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I would say 2 slots, but more ideal I think would be to have it cliped on to the back pack like you said. Kind of like how the fish hook is with the booney hat. Yep yep about the same damage as machete. I am kind of a surivalist nerd when I play dayz. Even though anymany ways .50 is better then .49. But loot spawns were rarer in .49 and the weather was colder making harder to survive in. The weather effects were kind of crude though, but I got a taste of what the finished game maybe like and I liked what I saw. It created some interesting fun challenges I wasn't even ready for at 1st. I grew to like it after a while. I was forced to hunt and build fires, not becuase I wanted too, becuase the game made me do it. I was forced to plan out what I was doing more thoughtfully. That is what I want to see more of it in dayz. .50 I love the new items, there great. But theres so much loot...sounds funny to complain about. But it takes the challenge away from surviving. Caveman gear would be asome. Would be pretty cool, to just walk out in the woods, and not some what, but completly survive off the land. Its getting there, but theres much work ahead. Tool making would be asome to see. Stuff like sticks to create fires. Spear fishing and the list goes on. Would be asome! It would also really add an more apoc feel to the game. Citys should become weathered and rundown I think, even more dangerous, loot spawns much more random. You want gear you have to face danger lol other wise try to make it out in the woods lol

Aww the E-Tool! I think both of us suggested that on sep threads. You suggested it 1st, so its all you. Regardless I fully support that item being added. It can cut, you can use it can be used to fight (vary effective) and most of all dig with. Its also pretty small when its folded, and what better add for dayz.

This is vary true. Death really is always going to happen at somepoint in this game. Its one of the reason I pretty much gear leaning more towards function vs looks (which does end up looking kind of cool anyways). I try to select gear that really works for what I need it to do. Like you said you have exp the game, and exp you do end up dieing at some point. My goal is to survive as long as posible, but something always gets me at some point LOL....its just the way this game is. But as far as the forums goes. I sorry to say, Im really tired of it, its just not worth it, someone always trys to derail it. I really don't think one eye even bothered to read my 1st post. He may have not thought the way he did if he did. Instead he asumed things and put words in my mouth(one thing I really don't like), Im sure hes probably a nice guy. I really was just trying lighten up with a joke which normally works anywhere else. I was not trying to insult anyone. Quite honestly I just didn't feel like bothering with another dumb debate, I changed it and left it as a joke. I really try to stay focused on real exp in the game when I post here, and things the really do regard the game. I play this game allot and love it. It dosn't seem to work sometimes, infact much of time. Infact maybe people should not get any advice and have to go through the school of dayz hard knocks...Maybe that part of the exp as well. The person who started this thread is going through something many players go through. Its kind of a tough game at 1st, infact its vary hard at 1st. Hes playing gearing up to what he thinks is prefect, then dieing right away on a high pop. I know how that feels, it kind of sucks....infact it really sucks. The 1st time you realize this game is perma death. To survive at least a while is so much better. What kind of amazes me about the forums sometimes, is people have played with in the game in team speak have always been good, sometimes vary funny and positive. Its rare that I don't get along with people. Most people I play with on team speak are really thick skined and love to joke around...both female and male....The forums its vary different its like night and day in that respect. I'm being really honest.

Dont try to pretend now like your some how have the high ground. Its going to remain public becuase you made it that way. You putting words in my mouth the whole time...serously you are. Its frustrating. The 1st post I put up was to give there person advice and help him out. It really was. He clearly seemed to be in a rut. Hes spending allot of time gearing up then going on a high pop and dieing right away....I know how not to let that happen...I do. It really is crappy to have that happen, to gear up for several hours just to get shot in your 1st attempt at anything on a high pop...we both can aggree to that atleast. It really does suck, its a bumber. So I gave him real advice, so atleast he could survive for a while, and enjoy playing with his "sexy avatar" for a while. He may have posted the thead in a joking mannor but he needs help. So what do I get for it. My words twisted by you, and told not to give advise. May have been harsh advice but in the long run he would be so much better off following it. Its just the truth. You know why I changed my post? Becuase I serously didn't want to get into a word twisting debate again. Serously was the reason. I just said screw it its not worth helping this person out..hell just have to go through the school of hard knocks...here we go again. I figure I would just turn into a joke and leave it at that. I wouldn't even have come back to this thread if you didn't say anthing...I was totally going to leave it....I really was.

WOW!!!!!!!!! Insulting people it was ment as a joke! Jeeeeezus WTF did I ever say gear matters skill dosnt???? Really...your putting words in to my mouth!!! WTF? Your serously putting words in my mouth..Theres nothing more that I hate on the forums then that. The only reason changed what I said is I simply decided I'm not giving advice anymore. Im just not. NOT becuase YOUR RIGHT dont kid your self buddy. I'm sick and tired of getting into stupid debates with mis guided people like you here. Im finding more and more its not even worth it. You wanna suck.....great.....less asshats I gotta worry about in game. I finding more and more becuase of people like you, there is zero benifit of me helping anyone in this game, expect freinds in this game, or trying to teach people in this game....none. Between people like you and kosers/asshats in game pretty much me turned me into a really mean spirited player in this game unless your my freind. I tried the hero thing....dosn't work you get back stabed, tried helping people dosn't work, I tried giving advice to people who clearly don't know what there doing like the person who started this thread (What forums are normally for, but not this one)....theres no point...Im done with it....so you know what...keep dieing in game and keep sucking at it. Why do I want you to be good for, your probably the guy kosing people anyways. Speak for your self budy with this getting shot by a "pantless puff jacket wearing face masked guy with a Sporter .22"! What in the hell are you talking about! Cant give advice, cant joke with people and cant suggest things on this forums, because you end up having to debate with some word twisting mis guided person. Thats what I learned.. theres no point. I'm just going to goto dayz tv for now on and the wiki. Its the worst I have ever seen here.

Was just thinking and a light bulb went off.........the .51 exp has human meat......I can live off of other players avatars in game...... :o ...Maybe I really shouldn't try to help other players anymore, instead live off there avatars in game...and why the hell do I want to make them smarter for?? The dumber the better! :beans: hmmmmmmm...........emmmmm yummmmm bambi stakes........ya fuck it never mind what I wrote..... :D :thumbsup: You just keep playing that way.....good job!

Your right, know what I changed my mind, not worth it! Let him play how he wants....I need nooblets to graze appon now....yumm yummmmmm!!!!!

WTF are you talking about? Let me guess your a troll or just an ass hat? Try alittle harder, at least make it funny. Never even played COD...Wha Wha What?

Hi, Most players in DayZ stand alone are aware that in 3pp you are able to in some cases look around corners, and look over walls. To some this is not even an issue, to others its a minor issue (me), to a few some its a huge game killing issue. Regardless its the source of many long winded thread here on the forums and could fixed in a way keeping everyone happy, and not effecting game play that much. A simple mechanic called "dynamic camera" would correct this "peeking expliot" issue. When you walk up to a wall or large object, the camera zooms in, so you cannot look around it or over it. Almost like the camera sinces prox, and moves accordingly. Many games have this feature, and I think it should be prefect to be added to DayZ as well. This would pretty much cure the "peeking expliot". People who enjoy 3pp view would not loss it, there would just not be the "peeking expliot" anymore. Thanks!

You said it in so few words walter! I gotta get out of my wall of text responces lol

Nevermind what I wrote before....nice avatar......man oh man I'm hungry.....come on over here for second go ahead and climb in that pot over there and close your eyes! :D

For me this bug is rare or bugs like it or rare. In the begining of .49 stable (over a month ago), I fell and broke my leg on the rify ship. When I landed I was inside the 3d parim of the ship, with a broken leg. Really bad lol I was stuck til I died. Luckly it did not take to long I also fallen of a ladder and died monthes ago. To me its so rare I don't worry about it too much.

If this Asher person is indeed a troll....I would say try at least making it funny next time, or slightly more entertaining. I have a feeling hes just someone who saw the hype and didn't really learn about the game before he bought it. Probably a younger fella. Who knows maybe dayz will grow on him. But don't go dissing on him too much, I want him to keep playing. Because when .51 hits stable, I will need a cash crop of asshat meat to eat. People like him will keep my avatar alive through the winter. :beans: hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Oh jesus chirst! They really added it to the exp....hahahaha They look like deer stakes too hahahahaha Im going to survive off of asshat meat once .51 hits stable! Wooooo Hooooo! My mouth is ah sarvoring!

It would level things out, well at least for some people. I think for me it never really made that much of diference playing 1pp or 1pp/3pp servers, really other then having vis slightly restricited in 1pp. Its more of a perf for me then anything. I never really thought there was any adavatage either or. But the peeking thing has got allot bad over blown attention here as being an expliot. Some people think its huge issue. This could to get rid of that debate for good! Also there allot of us who like 3rd person, not becuase theres some advantage. It has no adavantage other then you can see your avatar which tons and tons of gamers like....Not all dayz players are FPS exclusive players. Infact the majority of dayz players are not. Thats why out of every 100 servers theres only like 2 1pp servers. 1pp exclusive players are a small minority, most dable mainly in 3rd and sometimes play on 1pp. Becuase I really strongly don't think 1pp exclusive players will get catored too anymore then they already have in the life time of this game. Don't even bother betting on it. AND what I would like even more, IF and I mean IF this were added, is just maybe we can move on from it and by god just not talk about peeking anymore....How about that! It would also improve 3pp view with a cool dynamic cam....they really are pretty neat. 2 birds with one stone! Win Win

Well I have 3 fav parts of the map. Just NW down the road form sinistok, the road goes from paved to dirt. At the end of the dirt road there is a house. I alway go past there when in transit and stop. I don't no why I just like that area. Just to the south there is a forest really cool forest. I also like the forests in the SE part of the map. Its also in a nice central location of were all the action takes place. There animals, and plenty of water sources there. Cherno and the settlements around it is my fav city. Novo a think is a really close second. Polona is a great little town. It does have really good basic loot spawns and a water source. I passed through there and always would stop.

Hi Asheville, Just reading what you posted, makes me really think this just maybe not be the game for you. You don't like waiting and want action right away. Your not into simulators it apears. Its ok....it isn't everyones cup of tea. Go play Unity or COD, or one of the other instant grad games. I been playing black flag, thats a great instant grad game. You really should read the game reviews and discriptions before dishing out money though. Like you, I will be the 1st one to admit, I really not always in the mood for dayz. I also just dont feel like going through the motions of it. So I just play other games. Nothing wrong with taking a break either. Keep the game fresh and interesting. I'm also vay unemotional when I play games other then just pure humor...So sometimes dayz to me becomes.....well boring sometimes LOL I dont get the fear reaction from playing dayz, or really get a huge thrill from it like some do. For me its the concept of surviving a post apoc in a realistic manor I like, I also like the unforging pvp. Makes it more realistic when you know the cost of losing is really high. So maybe if you liked some of it just take a few days off from it, maybe read the wiki. Then come back. Happy gaming :thumbsup: B)

The 3rd person view would still have the view it self, just not able to look over walls and around corners while close to them. Some consider it an expliot some an advantage. To be honest when I 1st started playing dayz, I was already used to 3pp view being like that from playing arma and ofp. I never cared. But it has become an issue to some people on the forums, there are many who view at as an expliot. I kind of tworn honestly, but think dynamic camera would silence that debate. Simply doing away with being able to look around corners and over walls using the 3pp camera. A dynamic 3pp camera would do this and preserve 3pp view.

Thats cool....Well at least it was an entertaining picture :rolleyes:

Indeed I think it would be a fix "dynamic camera", that would be hard for even the "Hardcore" 1pp players to complain about. gibonez brought up the name for it "dynamic camera". The over the shoulder view, I think is really just it not a good fix. Infact really just 1st person view, slightly disimbodied. It seems like its just something to cator 1pp "hardcore" players who are clearly in the minority. I define the peeking issue as a vary minor issue. It really only is effective for close quarters, and even then it not that effective against exp pvpers. Other then that it dosn't help players that much. I play this game all the time, some times I take short breaks but play quite abit. I also play with other players off and on. Clans and small groups ect. Talked allot about the game in team speak, while going point a to b. I honestly don't recall this "peeking" issue being brought up, or this whole 1pp vs 1pp/3pp crap. Not once. I think really its just an issue that has become totally over blown here on the forums alone. Minor issues like this become totally over blown here. I think there 2 reasons for it. 1) Egos. The hardcore server tag went to peoples head. When the servers said "hardcore" it made feel like they were "hardcore" for playing on them.They feel 3pp are not as hardcore as they are <_< ...as dumb as that sounds its the truth. 2) Frustration with the game. Dayz is really a really unforgiving perma death game. You die you have to start all over again. I think to some people its hard for them to take. They get upset even freak out. They want to blame there in game failures on something, this issue def is one of them. I'm not kidding. You been on team speak and heard someone completly lose there shit, freak out and start blaming there game failures on every thing else expect them selves. These are the same people. You see you have to clense and filter the forums of bs. Becuase some of the best player I ever met playing this game never brought it up. Were talking people who play both server types. Becuase its a not really that big of an issue.

I really serously cannot believe how much tention there is between 1pp players and 3pp players....it really amazes the hell out of me. Honestly I can give a rats ass what your preference is. I played serveral hunderd hours in this game, and play both server types. Sometimes I really wonder why I play it so much. I prefer 3pp simply becuase theres more options on servers. Never really saw that much of a difference or even cared really and I simply can't believe how big of a fucking issue people make this. 1pp servers do not require anymore skill then any other server type. I play long enough to know that. It just hype! As far as the peeking around corners 3pp expliot...its a highly over blown issue. Really it only an expliot in close quarters. I have never been shot becuase of it in a long time...simply becuase I lisen for audio ques too. I able to tell if player are there wether I see them or not. If here foot steps, doors, opening, ammo clanking, ect ect ect. I know a player is there. So you best be still. I also look for other ques players have been around. Agroed zombies, custom loot just laying about and the like. So the likelyhood of you catching me off guard is slim. So if your careful, and watch and lisen everything like me peeking is really not going matter as much against you. Its been monthes since a player has shot me without me knowing they were there. Months! Normally I get shot in gun battles. So to me its not even that big of an issue. Infact the last time I died in game I shot the guy right in the chest 1st. He was vary lucky. I only had a mosin at short range. He had an AKM and survived it and was able to return fire while I was reloading. He sounded like he was about to shit his pants in prox voice, said he was sorry lol. I responded back, "don't be I was trying to kill you dumb ass. You vary lucky". Why be sorry lol its a game! Dont think he heard me though becuase my avatar was dead. I was completly calm, got up went to the frig filled my pint, had a toast for my fallen avatar. Even laughed a bit, I was amazed I lived that long over a month. I feel I went out like a fucking champ, and felt good about it. Hey something is going to get you in dayz at some point, that is why I'm sharing this. I proceeded to play black flag the rest of the night and has a nice rest of the night. Then next day I began gearing up again. That was the only time I died in pvp, in almost 2 months. I really dont die in pvp that often to really care about petty bull shit issues like this. I think the people that make this such a big issue are people who die all the time and want something to blame it on. Fucking 11 pages now guys!? Are we all playing the same game? The fix to the "peeking issue" is a dynamic 3pp camara, NOT over the shoulder view. With the dynamic camera added when you get close to an object the camera zooms in so you can't peek around corners. SIMPLE problem solved! Quit Fing wining about it!

I guess that what its called a dynamic camera! Yes exactly like that! This is what would correct much of this, and keep everyone happy in regard to this debate. This would cut down a great deal on anykind of expliots the are in game and preserve 3pp. There also still is some places were viewing through walls is still posible, they should iron that out too.

Ok well. The best bet is to just add a zoom feature in in 3rd person when you get close to a wall or larger object, were this expliot takes place? Could you agree to that. I could. But I'm really not sure I like the whole over the shoulder view thing, that seems like it would create a host of new issues, including player prob would not like it. It seems like fixing something by breaking another. I say only restrict vis were the expliots take place, like when your close to walls. So you cant look over them, or around them, by zooming in. This isn't even a new idea, infact many other games have that sort of thing. The orginal post sounded like he just wants ALL 3rd person to be restricted which is lame. At that point, it may as well just be a 1st person shooter. This goes against the grain of all OFP, ARMA and everything that came out of those engines. I really don't want that in dayz. If I feel like 1pp, I log into a 1pp server period. If I want 3pp, then I will log into a 3pp, were it is 3pp, not watered down 3pp. I like the to have options, not dumb limits added. So were not totally not disagreeing. Infact I do think there is a problem, its more of the solution that I dont agree with people on here. Infact I can understand why SOME 1pp get frustrated, theres really not allot of servers to chose from. Thats not the devs problem though thats something that the comunity needs to figure out. Infact most people on this thread said that it wasn't the view it self, it was more of the expliots that bothered them. Well theres a better way to correct it.

You know I read through some of the posts on here, read through some of the debates, and really think there are 2 things wrong with 3pp. Honestly I think are blown WAY out of size too. I don't seem to ever run into problems becuase of this. 1) Theres still the seeing through walls expliot in some cases. This needs to be fixed even more. I havnt seen it in a while but I have heard other playes run into it. 2) Players are able to look over and around walls, this can be fixed just by having the 3pp zoom in close when you get close to a wall. Simple, many games have that. No need for the over the shoulder view. That idea is completly lame, would never support it. The problem can be solved in much better ways. I really think the majority of players who play this game would not want to be stuck in close up over the sholder veiw either. From my point of view. I think even those 2 problems I listed should be low on the list of what I think needs to be corrected or fixed with the stand alone.

1st off dont come at with this rude "WTF" crap. You wanna talk to me show some respect....son. Well tell me why they havn't fixed it yet? Almost 15 years since the 1st OFP, how come the havn't fixed it? Because your in the minority thats why, most like it the way it is. I don't remember people ever complaining about it like they do on here. And you didn't even read my post on how to fix it right up above. To have it simply zoom in when your close to a wall so ya can't look ever it. If they would just do that it would give you "Hardcore" LOL nothing left to bitch about. I hope they do fix it so it does zoom in and you can't look around walls. Then the rest will be up to you. The rest is just lack of 1pp servers, which is more of a comunity problem. Becuase it really is up to us players to put those servers up....hate to break it to you.