CJFlint

.51 is pretty wonky, dont really care for this one that much. .50 and .49 I thought were decent though.....seems they rushed .51...My game crashed a few times, I also got a few errors were my steam lost connection with dayz.....all servers disappeared of my list. Not sure if that was a steam error or becuase of the new build. Just based off past patches I predict, this one will be wonky, prob the next one will be alittle better, then after that it will work great for a couple patches, then rinse repeat! Just a guess though.

More power to ya, if you gotta do it then you gotta do it. I have had to eaten cold food of all types, same with just about everyone, sure as fuck wasn't ideal. I'll tell you what I much more prefer my food is cooked. LOL this brings up something...I secretly always wanted the to add beer, wines and hard A to the game....your avatar can get typsy...to deal with the hellish zombie apoc world....I'll tell ya what If I had to live through something like an apoc, I would prefer to be half snokered most of the time lol Winston Churchhill was completly plastered all through WW2 ya know

It is, its really only for meat and that is it. Nothing more...yet. Infact right now I am about 100% sure a fireplace kit is the only reasonable way to cook. Becuase the gas stove is buged were it burns food. It will be nice when they get around to fixing that. Who knows when that will be......they prob have a back log of issues to address. But yeah could you imagine having to eat raw rice? Fuck the stomach pain you would get from that lol. Our avatars eat like complete shit! LOL A freak n cold can of beans.....or bacon....may as well be eating dog food. Or a slightly warm can of soda.....water out of some pond with green water lol Fuck that would suck.......the only thing I think sounds good to eat in game is stakes.....animal that is. We are sooo spoiled....there is prob some guy in a war torn shit hole quite contently eating the way our avatars do....no way to live lol

But you lost your flashlight though! :o .....

You know this thread reminds me of something. There is a type of gamer known as a collector, the person that wants to collect every item in the game all the badges ect ect. I done that my self in the past with other games, and have with this one, but realised its not really worth it early on, unless its quick and easy. Theres nothing wrong with that in some games. I think for many people thats there 1st instinct when they play dayz...they look at the wiki or dayz tv or what have you. See all the cool items, the proceed to go out on a looting easter egg hunt. Sometimes spending days and days on it, not even having a plan of how they want to play or even what kind of play style they want. They get all geared up from head to toe, then at the blink of an eye lose it all. Thats when hopfully the light bulb goes off and the player dosn't get ubset and just realises by god dayz isn't like other games.....this is perma death. You have to shed that collector mind set when you play dayz...its just not how this game is. I guess we all prob been through it at some point with the SA. Dont get me wrong there nothing wrong with wanting a good kit, but really you have to know that something is going to get at you some point. How much is enough really. Are you going to be crushed when your avatar bites it or is it going to be just something you except. I celebrate when my avatar finely keels over, if he has had a long life in game LOL

LOL yep I heard that you can die riding and that thing, it makes a ton of noise and quite frankly I think its easy to get shot right out of the drivers seat LOL It amazes me how much hype this stupid fucking truck gets.......like its some magical thing. DayZ mod had cars, planes, boats....helocopters........Man they been having cars in this line of games since 2001...They add a half done one to dayz sa and evey one about shits them selves with excitement. Thing does not even work right. I still prefer to walk....lol Also I never hoard that much shit, well not anymore, persist kind of works, it wipes every wens. So basicly your better off keeping everything on you, I basiclly carry everything I need to survive, blend in and to fight effectively with....no more, no less. I def don't stock pile really there no point....well....exept food and water..and having all that high end shit on your avatar.....man you die its going to be a big blow....unless your a dupper...sounds like a resipe for disapiontment..The reality is you fully geared like that, you better be good at hiding, think tacticly at all times and hope that when people see you they get scared, your able to have the fear factor, becuase a more exp player you may as well paint a target on your self. Your like a walking ATM to them and they want what you have. Don't forget that...players are either way more hostile toward you when your geared up, or they just run. You have to be well......overly careful...allmost takes the fun out it. Its so easy to lose all that shit, and not be able to recover it..even more so when you can die from game bugs too. You only stash for a limited time....so WTF is the point?

shhhhhhhhhhhhhh...........those are loot glitch servers..... :o............ ;) ;) ;) ........

CHEEEEESE BURGER!! I will say I would like to see abit more of a complex 1st aid system....of course some things cant be that realistic....like breaking legs.....I sure players don't want to wait months for there avatar to heal...so with in reason yes. A play style that I think is valid is a medic, people do play that style. So I think it would be cool to see more options. But you know with in reason, this is a game don't forget. I think your idea would have to be tested to see how works in the game....but all thats hypothedical.. Its sounds like it would be cool, but how well would it work in practice...

Yeah true :D Exactly! You know what patch I thought had the perfect loot count......was .49...shit was rare...so regardless it leveled the playing feild, evened things out...no nerfs needed....We were freezing our balls off but god dammit it was a good challenge.....Weather mechanics were abit wonky but after a while it grew on me. I think it just needed a little tweaking .50 either there was too much loot or too little lol The weather system was def more summer...I liked the patch over all it really was a good one. Now the "hackers" boogie men are gone...so I really think they could balance the game better by adjusting loot count then nerfing stuff....I really hope that nerfing and just flat out taking things away.does not become the new norm. I also think before anymore mechanics like zeroing or windage gets added, fix the stuff thats already there, and put some of it back the way it was...

Yep....I think the worst is when devs and game companys lose connection with there base...you know what I am talking about you have seen it too. Dayz SA I think is not as bad, becuase there so many streamers, people on the forums ect. But still theres a large number that say nothing. I see signs of this type of bs though...I really do. The one thing they got going for them is this alpha....but you only can use that card so many times. They should be really careful when it comes to forums feed back too....I am not joking there are many who cry nerf, becuase of the own selfish short comings. There on this forum...I seen them. You have to be able to tell, legit gripes from just BS self centered QQ. Heres the thing there are times when stuff really is out of balance, and stuff needs to get toned down....I think the devs should be careful with this though. I will admit the mosin did need to be toned down a few monthes back, but not as heavy handed as they did it. If you shoot a geared player, to be really honest its allot of times you just wound them. It just the truth...KOS my ass try WOS LOL. You know .51 I pretty much cofirmed the devs are cracking down on a play style....which I dont like. The ghillie suit was added (super duper rare to find netting) and they took out more camo options that were easier to ubtain for overwatch players.....This stinks. So really there not doing anyone who prefers scout/sniper or over watch playstyle a favor by adding the ghillie suit and realeasing .51 in its state. In fact they nerfed our play style even further and to cover it up a little they added the uber rare ghillie suit....you will have better luck finding a smersh vest or a M4. I kind of feel like this play style is under attack. Zeroing windage ect ect....again I think if it were across the board, it would be a good add. For every weapon that is effected by it. Thats really the only way I would go for it.

Yes they do. The LRS scope and PSO are most effected I think, becuase there longer range. My hot key is page up or page down....lol its by 100 meter each...if that tells you anything about realism...lol pretty simplified...but its a game. What I do is use the dayz tv map. So like if for expample I deside to shot out of one the APT really building down cherno...the ist thing I do is figure out were exactly I am on the map, then start measuring distances off of serveral land marks to get a ruff idea of ranges...that way If I see some one I can set my range on the fly with out having to dick around with the map. Now with the range finder, its just a matter of you aiming it then pressing F and it will give you your range. Then you can set your scope. When sway was added your sights move around allot, this effected even more by avatar health and shooting stance. So you gotta time it just right....much of the time you only wound players...if there able to run off. Sometimes you dont hit anyone, thats not nec a fail though....they are supressed by you shooting at them....they become really leary. Geared players take 2 to 3 shots too take down Im not kidding. Last time I shot a geared player I fired at him 4 times, so several hits, honestly I did not stick around to see if he died. Prob did....who cares. I also love to shot animals from really far away I will confess, its kind of fun, but sometimes I cant find them to get the meat off of them :D Back a few pathces ago, the mosin was just deadly, it had no sway, it had the bi pod....I mean you could post up some were and cap like 5 or 6 players in one session. It was OPed and a one shot deal. Now your lucky to wound someone.

In the RL its adjusting you windage and elevation...when I was in the service we all had a personal rifle issued, each time we "zeroed", windage was setting that that varyed from riflemen to riflemen and we marked the iron sights with a pen...each riflemen and the rifle settings was different so, you always used the same rifle..no rifle was the same, they all were slightly different..When it comes to realism, we could be opening really boring not so fun pandora box, of techical specs. Becuase the reality is high powered rifles are complex, its a sceince. But this is a game lol so that will be going to far.....so dayz I don't think wind is even a factor in game yet. The mosin currently requires to figure out your range either using they map, or using a range finder. But wind currently is not a factor. So really the only thing you have to worry about is range......dayz guns as far as function and mechanics are really simplified and in some cases unrealistic compared to RL..To be honest....do we really need them to be completly realistic? I don't think so.....dont forget about the fun factor lol My agrument is if your going to add zeroing and stuff like windage, it has to be across the board, not just targeting guns like the mosin. LOL it would cut down on KOS, becuase most kosers arn't the brightest, they prob will not bother trying to figure it out. LOL

My concern is becuase of all the "KOSing" which I will admit, is sometimes pretty out of control...and down right mean. Many players who are victoms of KOSing are get pissed about it....It really its kind of a dick move to shoot a player that really is posing no threat. Your just running around minding your own biz and bang "your dead". It causes so much QQing. I'm worried they will limit the hell out of guns like that, becuase of KOS ass hats. They reality is these people who do this "KOS" are normally armed with guns like the AKM or M4. More skilled players prefer the mosin in reality. I agree the mosin is not really the most ideal long range rifle in the RL. But really its the only one in the game right now, and untell the add a new one, I don't wanna see it nerfed any further until the new rifles come into the game. Looks like the CV is getting a scope and the new alaskan rifle is coming as well as the SVD later one....I think. I just hope they dont limit the hell out of it compared to every thing else. I would also be fine with zeroing IF it aplys to ALL guns that it would have an effect on...I would be just fine with that. Meaning guns that shot over a 100 meters. But the longer range it will have to be taken into account more so....thats fine.

I am pretty defencive about this subject, becuase if you remember the mosin basicly got 3 direct nerfs already. Bipod was taken away, sway was added (although not a bad thing), then the damage nerf. Also the fire axe can not be painted anymore which is a camo nerf. Also the mosin rap was taken out, which is another camo nerf targeting players who use the mosin. The added the ghillie suit yes BUT its like winning the loto geting one...most players dont even bother...So yes the devs are def trying to limit the abiltys of the overwatch or "sniper" style players....There zero doupt in my mind. I pretty much been running withe the mosin almost every life in this game, since I have been playing it, it def has been nerfed a 3 times already directly. Also 2 indirect nerfs as well. It in my eyes as been already heavy handed nerfed. The reason for this is simple, QQing. Its the people bitching about hackers and bitching about these sneaky "snipers". So they water down the game....so what next....after the mosin...what will we bitch about then and have watered down to cator to our self centered short comings? AKM players...sks players? Then what after that ? This type of shit wrecks games....I have seen it happen. Im not directing this at you, I understand what your saying....but I see how people respond....more nerfs..The only way I would be happy with this zeroing idea is if it applied to ALL weapons....every dam one of them...were it would be a factor.

I think the LRS, PSO and PU....along with the super rare m4 scopes should be left as is. Although rarity is a whole nother debate....But no nerfs.....lets not even get into that bull shit were, were nerfing and balancing shit all the time....if it really needs then do it....otherwise stop complaining about it. I hate have my game dumbed down and nerfed.....saw this patch nerfed camo, can't paint fire axes....mosin rap is gone....all because the ghillie suit was added...which most are not even going to go after. So really we took one step forward, 2 back ward....Its true I played a game MMO game once that started catoring to forums nerf this nerf that QQers once, they started all these bull shit nerfs every patch....the game went belly up after a year of that. Then sony dropped it, now there barely clinging on to life. The sad part was the game was really a rich epic game for the 1st few years..it really was..The silent majority packed there shit and left quicker then you can blink when started in with the BS nerfs.. The reason is the people on the forums were really only a small % of the huge base many of them did not rep the base as hole, only there own selfish short comings ..the scary thing was the devs starting taking them serous......and when you start catoring to bull shit you piss off the silent majority...its true. Quite frankly I never thought I say this, but I starting to see the same thing here. I can see if these scopes are all over the place......or like before when the mosin had no sway, and there was no damage nerf....and it had the bi pod....thing was deadly....but not now..come on really? It takes more then one shot to kill a reasonbly geared player at range with it now....with sway...thats not always easy....not like players that like the mosin get a free ride.....Give me a fucking break with this shit! I hate nerfs when there just not needed. Hey guys, they got rid of the hacker threat for the most part.......so WTF now "snipers" or over watch players are the new boogie man on the forums? Really? Guys serously hang in there private shards are coming....with that the bandit crap and kos crap will go down. No need for the nerfs. I really starting to think kos ass hats need to tone it down a notch. Fuckers are the ones causing all this QQ!

Seeing that this game takes place near russia, kind of a eastern euro / russian style one!

Dayz is for me so bad that I dont even bother with direct chat anymore, unless I am hailed 1st. What determines wither I shoot you or how react is base off what your doing and your stance. You gotta gun in hand your sneaking around....I will shoot you. No gun, you better not get to close budy! If you say your freindly and you have no weapon, I will say hello and ask that we move our seperate ways. Dont come any closer then 10 feet pal. Keep coms short, no mis-leading shit, no stupid ass jokes, or you'll respawning on the coast. I will put your ass on a Tee and kick your ass right right back to the coast!!!! You will be tasting my shoe laces! No I don't need any thing from you and you sure as hell aint taken none of my crap! Move along chump before you make me nervous! >:( I'll be keep n eye on you!

Maybe there should be real CPR were you have to do both... I'll tell you what I'll sign off on both your ideas for the pure sake of realism. :beans: :thumbsup: How about that! B)

That there was a mishap....let it be a lesson to ya.... :thumbsup: Shit happens in dayz though....it just does....just move on and try to learn from it. But serously crazy shit and complete bullshit like that happens all the time. The only thing you can do is try not to let it happen and be prepared for anything. Last build I by accident almost killed my self........by eating a raw stake....I just wasn't thinking and ate the wrong one....I got sick really quickly and almost died lol. Recently I fell off a ledge and broke my leg in game too. Ruined my boots but becuase I was prepared I quickly fixed the situation. Its going to happen. Someone is going to shoot you, a zombie is going to hit you from behind ruining half you stuff, your freind my mix you up for someone else.....ect ect...Just expect it to happen, and try to cut down on it is all you can do...Be prepared.....I carry to 1st aid kits on every build I do now.....filled with bandages....ect ect. everything I need to pull my self from certian death....1st aid kits to me are vary important items to have.. Be careful when you play...you really have to in this game. Life in dayz is really fragile and kind of cheap in the world of dayz.

There is quite abit of food really. I found in its all about were your at on the map too when it comes to hunting....seems some places no animals spawn other there all over. I found in the SE and SW theres always animals running around. I wanna try traping both fish and rabbit....a couple things I still havn't done that yet. I def would like to see more stuff on the trees, also plant life that can be used as well. The more craftible items and survial mechanics the merrier I say.. I think they should add more to the immersion and atmosphere the surival exp in this game..sights and sounds. Lets put some boats in this game! Through a couple more islands in too, that you can survive on if you want.

Thats good news. For me in .49 I would go through an animal pretty fast. Last patch I did'nt hunt as often.....The weather was warmer and there was so much loot everywhere, I just didnt see the point. I think in .49 the cold played a role in me wanting to hunt.....a fire was duel perpose. They change up mechanics so often its hard to keep up with. As far a survival goes I think .49 was def the most interesting for me anyways. It forced me to do things that norm I would not do in game, and settle for things as well. Loot was not every where, in some cases hard to find and it was really cold. I think that build or life was def one I will remember in this game...I really pushed that poor avatar to the limits. Really interesting game play....the mechanics didn't always work right through that patch....but it made things interesting once I adapted to it. It was one cold hard winter in the SA LOL My current build has been alive since the begining of .50. It was not as interesting, it almost seemed well to easy after all that lol. I thinking I may go back to living off the land again...it was fun. Its good to hear the meat lasts a little longer. But I def want to spice it up with some pvp though....keep things exciting.

Interesting play style. So are your pretty much solo? or do run in groups? Do you prefer just not seeing other players? In .49, I decided to try suriving completly off the land....hunting for food, fishing.....ect ect. It is completly posible. But there is a hitch. It takes allot of meat ot eat to stay energized. I remember having to hunt an animal per session, sometimes 2. So much of my game play became either group pvp 50% the other trying to find animals and basicly trying to keeping my avatar with 3 green bars....which for me became easier over time. I also learned to carry at least a log around with me, chopping down trees wares the axe down quick. So its best to re-use the log. I remember liting atleast one fire per session....sometimes more. I would go through at least 5 to 10 stakes a day. Thats to keep my 3 green bars....so that play style will consume your time playing. So basicly in the past couple months I have had 2 lives in game only...I dont die that often. The life I had in .49 I survived much more off the land, and honestly my avatar was vary lucky to survive over a month. I can thank the ghurka helmet and highcap vest for that....due to the fact my avatar was shot, and attacked by other players more then once and was able to survive....good gear. I hunted allot in that build, every single day. My latest life I spent most my time in .50....loots was everywhere, so I did a more balanced play style. I hunted sometimes, but also collected cans of food. I guess food and weather really effect my play style too. But its cool to see other players that shoot for long term survival and really try to do it...Theres many players that dont bother and they just play to pvp.

.51 I presonally do not care for some of the changes. They pulled the mosin rap, what left is completly bugged out. Also wtf is with making the fire axes unpaintable? Seems to me they added the ghillie suit, which takes forever to get the peices for.....most plays prob will not bother with. Then nerfed the camo that was already there, that honestly many player liked...I don't like that...its dumb. I rather just have it the way it was before. They basicly also put a uncomplete truck onto stable...I lump this patch in with patches like .47....just kind of half done....wonky...not so fun. But I know its "Alpha" and I have grown used to just not playing patches I dont like, at least not that much....I'm pretty much sitting this one out. Not even worth the frustration, not worth the time....I'll just play other games and wait for the next one. As far as OP issues. It almost sounds like that might be server realated....try logging into a server with 70 or below ping.....

Oh Im with you on the real life uses. LOL but this is a game though, were the avarage life span of a player is less then 2 hours. This def not real life. Also I say this again, I never said no to the idea...In fact I said it would add realism......I stated I know dam well players will use it for other perposes, that have nothing to do with CPR...and its a GAME And let me tell you something, lately there has been some weird posts on here and weird shit going on in the game too. If its a joke I like it. But to be honest there are some people that I really wonder about.... Infact Cheesburgers Herbal remedy idea is pretty solid, that one I would like to see.

It was ment somewhat as a joke....somewhat...I said I would not be aposed to it, if you read what I said...or at least not fight it. But yes seeing and hearing some of the weird shit players do, it def would be used for.....well more weird shit. Not just what its ment for lol Your not saving anyones life in game either lol, your saving someones avatars pethedic life whos avarage life span is less then 2 hours. Yes thats right the avarage life span in dayz is less then 2 hours. So If read what I said, I basicly signed off on both your ideas, I just know one of them........well prob will be used for weird shit too and not nec its attended perpose.....you can bet on that one. Also isnt chest compressions already in game?