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FFS it's a fucking word and it's pronounced ee-pok ep·och (pk, pk) n.1. a. A particular period of history, especially one considered remarkable or noteworthy.b. A notable event that marks the beginning of such a period. See Synonyms at period.2. A unit of geologic time that is a division of a period.3. Astronomy An instant in time that is arbitrarily selected as a point of reference.

We've dispelled this canard before - it is not a sandbox game. It has a set of finite rules that allow you to do a few things. Mincecraft is a sandbox game, DayZ is an open game at best. Onto the blood bags - I prefer games that make sense. I can suspend my level of disbelief for certain things but if they modded in the ability to curve bullets say, I would probably drop dayz as it would have gone too far. Now blood bagging is easy to do on yourself and you can do it to yourself if you can do it to someone else. When you can't BB yourself, it makes my brain say "that's stupid" just like it says "that's stupid" when I blood bag someone else in 30 seconds. When my brain says things are too stupid too many times, that's when I depart from it (or a movie, book, etc). Yes it wasn't in the game to begin with - big deal. It was in real life to begin with and I thought that Arma was aspiring to be RL - dayz is aspiring to be authentic - not being able to self bb is not authentic. The whole BB process should take longer as well, like I've already said and longer still if you self BB. It's the equivalent of needing 2 people to drive a car, or 2 people to light a fire - neither of which make sense but according to your argument, it needs to be difficult. Perhaps we could give you some maths puzzle to solve whilst you self bb?

People that play alone are at a disadvantage all the time - that's true for all pvp games. Further limiting a player for no reason is not logical. Lone player therefore no self bagging - where is the logic in that?

A main rotor from a crash site? lol

You can build bases. They will look like bases or maybe houses

I'd prefer no mods and BIS retain and continuing development of the game adding in things. That being said, was this a conversation that was being had on Last of days or whatever it's called, how about Nether - metal gear so9lid, did that have to be modded to so everyone could play it or, did people do what they've done with every game that's ever came out, played it on its merits. People on these forums sound so self entitled like they should get a say in the way the game is made. Perhaps we should rin up J K Rowling and tell her how the community want her next novel to pan out ;)

Because?

LOL what? Makes it arcadey? Should punish lone wolves? Realistically in a real zombie apocalypse you could bloodbag yourself - in real life you can do it. However only in a fantasy will bloodbagging a) take 30 seconds and b) make you completely healthy again. Your arguments are pretty crap and ill thought out tbh and just to show you how stupid it is not to be able to self blood bag (where it would be a 5 minute process) - why can we make campfires by ourselves? Surely we should need someone to help do that so we can cook all that meat that will get out blood back to normal.

Yeah don't you have to hit closer now as well?

I went into the barracks the other day and they were full of makarovs!!! However, looking around, I could only find a single bullet. Then I heard a chopper coming.

Nice, thanks :)

Yep - servers that do this OR don't do anything about hackers you leave behind. That way, all the morons will stay in the ones where the dicks play and hopefully you'll be left with servers that have reasonable people on them.

Cars are a waste of time in vanilla and dayzero. Epoch you need them to move shit around but then when I found out your bases could be destroyed, it put me off wanting to even bother, plus thee massive kos and people making bases in the areas where all the industrial shit is - on a 50 player server is highly frustrating and frankly, just not worth it.

Make them disappear! Maybe after 15 mins - we shouldn't be able to run back to our bodies, should we?

In the interest of RP and integrity, I'll run to a tree still.

I killed someone with a fishing pole. Little git was shooting at me with an enfield and missing, then i got hit by a zed and was bleeding and running around him asking why he's shooting at me. He gets hit and his bleeding and runs off to bandage saying he'll bandage me, telling me to stay away from him. So guess what I did whilst he was bandaging.... It took a few hits, then the zeds showed up, he's on unconscious but they're hitting him. He wakes up, I'm laying 2 meters in front of him behind a tree and he starts trying to shoot me. All I can do is laugh my ass off over the mic at him as the zombies pull out his guts. One of the funniest times I ever had on DayZ,

There's nothing wrong with self bloodbagging - just make it a 5 minute process. Jeez guys, if you can bloodbag someone else, you can bloodbag yourself. If you make the self bloodbagging a long process, there's a risk in doing it and it doesn't let someone in combat heal themselves quickly. Bloodbagging someone else should take a minute at least too. Saying all that though, why have the mechanic there at all? you don't heal people with bloodbags, perhaps the healing process should be a much slower...err, process?

The zip sound extends about 6 feet, you'd have to practically be standing on someone to hear it.

Yep me too - sidearm is for zeds so an sd please. After that it's the G17.

Not quite - can you back up your claim that without organised society there can be no morality? You do know apes have morals, right?

I got so far and since everything you said was wrong, what was the point in continuing to an obviously flawed and biased conclusion. Would I need to open a book on creationism and read the whole thing or would the first chapter be enough for me to say their argument is bollocks? If you start off with incorrect data there really is no point in wasting my time any further.

Unlikely. We can all understand what is suffering and what can be done to improve things. As social animals we've evolved to cooperate and we're able to empathise with each other so morality is a product of those things put into words.

You start with Sam Harris, where he takes the worst position of suffering for someone and then goes upwards from there. By using this method, you can come to terms that make sense.

I'm not making any claims, dipshit. I'm saying yours are bogus, especially when you use words like "proves" which you have failed to do so. Your thread is based on your biased scientifically observed interactions of players in a game and then talking about rl. I used a film to make a blanket statement about human nature did I? I already explained this to you in the last post, do I really need to explain it again. Nevermind, everyone else but you got it. Now I'm starting with the conclusion???? WTF?? lmao seriously, just stop right there. We already know you have zero respect for truth and the scientific method but when you try to use my argument against me, you just make yourself look silly. Now remember I said that being alone will eventually drive you mad, as exemplified by that movie, which was countering your completely bullshit claim that if only 2 people lived in the entire planet, there's nothing to stop them from killing each other. Here, have a fucking paper on isolation from human beings... http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1898 Of course, being scientific, you decided to use the highly likely and probable scenario of only 2 people being alive on the entire planet. Let's look at what you said that I said that I didn't actually say "You used a film to make a blanket statement about human nature" - wrong - you can't even get what I say correct so good job convincing anyone that you have an argument. Let's try this again, I actually said that human beings don't do well being isolated (because we're social animals). If you would care to counter that claim and the paper I think science weekly might publish you. That was my claim, not that if you watch a fucking film with Tom Hanks in it you wouldn't cope in a zombie survival game LOLOLOL And I contradicted myself? lmao Of this I am not surprised at all.

Yes this I think has some merit, more struggle means there's a chance people would cooperate more but... without conflict in a game there's no fun. AI only go so far and AI don't make your adrenaline rush - only another player does that and that on it's own can be addicting. I would guess it's the same argument "why do people cheat", "why do people KOS" - I can actually understand KOS mentality, but not cheating. If dayz right now had no pvp, I wouldn't play it at all. I don't generally KOS - to me shooting a guy climbing up a ladder as a fresh spawn isn't rewarding at all. I did it the other day at Bolota. I didn't have to kill him but having been killed a few times by KOS over the space of an hour, I let my frustration get the better of me and thought "fuck it" I however am not the issue. My KOS stats are trivial. On the whole I let people go passed me, especially fresh spawns. Only difference is at NWAF - maybe stary - some places are just too dangerous and you go there knowing you'll be KOS'd so it's fair game in my book. Killing that guy on the ladder was pointless. Even if he was a complete KOS dick I wouldn't know it and what difference would it make anyway. Personally, I want a firefight. Shooting a guy in the back over getting into a good gun battle there's no comparison