hannibaldaplaya

Agreed. Though, if you just have like, melees, and I'm there, yelling at you, "FRIENDLY?!", I'm probably not going to shoot unless you're threatening my loot. If you have no weapons, I will take you in as my apprentice, and we will look under zed skirts together.

A) Are not attached to your loot, and don't really care that you lost items you can (currently) easily re-obtain in a few hours. Finding an M4A1 is incredibly easy as long as you don't get shot going to get it, because it is basically the only military rifle in the game right now. B ) Retaliate against your attacker and actually kill him / her. Hopefully you can actually get to the corpse and loot it before his / her friend shoots you in the back! C) Enjoy a good gunfight, which is always fun, usually. D) Learn your lesson and decide to never run straight down an airfield or run straight towards a high risk high loot area. E) Can relate to the person who shot at you, because really, in a world like this, wouldn't you do the same if you're in a military camp or something and some guy toting a rifle is walking through some tents that may have stuff valuable to you? Oh, also, remember, a punch to the head can knock players out, (which imho is stupid as hell especially when you have a ballistic helmet + gasmask on) which makes you and your unarmed fists surprisingly dangerous. F) Also realize the only thing to do once you're geared up is to shoot other people. D) And a thousand other reasons. Though I don't KoS, there are obvious reasons to why people KoS, with number one being that other people KoS, so people who get KoS'd end up KoSing. Domino effect, basically. KoS will be less common when theres more to do, don't worry.

Right now, this is melee- You click, and you swing, in a specific motion for each melee. Its better then the mod, but it is still really simple, and with the weaker melees ( such as the Baseball Bat ), killing a zed is possible but frustrating and if you get a single lagburst, you're going to take a hit and start bleeding. If you don't have an axe, you're going to be circling, strafing, and moving to hit a zed. This isn't particularly realistic. If I have a Baseball Bat, and I hit a person or a zombie, their should be either a knockback or stun effect. A zed shouldn't be able to tear open my leg right as I hit with a bat, or a crowbar, or anything else. It feels cheap when I get hit while I'm bashing at a zed with a melee weapon. Also, don't say that this is because melee should involve lots of strafing- In games with effective, realistic melee, you don't have to do this. How can melee be made more interesting and / or realistic? First of all, knockback / stun effect. When you hit another player or a zed with an actual weapon, they shouldn't be able to instantly retaliate. They should be either pushed back, prevented from attacking for a short moment, or knocked down. If I hit a zombie with a baseball bat hard enough, its going to be pushed back or knocked onto its back. Secondly, a shove attack. This would be very useful. Instead of swinging, you hit another button, and shove the zed or player in front of you, which would either stun it or knock it down. This would be useful, as you could take out singular zeds with weak melees by shoving them down and then pelting them with the melee. This is also realistic! Thirdly, charging up swings. Basically, you charge up your swing for a bit more damage. Imagine you're sneaking up on a zed, looking to take it out before you loot a building, or the zed is running towards you. You hold into the attack button, wait for it to come, and then release, dealing a harder swing / hit. This is very common in melee systems, and would be a nice addition. Basically, I want melee to be more effective. It feels a bit clunky currently due to the fact if you do not have an axe, you're going to have to utilize circling tactics to kill any zombies. With an axe, though, you can slaughter everything. OH ALSO I KNOW THIS IS ALPHA NO ALPHA SHIELDS PLEASE THIS IS JUST A FRIENDLY SUGGESTION / FEEDBACK <3

No safezones. Safezones ruin so many games, because they usually have a GLOBAL INVENTORY (bullshit) FEATURE which encourages loot hoarding. Instead of being careful with what you pick up and what you take off of a dead person's corpse, you literally take everything, run to the safezone, and store it. In a few days you have a whole fucking armory. Yes hordes. Because hordes.

But pushing them down is way too infrequent..

I'm always friendly when I have a melee or something simple like an M4A1, but if you catch me with a Mosin, I'm usually a lot more careful and will either just hide from you or kill you, especially if you're armed. If you only have a melee, though, I'll keep my eye on you. Basically, it all depends for me. When civilian / hunting rifles are more common, I'll probably be more friendly with those, because right now the M4A1s are just way too common to care about.

Wellll. If they increase the chance of knocking a zed down with a melee weapon or at least increase the damage of the lesser powered melees, and maybe make it so your bloody hits interrupt the other person / zed's bloody hits, I'll be happy.

It isn't Self Defense because they haven't engaged with you yet. If they start shooting at you or begin threatening your life, then its Self Defense, but if you're just killing them while they're walking down the street or pissing in a bush, it isn't, its simply being extra careful.

Or they're scared of being KoS'd and don't want to risk losing loot, so they kill anyone they see so that they don't have to deal with potential engagements. \(o - o)/

I love rifles that can be used for everything, practically. If the SKS is a rifle that I can use for both long range and close range, I'll be happy. I love guns that I can easily use for multiple situations. Being able to put a scope on a rifle to provide sniper support for friends and being able to pull off that scope so that I can engage those in close range is like, perfect.

I find friendly melee people a lot, but, look at my signature and you'll know it usually doesn't end well if I stick with them for long. xD

Not really. Advanced Self Defense would be moreso... Hiding, watching, and observing anything on sight while concealing yourself so you can not be seen until you can tactically decide whether to KoS or simply avoid.

im sorry but zombie pussy is not appealing to me.

mebbe they were there to deliver the donuts you ordered yesterday :c

I think that's just a placeholder sound. The melees luckily don't hit where your cursor is anymore.

Completely agree. Off topic, this is the same problem right now with the Dead Linger and other survival games. You hit something with a melee weapon, and they can hit you. Its unrealistic when your attack doesn't, you know, interrupt theirs. It feels really cheap.

Here is my plan. The next time I see another player in game, I am not going to say anything to them. Instead, I am going to play the Godfather theme, hopefully with my sights on them so that I can make sure they're not coming for me. Then, I watch their reactions. And I watch closely. And then I make them an offer they can't refuse. =w=

I've knocked zombies down before, the chances of doing so are just too low. They need to increase it, and also increase the damage of the underpowered melees, as well. Plus, adding a stun effect when the zombie is hit or something of that sort should be easy, as it would simply limit the zed from attacking.

How do you know you were shot? May have been some guy with an axe or something..