Learn ways to cut down on it hapening to you. Be smart, be a wolf not a sheep.

It already is like hunger games, in some respects. It would be cool if there would be more server options were you could set something like that up, as feature of the game. Almost like a type of server you log into.

I don't mean to sound like a harsh cridict or sound like a dick. But Dayz has a vary long way to go, vary. After checking out some of the next gen games like unity (holy crap!), they go some work ahead of them. This not being mean, its just the truth. I do think the great interesting concept is great though. I love the map so far, allot of different elements. It also makes for some really intense multi player...but I think that even gets hyped up. After a 100 hours or so of game play, that will fade. Some people don't scare easy. Also realism is really warped...and thats what there going for. Many of the survival aspects are either really exaggerated, or just not present. Same thing with marksmenship. I imagine much of this will be ironed out in the future. Many things will be added too. Saying all this seems harsh, I would not be happy with it if this was the final product. Its def not though But its not if you know the game is not even out of ALPHA. Its not even close to being done! And there prob atleast another year til full release. That's allot of time to balance fix and add allot of things. So I remain really optimistic. I really don't hold dayz to that high of standard or expect it to be super great right now. It is going to probably have many issues. Right now the devs should be given the benefit of the doupt, but with in reason. They have done an outstanding job so far. We should help them.

I think that the high cap vest and the gurka helmet WITH visor are the best in protection. They can take atleast one shot. I know for a fact the gorka helmet with a visor can take a direct shot, same with the high cap vest. The assualt vest....mehh.....maaaaybe....your gambling on that one lol My advice is if your sniping with the mosin and the player your trying to shot is well geared with helmet and say a high cap vest. Go for the legs. Then finish them off with a few more shots. Unless there out in the open and have no where to hide. The reason because it sometimes take a few shots to kill a geared player. By hitting there legs it slows them down a great deal, at least long enough for you to finish them. Its hard for them to move. Even if they have a morphine, they will have to go through an animation to use it. All this gives you time to preform the finishing shot or shots. Now if a player is not well geared, say he running around with a down jacket and civ back pack. No real head protection. You can down them with one shot, if it is placed right. But using the mosin has become harder in recent patches. Sway and breathing play a huge role. Longer range shots are harder now. So its not always easy to get these well placed shots. I'll be the 1st one to confess that. After about 500 or 600 meters, you really have to be on it with timing. Your avatar must be healthy. You got to have your range set, and breath. Sometimes my mosin becomes more of a supressive fire type weapon at really long ranges. Its like rolling the dice if I get a hit or not. If I don't, it will cause the player I'm shooting at to seek cover and rethink what he or she is doing. Which is not a bad thing. They almost never come looking for me, I think it makes them panic lol Back a few patches ago the mosin was just deadly, it was easy to shot people at really long ranges with it, up to 800 meteres. Now its much harder, it is possible though. Now don't forget DayZ is not 100% realistic, not even close. So maybe a 7.62 would go through these items in RL, but in game it takes a few shots. I try not to hold DayZ SA to, too much of a realism standard due to this. Instead I study the mechanics of the game it self. I use real world tactics when they apply.

This whole thread is really dumb. It really is. 1st and formost my 1st responce to person who started this thread was a joke busting chops...Becuase why would you post that? You cannot post stuff like that and not expect people to say stuff...I mean come on LOL In fact what really made it dumb is what came after that, not the 1st post or person who posted it. It really amazes the hell out of me. I have to admit I'm was slightly entertained by this whole thing. Do you really get all hung up on stuff like that playing? Its a GAME. It amazes me how sensitive people get on here, or are they...is there some other motive like braging or trolling. Only they know. But really!? Even the moderator shows up. Then when there playing its KOS time, force feeding people rotten fruit, being down right dicks to other players and cursing in TS..Although there are some people I'm begining to wonder even play DayZ SA. So give me a break LOL Im just not buying it. It seems like people I see in the game and SOME of the people who come to the forums are from two seperate planets. Regardless I'm done here, this is heading down the road of one of those threads of 15 pages of complete bs

No hard feelings buddy. My 1st post I was just jokingly busting your chops. I only intended on posting just that comment but of cource it turns into a debate...which be honest I didn't really want. But you really don't need to post players names on here. I mean how you like if someone did that to you. People pvp all the time and get shot and respawn all the time. If you really felt bad about find him on steam. Really there is no need for it on here. I veiw pvp in dayz like its a sport. If I shot someone or vs versa. Its nothing I feel bad about, and I don't even want the other person to feel bad about it. I def don't rub peoples noses in it. In fact if I die and I had a long life in game. I Celebrate it. You really should not feel bad about anything you do in this game. Its not real. And weird stuff happens all the time in game all the time. Things can get confusing too. Stuff happens. One time I was pvping in a group over at NWAF I was running over watch on sniper hill. Things went south and the guys I was with decided to leave the airfeild. Every one headed to K town. One of the people in my group got freaked out when he saw me and shot me right in the back...dead. He saw me creeping around though, he thought I was one of the people shooting at them Server reset. A monthes worth of mil gear gone....like that. I was not mad at all at my team mate...I did bust his chops though. It got really loud in TS...really funny. We all joked around about it LOL beacause like many things that happen in dayz, it was kind of funny. There was no bad feelings at all. 2 days later I was right back were I left off. So don't feel bad, everyone walks away...its really just a game.

I like having military gear in the game, but it should not be easy to get. But to take the out of the game all together....thats lame. Whats funny saying this I always gravitate toward the mosin. But much of the gear I do like. I love the AKM but prefer the long range of the mosin. Last month when I started my current life, I had an AKM and mosin but had to drop it in an emergency. You do not want to be on the recieving end of that thing lol Between the AKM, hi cap vest and gurka vest it kept my avatar alive in some really hairy encounters I otherwise would not have survived. There asome items. Quit hating. I think many of the folks who say they don't like the military gear, is becuase they were victoms of KOS. Or they were at the recieving end of an AKM, 101 or M4. Or they just drop dead suddenly didn't hear a thing, cause someone was on a hill with a mosin blended in. They don't know how to counter it, so they come here to the forums and ask for it to be nerfed. There also the same people who don't take the time to go across the map and loot the military spawns. Its too far for them. There also the same people who cry hacker every 5 seconds. Hey don't hate on those of use that do take the time to find good gear and live long lives. Its your own fault you die all the time. I don't see a problem with military loot, just keep it on the bases. Rarity is ok by me, but altogether...thats dumb. Make people have to risk there necks getting it. I do. Make people have to work hard to get it. Why take them out all together. We are aware that DayZ came from a long line of military sims, and came directly from ARMA2 LOL Right? In fact the map you play on is a direct ref to the map used in ARMA2. So ARMA 1 and 2 spawned from the operation flash point series which have been around 2001. All military sims. There not going to take all military spawns out of this game I promiss.

Just don't do stuff like that. I would never do that. Its just bad taste. Why else would you do that talk about shooting them mention one of there names if it wasn't to brag? I don't think he does feel sorry. Its not about emotions trust me. I got over the whole feeling bad for players thing after being KOSed my self enough times to know, its just what goes on in the SA. Its part of the game wether you like it or not. But if you do feel bad, well thats ok maybe your not cut out for shooting people in a game. Or some there may be legit personal reasons too...thats ok too. I really dont think thats what this is about.

LOL you serously a coming on here saying sorry for shooting player's in game....hahahahaha....geeez....then you bring up his or her name.....really? someones either feeling guilty (ITS A GAME), OR more then likely the case is you want other players to know shot people sort a what you want appear as un intentional bragging .....you tell me It really amazes me....really does how big of deal players make about shooting other player in game....its kind of dorky...lighten up its a game On anygiven night if I pvp with a group sometimes 10 or 15 players will die around me, there have been times were I taken out multiple players and got shot my self in one sitting. Who gives a crap. You really don't have to do that....infact don't... Really!?

Overtime as DayZ SA moves from alpha to beta, then release we will see players styles differ even more. There will be more mechanics put in, and more options. I expect player and play styles to become even more diverse. I expect we will see this more and more. Right now the game still has a way to go.

I try not to knock other peoples play styles. Theres no rules, no score card, no steam badges, no anything... So sucess in dayz is really what ever you think it is. Dayz to ME is a survival game. I play to survive as long as posible and if I come close to death part of the challenge for me is to pull my avatar from certain death. I also enjoy pvp, but I prefer to win and don't play to die. I don't go into it thinking I'm going to die or someone is going to kill me at some point...its fail...some players say, "I don't mind dieing, lets got right in there". Then 5 minutes later there shot. That's a fail aditude and a resipe to get your self shot and have to respawn, then regear. When I pvp, my aditude is I'm going to make the other guy have to respawn, and I'm going to live. I play careful. That's just the way I play. It's one of the reasons I tend to play solo, becuase most don't play the way I do. Really most players never survive more then a few hours or a few days. I try to survive as long as posible. Thats fine what ever floats your boat. I go for longer periods. Quite a few time I kept and avatar alive for over a month, playing on low pop, meduim pop and high pops...dosn't really matter. I learned to trust my own instincts 1st. But I don't normally knock other players play styles, as long as they are having fun and not bitching. If your enjoying your self, regardless then thats good. Bitching about stuff thats really not bug related, turns me from a really excepting person, into a harsh cridict really fast. Some player play just for intant grad pvp, some play to survive, some play to troll people, some play to bandit, some play to hero and the list goes on. Theres even players who are complete hermits that play. I think thats what makes dayz is there really is no right way to play. This what makes dayz cool. Wether you sucessful or not is wether you satisfied when you play and are doing what you set out to do in game. So I don't think we should be judging so much, unless it is really clear someone is doing something wrong. But for playing the game a certain way or having a certain play style, well it set up that way to have game play freedom. So why knock people for pushing the limits on the game engine. They are designing it to cator to game play styles.

You will get it, and don't ever think that you suck. Most players don't live more then a few hours, some a few days. I would say your dealing with the game pretty well. I'm a long term survivor. I have survived for over a month quite a few times. In order to survive for a duration you gotta get a good kit. Something will get you at some point though. Just expect it and prepare for it. What I do is always were as much protective gear as posible when I enter towns or know pvp is likely. Gear like the high cap vest and the gurka helmet. When Im out of towns I were the bonny hat. I carry medical supplys bandages, tons of rags, any kind of meds as much as I can find. I carry 3 water bottles norm. One my current build I have 2 1st aid kits. Shit tons of ammo for what ever weapon I have. A pot is an asome thing to have, you can carry 6 pieces of meat and it only takes for slots. Fire axe. I have been alive for about 3 and half weeks now, came really close to death 2 times, to the point were was seeing blurry grey. One time from a close quarter pvp encounter the other from poisoning. Managed to pull my self out of it both times.....the reason.....I had a good kit. If I was poorly geared I would have passed on, and had to respawn. I have to say each time I pull my avatar out of certain death and recover completly, I get quite abit of a since of acheivement. More so then killing other players. Although good pvp is a blast in dayz. Also other things to think about is the game is in alpha phase. So theres things that are out of balance, and mechanics that just don't work as well as they should. Every time they do a patch read the notes...known issues and so forth. And look out for them when you play. Its smart to do that, other wise you may run across a bug that will screw you over. Also go to DayZTV and check out the map like Cptn_Miller was saying, its a great tool. It has all the info about were things are, you can even figure out ranges with it.

When I 1st started playing it was easier then it is now to be a new player. There was no weather effects and you could gear up quicker. Also the zombies were easier to deal with. Now days even if your a veteran player it can be a challenge to get geared up and survive. Between the weather heath effects, zombies that are a pain to deal with and loot being alittle harder to come by, it throughs out a few roadblocks. So you have allot of challenges to over come. So its harder for new players more then ever now. The 1st thing you need to do is find food, and something to fight the zombies with. Tear your tee shirt into rags and get rid of the flashlight. The battery I would keep incase you find a melee device that needs them, like a cattle prod or stun batton. Your tee shirt is useless, other then making rags to stop bleeding with. Look for some sort of weapon pref an fire axe, or wood cutting axe. Every thing else is less effective against zombies. Aim for the zombies head, try to circle them to avoid being hit by them. Look for first aid kits, food, back pack, water bottles, matches, axe clothing and a knife. You need these basic items just to survive for any duration now. If run a across a can opener grab it, if not use your axe or knife to open cans with. Once you find these items, either obtain a log by cutting down a tree and keep it with you for building a fire. Also craft a fireplace kit. Try to keep the fire place kit and log with you. If you lose it you will have to cut down another tree, which really degrades your axe quickly. There is no other way to warm back up other then building a fire right now. You can also use you fire to cook meat with if you decide to hunt. If you do not have a good start on this with in say 30 mintutes and you still cold and hungry....your chances are not good. So get it done as fast as posible. Try to find a gun as well, that may take alittle more time. Once you have your basic survival items it becomes easier. So I will say it dosn't surpise me to hear a newer player saying what your saying. Honestly every thing you spawn in with is pretty much useless, I normally toss everything except rags from my tee shirt and the battery. I have no idea why the devs give us what they give us as a fresh spawn. Its useless. I also keep the pants until and shoes til I find something new. Normally with in 10 to 15 minutes I don't have anything I spawned in with anymore, and have close on that I found. Edit: Don't trust anyone you meet randomly in game either! No one! They have nothing you need and for the most part are not going to help you or look out for your best interests. Most players are dicks to each other, were talking about 80% of them. Not kidding. So if you want freinds to play with join a clan or play with a steam freind. If you do meet someone in game, watch there hands at all times. They pull any crap or tell you anything misleading or if you get anykind of bad feeling about them kill them or flee. There are tons of KOSs that play...tons. Theres also players who love to set people up, and pull crap with you. Real dickish type stuff goes on in this game.

God dam you guys are way off topic. Sound a couple 3rd graders. I got kicked off this forum for less then that. Serously. Dont piss off kichilron, or he put you on a tee and kick your ass right off the forums! Now lets simmer down and get back to this ironic hipster beard idea.....emk....its a great idea :beans:

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I would be ok with your idea, but would prefer it happen over time. But the more options the better. Currently our avatars look clean cut.....I think they should look rougher. I think it would be cool to have you avatar physical signs of survival over time. Beards are one, you could ware it as a badge of honor. "See my long beard! This means I have survived for a month! Were yours!". Also physical signs of health too. If your sick, you shoud look sick. Body language and all. Gosh the way I see players play these days, It will look like a hobos and meth heads running around LOL....but it would fit the game.

Signed! This should be added We did this in the service. It works, it was all something you had to do before patrols. Still yet to see this added to a video game. I think this could apply. So I think it should be one more option. One more tool in the tool box you can use to give your self a slight edge on other players by being stealthy.

To hear this doesn't suprise me. I think the devs are tweaking stuff on the reg. What you discribe reminds me of the weather effects hot fix they did right after .49 hit stable. It was just bad lol. The game is heating up thats for sure. If you are geared up and heathly, you got even more of an upper hand on players who are not. Mil loot I noticed is getting more rare. My new policy in regards to DayZ is to only expect so much with realism and every time they make a change to slowly dip my toes back in the game. On my new build I have been playing on the last couple weeks, I have survived on meat. I always have a light green energized bar allot of the time. Now sodas and can food I can get solid. Its harder to stay energized surviving off the land it seems.This is dif since prevous patchs.

My GOD this thread is still going.......Wow....9 freak n pages, all because a guy could not find any food and his avatar kept starving. Prob kept logging in on the same server, that was more then likely persist. Then out of frustration starts this epic fail thread, which started off with some decent advice.... Jeeezzzzz..I'm speechless. We gave the guy about the best advice hes going to get like 7 or 8 pages ago lol well at least we had a good photo shop picture to kick off this thread.