PineappleWolf

Why would civvies be heading to helis? Civilians do still own helicopters and planes, albeit small not heavily armed to the teeth versions. News Helis, private Helis, Heli Tours, aviation fanatics, etc. Plenty of raisins for people to have aircraft.

You realize my boat thread is a joke to point out how stupid the helicopter threads are, right?

I'm lazy (says the guy who retyped a post).

Did you snipe this from my reasoning with separate parachutes? Regardless, I think parachutes would be an interesting idea, and base jumping/hang gliding even more so. Jumping off of some high point on Green Mountain, or off a plane/heli, gliding around over the ground. Or y'know, find a cliff. Honestly can't think of a high but open area high enough for gliding, but hey, perhaps some bigass cliffs could be added to the map, and VALLEYS.

I actually typed it out again, copy pasting on these forums gives you that weird black background effect that inverts your text to have a white background, at least chrome does it.

Optimum, good sir, your post is missing. On another note: My response to this issue: http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/195391-please-say-no-to-boats/

How are they bad for gameplay and immersion? No pilots or manuals survived? And bitch please you don't even know how bases are going to be constructed, even then, the first versions of bases are underground bunkers. You have no idea what you're talking about. Also, back up with fucking experience. Have you flown a helicopter on standalone? No? Shut up. Have you flown a helicopter in the mod or a mod of the mod? Even then you're still probably referring to one of the many easy god cheat whatevertehfuck servers that run rampant and not vanilla game play. Most of this thread is just whining about how they're going to ruin shit, you haven't even tried them and have no idea how they're going to be. Do any of you have any PROOF OR EXPERIENCE to back anything up other then your own opinionated bullshit? To the ones who think cars and any type of vehicles are immersion breaking, that's illogical, mechanics most likely survived and I'm sure with all the car-maniacs someone would be able to fix a damned car. Anyone who opposes vehicles/helicopters with out legitimate factual reasons, no opinionated bullshit, is just being a whining bitch who doesn't know what they're talking about. Other apocalypse type games/shows... Walking Dead: Cars, a tank, and former military members had a lot of armored vehicles, which were a RARE sight in their new world, and I think I might have even seen a chopper, in fact, didn't one crash? Fallout: Fallout 2 you help repair a nuclear powered muscle car. New Vegas probably has all sorts of transportation, let alone Vertibirds, used by the NCR/Other Factions. The Boomers even rig up an old WWII bomber to use. Fallen Earth MMO - You craft your own vehicles eventually, which takes forever, and they are eventually faster/different types keying in with the larger and larger maps you get access to as you level. Left 4 Dead - You travelled around off screen in numerous vehicles, from commercial planes to Military Helis to cars and boats. I have an idea, instead of bitching about Helicopters, lets bitch about BOATS. Fucking OP Boats ruinin' my immersion.

I've played the mod before, though the most recent was Epoch. On that note, Epoch does contain features we'd like to see in the future in SA and makes a good comparison point. Base Building, storage, lack of cheese.

It is time for my fruity opinion of the matter. After having played Epoch with my clan mates, I would like to share my EXPERIENCE on the matter. Rather then just listen to half of you bitch for either side not bringing up any points/experience (most of you). Now, from my experience with helicopters over the past few days, I have come to this conclusion: I don't know how to fucking fly these things, so I'm going to stick with land vehicles because I keep crashing and/or worst. There doesn't ever seem to be enough ammunition for these things, even with traders in Epoch, people just don't seem to actually focus/use these and rather spend their money/effort on other sources,they're mainly a form of fast but fragile transportation. When going on NPC bandit raids that come in the form of random events on our server, they would land their helicopters far fucking away at risk of being shot out of the air.One of my clan mates tried to see how fast/"go faster" to a location in a Helicopter, it decided in turn to flip the fuck over and crash into the trees killing us all.TLDR -> Helicopters aren't flying tanks of death (unless you crash them), they take some ability to even fly (which I lack and thus stay far away from them, but others fly with ease), and they would not fly low/land near any NPC events at risk of (albeit aimbot NPCs) of being shot the fuck down in inglorious death. I think you're also thinking its far too easy to get these things, I've ran across four helicopters over this week, both which needed a shitton of work to get going, and one was the one I mentioned above flipping and crashing when attempting to go faster. Though this was EPOCH, with trader merchants in which he bought a shitton of parts after selling off some of his armory. By comparison with what I assume would be in DayZ Standalone, aka having to manually loot through towns and finding these parts, and then GETTING to the helicopter, using what I assume would be carried over, a tool box. On that note, perhaps we might need to even have all these random tools in our inventory to use? I've seen pliers, wrenches, screwdrivers in game. Perhaps we'll have to collect these tools this time, and put them into a tool box? Pros of a Helicopter: Fast movement - Able to bypass land based obstacles. In the air - possibly a more difficult target(If Armed/Can shoot regular weapons out of): Possibly able to provide some aerial cover fire.Cons of a Helicopter: Loud - Can be heard from distances before its even in viewing rangeFuel - YOU HAVE TO LAND SOMETIME TO REFUELBest places to land are clear flat areas --> Anything else is trouble/deathHave to level correctly before parachute attempts, otherwise fuck up rotors/break heli(If Armed) Need specific magazines/boxes for any attached guns. Good luck finding those, or have fun loading the chamber every ten seconds while flyingYou have to find parts to fix up the Helicopters to use/maintain them.Look @ Pros, Look @ Cons. Helicopters only provide aerial support/view, and/or faster travel opportunities They're loud and noticeable, and bitch please when they land to refuel jump those bitches. For that matter, when they land/hover to drop people off, jump those bitches. People would have difficulty landing some of these helicopters in say, a fucking forest. Pro tip: Why is your super secret hidden base in plain site in a big open area? I can't even fly helicopters let alone land them nicely without major difficulty On the note of Attack Choppers/Armed ones, where you think you gonna get that ammo for them MGs or even find the magazines/boxes to hold them properly? They are already supposedly planning to tone down military grade gear, and already I barely find M4 clips/ammo outside of military bases, unless someone died or left them there. Y'all think you're going to find enough ammo, and not to mention whatever kind of storage device the guns use to hold the ammunition, in abundance for these helicopters? For that matter, I'd like to reiterate the annoyance of FINDING THE PARTS to REPAIR/MAINTAIN said things, especially when people are probably going to be popping you all if you get close enough to shoot. DayZ right now is a KoS fest, you think that your precious helicopters will be safe? On the note of items, perhaps you have to find Parachutes now instead of having them? Hope you got a chute equipped or you're going to have fun times with gravity. Also, we don't even have land vehicles yet, stop freaking the fuck out. /End of my Fruity Opinion. -Pineapple Wolf

You know what we're missing, or at least what I think we're missing? Cool caves! Caves that go underground, caves that go through mountains, random ass caves. Caves. Caves are cool, and hey, maybe a nice spot to take refuge if you're out in the wilderness?

Any gameplay mechanics made for fluffyness are a no. Did you even see the drawbacks of all the fucking abuse? Oh wow, you can't shoot them... Good for them, they can run in, have god mode, and stalk people so that the rest of their group and come in and brutally slaughter them. It's just fake bambi baiting but the bait has god mode. Regardless, zombies aren't a threat, players are. You basically want some invulnerable whiner to be able to run around with a group, unable to get kill unless he somehow glitches and dies, and probably either store all their good loot, or save their shit for when someone else gets their head blown off while the snipers are wondering why the hell this beret guy is invulnerable? There is no PvE or PvP, only survival. You're also in the wrong section of the forum I'm pretty sure. Edit: What did I do to fuck up this post?, why is it WHITE? Edit of the Edit(MattLightfoot): Fixed it for you as it hurt my eyes