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Their interchange is considered safe by the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute (SAAMI)

"the .308 Winchester has become the most popular short-action, big-game hunting cartridge worldwide" "Although very similar to the military 7.62x51mm NATO specifications, the .308 cartridge is not identical, and there are special considerations that may apply when mixing these cartridges with 7.62×51mm NATO, and .308 Winchester chambered arms. Their interchange is, however, considered safe by the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute (SAAMI)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.308_Winchester

an FNX with a torch is a useful thing in many places (carry three mags) http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/198189-whats-the-gun-you-like-the-most/#entry1993788

^ very neatly done - should be in a "how to" xx pilgrim

If you use Recuva you need to do it as soon as possible, or the 'deleted' file will start to be overwritten - the 'deleted' file space is marked as empty and the PC starts to use the space for whatever purposes associated with that logical drive. So more or less any pc activity may overwrite the file locations rather soon (it's still there after deletion, but the operating system has flagged its locations as available to be written to).

moral reasoning: various currently prominent theories http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_reasoning

cool, definite class

In fact "common sense" or "heuristic reasoning" is only one of the methods available to the human mind to reach conclusions that can be acted upon. The other method is called "logic". It is slower and more difficult to employ, and is used less often, but provides a higher percentage of correct solutions than "common sense". [ya see how smart I am?] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Familiarity_heuristic

I like "unconscious" - is that easy and where did you find it ? I have an SKS and a cloth cap.

Let's be reasonable about this - I like the 'gun people' - so forget insults or invective, let's not all shout, and I'm sorry this is long: Chris Torchia said, quote : "those of us who are real gun nuts" - so he's classing himself as a gun nut. Obviously he is not against 'gun nuts', he is one. He shares gun nut interests. He is also a game designer. OK let's put those two things together : In DayZ SA there are a number of important game elements. These have been discussed, been implemented, or are being worked on.. etc. They include ... movement (swimming, climbing, running, stealth), stamina, weather, hunting, fishing, cooking, foraging, medication, illness, infection, injury, temperature, shelter, crafting, concealment, camps, vehicles, repairs, maintenance (clothes, equipment, transport), zombies, melee, loot, respawn, map features ... And that's not all of them. But all of these are vital to the way the game plays and how 'hardcore' it is and how 'realistic' it is. We can agree on that. None of these elements has been given (so far) the time and detail and attention and focus and weight that has been given to guns. So the 'gun nuts' are doing very well at the moment, in alpha - and after all, the only reason to have a wide range of guns is for pvp. There is no reason we NEED automatic weapons or advanced sights of ANY kind, in a zombie survival game. One solution to 'gun realism' - (which I am not suggesting) - is to take OUT all the automatic weapons, all the sights except iron sights, and leave the gun nuts with the remaining weapons as they stand in the game now, this would not harm pvp and would not harm 'survival', Then there would be no argument about calibres and the Devs could concentrate on the MANY other important features which are being developed and refined. If all the other features mentioned were brought up to the current level of realism of 'guns', this would be an in-depth fascinating hardcore game. The gun nuts (bless them) seem blind to the other elements of the game, they want massive gun realism, and many varieties of guns, so they can play at pvp (no one wants a big complicated collection of modern realistic military weapons to shoot goats, I guess ?) Chris Torchia is a 'gun nut' (he says) but he is not blind to the other elements of the game. This is his job. The gun nuts have plenty of stuff to keep them happy (and to complain about) already. Why should development concentrate on their (very small minority) absolute-reality fanaticism about guns, instead of bringing ALL the REST of the SURVIVAL game up to the same level that 'guns' has already reached ? I think there must be as many medical people playing SA as real gun experts - ask them about needle calibres. They will explain that a syringe and needle used to inject antibiotics is TOTALLY DIFFERENT from a needle used to take a litre of blood. The two needles are not interchangeable. However at the moment they are not shouting about it, and are not putting up long strings of photos of medical equipment. Even though (of course) health is a lot more important than weaponry in any REALISTIC survival game. So gun people - we all understand your concerns and your great love of accurate gun simulation (we all like 'realistic' gunfire properties in the game) but EVERYBODY KNOWS (including yourselves) that a shitload of guns is not the key to an excellent zombie survival game, it is only interesting to elite pvp gamers. (I mean Leet, dudes) You have forgotten, maybe, that in the Mod, there were long arguments about the magazines for the AK74 and the Sa58, because in real life they are NOT interchangeable, but for better gameplay they could be exchanged in the game. But - be honest - how many of you really stopped playing because of that ? Are you still here ? You complained a lot, and you ran around with engine blocks in your backpacks complaining that the magazines were unrealistic, but you didn't stop playing. So please don't look back to the 'golden age' of the mod where everything was 'realism' (except the truck engine in your pocket) and complain that SA is being simplified for the "mass" and the 'pvp kids'. It is not. You yourselves are simply "gun nut pvp kids" - and I have nothing against you for being that, you want a "realistic" military fantasy. That's cool. But recognise that you already have plenty of good stuff to play with, don't insult all the other players, and understand that there are MANY areas of the game that should be brought up to speed and refined, before you get your special chocolate cake with icing. Don't have a tantrum about it. Making SA into a Leet military fantasy for a small minority of players would REALLY be the thin edge of the wedge. Chris Torchia IS a gun nut, ask him about the practical aspects of REALISTIC PLAYABILITY because PLAYABLE REALITY is his trade. xx pilgrim [ note: in the mod we ALL ran around with engine blocks in our packs, so don't take that as an insult or a gibe. But don't please say "that has nothing to do with guns" - of course it does, everyone knows you can't shoot with a truck engine on your back ]

^ this

Do the characters In The Walking Dead have infinite food? I guess so... they are always running out of fuel and looking for medical supplies - but food ? where DO they get enough food to feed everyone every day ? (maybe they find cans in houses) ?

first person to report communicating with a stranger by radio, as far as I know beanz

rain reduces visibility range also - so at the moment this is an advantage (isn't it?)

ok sorry I spoke - it's just me and the US Army who disagree with your ideas about how folk shoot each other in wartime, then. But I'm sure we're wrong, let's drop it. I would like to ask one question - HOW MANY different guns do you (gun) people envisage, in total, in this Zombie Survival game ? Just a ball park figure please ? xx

"Following the end of World War II, the U.S. Army conducted studies of what happened in the war and how it was actually fought. Research found that most combat casualties caused by small-arms fire took place at short range . //. The research found that aiming was not a major factor in causing casualties. Instead, the number one predictor of casualties was the total number of bullets fired." C. Taylor The fighting rifle – A complete study of the rifle in combat, ISBN 0-87947-308-8 "During World War II, an infantryman with a rifle at an average engagement distance of 300 yards under combat stress expended 10,000 rounds for one hit. " US Army Project SALVO [ OK - how we going to be realistic about that ? ] -edited -

I was talking about BOOTZ dude, what makes you think I was talking about ammo? lolz

when are we going to get realistic shoe sizes in this game instead of this unrealistic ridiculous "one size fits all" kind of CoD mentality ?? Everyone knows REAL army boots come in a RANGE of sizes everyone KNOWS if you have small feet you CANT wear large boots and EVEN WORSE if you have LARGE feet you REALLY cant wear SMALL boots does nobody UNDERSTAND this ?? I find the game totally unplayable due to the unrealistic FOOT SIZE stupidity situation. We need to have at least TEN different boot sizes or this is nothing to do with REALITY. I have given up playing because I can't stand running about in definitely the wrong sized jungle boots. Do the Devs think this is Battlefield3 or something.?? AND the other 2 MILLION PLAYERS all agree about this, obviously, this is why they keep getting KILLED by zombies, because they cant RUN properly. The zombies are the only REALISTIC thing in the game and they are DEFINITELY more realistic than the players who cant even tie their bootlaces. Is this a SIMULATION or What. ?? I can't stand it. I'm going to add a really long string of blown up photos of FOOTWEAR from Eastern Europe and NATO as well as some HOME MADE footware MODS, some with leather straps and some with buttons and some with VELCRO and some with the standard 2.56 mm bootlaces. So you can see the DIFFERENCE you bunch of CoD nerds. Get real. And also Jungle boots SMELL different to combat boots or trainers. What's wrong with everyone ? xx [sweetness and light]

It was like this in the mod - the gun people were running around with 2 wheels and an engine block in their backpacks complaining that the AKM and Sa58 magazines shoud not be interchangeable.

does this mean when you break a leg in the game you walk round with crutches for 3 months ? hey, and morphine doesn't cure a broken leg in the real word - don't try it !

ah ok - another gun thread.. see their AK: Welcome to The Glambo Signature Series "Hello Kitty" HK-AK-47 click image to enlarge The world should note the hand-crocheted shoulder-stock muffler and the anodized titanium plating. This fully functional firearm fires standard 7.62mm 125 or 150 grain ammunition with a muzzle velocity of approximately 710 meters per second and a maximum effective range of approximately 300 meters. Several choices in stock wood are available. With a limited run of only 500, buy now before they're gone! A mere $100 extra includes Glambo's signature wood-burnt into the opposite side of the handguard. xx pilgrim

you digging for worms or you just clubbing them to death ?

blanket - very common and has multi-use

3 guys all with silencers and ACOGs on M4s how likely is that ? (how honest is that ?)

does vomiting work ? if it does (or to find out if it does) drink water till you vomit. then build up your energy again.